70s Fantasy Draft - Jayvin v Cling Bak

Who will win based on players in their prime, team tactics, balance & bench strength?


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Jayvin

Tactics/Playstyle:

Rock of a defence, beginning with Francesco Toldo - near unbeatable at his Euro 2000 peak - protected by Juve's legendary fullback pair of Pessotto and Torricelli and a fearsome central pairing of two players with sublime technique in de Boer and Ayala. My defence is equally comfortable adopting a no-nonsense approach or playing their way out of trouble.

Solid midfield base of Jeremies and Vieira, with the versatile Scholl as the attacking midfielder. Jeremies will operate as my main destroyer, allowing Vieira more license to bomb forward alongside Scholl. In tougher games Vieira can be more positionally disciplined, staying back and helping Jeremies. Which leaves Scholl to play with a free role where he can drift around and cause havoc.

Variety on the wings, with Giuly providing the trickery and dribbling and Gonzalez the more direct approach - surging forward with pace and putting his crossing ability to good affect.

Up top Miroslav Klose will lead the line, using his renowned heading ability to smash home crosses from Gonzalez, as well as holding up the ball and creating space for Scholl and Giuly to exploit.

Player Profiles:

Francesco Toldo:

Part of a generation of outstanding Italian goalkeepers including Pagliuca, Buffon and Peruzzi; Toldo was the best of the lot circa 2000. He performed brilliantly all season,winning the Serie A Goalkeeper of the Year award and capping it off by producing a series of outstanding displays for Italy as the Azzuri reached the final of Euro 2000.
As the longtime Goalkeeper for Fiorentina and Inter, Toldo won 5 Coppa Italia's and 5 Serie A titles, as well as the Champions League in 2010 (although he was only on the bench by this time).

Moreno Torricelli:

Juventus legend and part of the best defence in the world in the mid to late 90's. A player much loved by the fans for his guts and determination, Torricelli was able to play all accross the backline, but favoured right-back. Along with Pessotto, he appeared in 2 Champions League finals, winning in 1996. He also won Serie A 3 times, the Coppa Italia twice and the UEFA Cup.

Roberto Ayala:

One of the best defenders in Argentine history, the silky smooth Roberto Ayala played in 3 World Cups, winning 115 caps (63 as captain). He spent his best years at Valencia, where he helped them to reached the 2001 Champions League final and win the La Liga title on two occassions, as well as the 2004 UEFA Cup. An intelligent reader of the game, Ayala was cool, calm and collected regardless of the situation.

Frank de Boer:

A product of the famed Ajax youth academy, former Netherlands captain Frank de Boer was one of the best defenders of his generation. An influential, assured defender with exemplary distribution. de Boer possessed one of the finest left feet in football and was capable of pin-point passing up the flanks from deep inside his own half. He won 112 caps for the Netherlands, appeared in World Cup and European Championship semi-finals, was a European Champion with Ajax and won league titles in Holland and Spain.

Gianluca Pessotto:

Another legendary Juve fullback and versatile player, Pessotto could play either side (as well as in midfield) but favoured the left.
He was part of the Juve team that reached 3 consecutive Champions League finals (though he didn't feature in 1997) and his trophy haul includes 4 Serie A titles, 1 Coppa Italia and the Champions League. He was also a beaten finalist in the 2000 European Championships.

Patrick Vieira:

Legendary Arsenal midfielder, captain of the Invincibles team and French World Cup and European Championship winner. 107 caps for France, appearences in 2 World Cup finals, 4 FA Cup medals, title wins in Italy and England. There's not much more that needs to be said about this man.

Jens Jeremies:

Solid and dependable tough tackling German midfielder, won the Champions League with Bayern Munich as one of their most important players, along with 6 Bundesliga titles. Jeremies was also a member of the German team which reached the 2002 World Cup final, also representing the national team in the 1998 World Cup and the 2000 and 2004 European Championships.

Mehmet Scholl:

One of the most decorated players in German football history and a supremely gifted attacking midfielder, Scholl possessed pace, mesmeric dribbling skills and an eye for goal; as well as being handy at set pieces. He was a key part of Germany's Euro 96 winning team and an integral player at Bayern Munich; where he won 8 Bundesliga titles, the Champions League and the UEFA Cup.

Ludovic Giuly:

Captain of the Monaco team that made it to the final of the Champions League in 2004 and winner of 2 La Liga titles and the CL with Barcelona. Able to play as a wide midfielder or as a second striker, Giuly possessed great pace, dribbling skills and an eye for goal; scoring 47 goals in 184 appearences for Monaco and 19 in 85 for Barcelona.

Kily Gonzalez:

Former Valencia and Inter winger who won over 50 caps for Argentina and appeared in two consecutive Champions League finals. Gonzalez was an expert crosser of the ball and a player gifted with explosive pace, a stinging shot and a tireless work rate.

Miroslav Klose:

The second highest goalscorer in World Cup finals history and a born finisher. Big, strong with a good touch, great leap and fantastic heading ability; all 5 of his WC 2002 goals were scored with his head. Klose has maintained a ratio of nearly 1 goal in every 2 games during his career, as well as smashing home 63 goals in 113 games for Germany, for whom he appeared in World Cup and European Championship finals.

