simonhch
Horrible boss
Pretty much an impossible question to answer without knowing the person.
I looked at my list again and realised there's not a single forward there - are there any strikers among top managers who used to be great players? Can't think of one.Gundogan, Odegaard, Van Dijk, Di Lorenzo, Busquets, Raul Albiol, Koulibaly, Lewis Dunk, Seamus Coleman
erm... cruyff?I looked at my list again and realised there's not a single forward there - are there any strikers among top managers who used to be great players? Can't think of one.
Pep, Diego Simeone, Arteta, Conte, Ancelotti, Deschamps, Xabi Alonso - all of them were midfielders and in fact all rather defensively minded. Zidane is the most offensive one I can come up with.
InzaghiI looked at my list again and realised there's not a single forward there - are there any strikers among top managers who used to be great players? Can't think of one.
Pep, Diego Simeone, Arteta, Conte, Ancelotti, Deschamps, Xabi Alonso - all of them were midfielders and in fact all rather defensively minded. Zidane is the most offensive one I can come up with.
I wouldn't say he is dumb but his emotional intelligence isn't great.Matthäus is dumb as a rock. That’s not ideal for a manager.
Of course, but I was thinking active managers, last time Cruyff managed was decades agoerm... cruyff?
Good shout, forgot about himInzaghi
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Brian Clough if you go by goal tally, can't really speak about the level he did it atI looked at my list again and realised there's not a single forward there - are there any strikers among top managers who used to be great players? Can't think of one.
Pep, Diego Simeone, Arteta, Conte, Ancelotti, Deschamps, Xabi Alonso - all of them were midfielders and in fact all rather defensively minded. Zidane is the most offensive one I can come up with.
Yep. Nothing about the way a player plays football can indicate whether they'd make a good manager. You need a very wide variety of skillsPretty much an impossible question to answer without knowing the person.
Thus most people taking the pissPretty much an impossible question to answer without knowing the person.
Speaking of Xabi, Xhaka is already working on his coaching licence. Earlier he said that he is a huge fan of the football Xabi envisions and apparently decided to play under him because of. Since he's already Xabi's extended arm on the pitch, he's one to keep an eye onXabi Alonso's success at Bayer could have been foretold in the way he read the game as an active player. Same with Zidane.
Which active footballers do you reckon will go on to become the best managers down the line?
This is just plain wrong, Lampard had a very good education and is quite obviously an intelligent person, Neville is quite obviously not dumb alsoArteta, Xabi Alonso and Xavi. Maybe even Carrick.
Rooney, Neville, Gerrard, Lampard, Shearer etc etc
spot the patterns. One group smart one group dumb.
Playing and thinking is one thing.So is Scholes, but from watching them play, their 'football intelligence' was off the charts. That's part of why I think it's very hard to guess who will make a good manager from their playing careers.
Could definitely see Ramos doing management and being decent. Think Busquets could be good too.Sergio Ramos, Troy Deeney
I think he went further and tried to apply for the Serbian FA presidencyHarry Kane. He has impressed me with his steady improvement over the years. Still don't think he's ever the biggest talent on any pitch but more often than not he is the best player. I think that's something he can pass on and is a great skill for managers to have.
Did Vidic ever give it a try?
Bayern's CEO Rummenigge ralked about Alonso being