Substitute:

Alen Boksic:

Technically gifted forward in the Dennis Bergkamp mould, able to play up front or as a second striker. Pacy, strong and a good finisher, Boksic was a part of Croatia's golden generation and Serie A winner with Juventus. He also finished as top scorer in France with Marseille, where he won the league and Champions League, earning him 4th place in the Ballon d'Or in 1993.
Gary Pallister said of Boksic, "He was so difficult to mark. I knew then what he could do and all the United players were speaking about him after the match [Juve 1 - 0 Utd, 1997]"


Cling Bak



SUB: F.Morientes

Some light reading

Edwin Van der Sar
820 Career appearances
130 International caps
8 League titles
2 Champions Leagues
1 UEFA Cup
Best European Goalkeeper (2): 1995, 2009
PFA Premier League Team of the Year (3): 2006–07, 2008–09, 2010–11
UEFA Euro 2008 Team of the Tournament
UEFA Club Goalkeeper of the Year (1): 2009

Gary Kelly
531 Leeds United appearances (11 PL sesons)
51 International caps
PFA Team Of The Year: 1993-94, 1999-00

Ricardo Carvalho
467 Career appearances
75 International caps
6 League titles
5 Premier Cups (FA/Copa Del/Portugese)
1 Champions League
1 UEFA Cup
Portuguese League Footballer of the Year: 2002–03
UEFA Club Best Defender of the Year: 2003–04
UEFA Team of the Year: 2003–04
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 2004
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 2006
Chelsea Players' Player of the Year: 2007–08

Martin Laursen
UEFA Champions League: 2002-03
Serie A: 2003-04
53 International caps
219 Career league appearances

Joan Capdevila
Over 300 La Liga appearances
60 International caps
FIFA World Cup: 2010
UEFA European Football Championship: 2008
Started both WC & EC finals

Edmilson
French League: 2001–02, 2002–03, 2003–04
La Liga: 2004–05, 2005–06
UEFA Champions League: 2005–06
FIFA World Cup: 2002
Started both CL and WC finals

Ze Roberto
84 caps for Brazil
Over 100 league apps for Bayern Munich & Bayer Leverkusen
Fußball-Bundesliga: 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008
La Liga: 1997

Juan Roman Riquelme
Career league appearances: 377, League goals: 92
15 league goals, 2004/05
12 league goals, 2005/06
Argentine Footballer of the Year: 2000, 2001, 2008
South American Footballer of the Year: 2001
La Liga: Don Balón Award (Foreign Player of the Year) 2004–05
FIFA Confederations Cup: Silver Ball 2005
Copa Libertadores: Most Valuable Player 2007

Steve McManaman
Career apps: 579, Goals: 80
142 assists for Liverpool in 364 appearances
PFA Team of the Year: 1995, 1996, 1997 and 1998
Two time Champions League winner, Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2000

Marc Overmars
Career apps: 398, Goals: 78
Netherlands caps: 78, Goals: 17
Four league titles, one Champions League

Thierry Henry
Career apps: 694, Goals: 321, Assists: 166
PFA Team of the Year (6): 2000-01, 2001-02, 2002-03, 2003-04, 2004-05, 2005-06
Premier League Golden Boot (4): 2001–02, 2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06.
UEFA Team of the Year (5): 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006
All time France top goalscorer

F.Morientes
573 Career appearances, 204 goals
47 Spain caps, 27 goals
3 League titles
3 Champions Leagues (and final appearances)
UEFA Forward of the Year: 2004
UEFA Champions League: Top Scorer 2004
 

antohan

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This one is very difficult to call. Jayvin's back 5 is somewhat better, Cling Bak's front four are significantly better, but, again, Jayvin's two DMs are significantly better than Cling's.

Nothing in the tactics, so it's about belief in the better quality in attack or defence.

Decisions, decisions...

One thing is clear, the two that come out of this group will be the teams to beat, phenomenal midfielders, sturdy defences, decent wide players and great forwards abound.
 

antohan

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This is lagging and needs a bump.

I've gone for the rock solid 7 and Klose being in World Cup mood.

A bit harsh on Cling but I just don't rate that DM combo and Riquelme is not going to help at all.
 

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This one is very difficult to call. Jayvin's back 5 is somewhat better, Cling Bak's front four are significantly better, but, again, Jayvin's two DMs are significantly better than Cling's.
I'd agree with that. Riquelme is vital to Cling Bak's side and he'd have a very tough time of it in this game.
 

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Not too sure about what Ze Roberto and Edmilson are doing. Are they the two central midfielders of the side?
 

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Jayvin has the better of Cling Bak here. To be honest he is my tip for the competition as his side is pretty special.

He has one of the best back 5's in the game along with Viera in his pomp. That is going to take some beating. Not a fan of Gonzales and Guly but they do a job out wide and with Klose in the target man role you are destined for goals. Obviously he needs a better creative source than Scholl and I am sure thats what he will do in the later rounds.

Cling Bak has a good enough side but I just don't rate his back 5 as in the same league. I am not a fan of Laursen, Kelly or Edmilson. I think de Boer, the Juve full backs and Viera are alot stronger, and thats where the game is won.
 

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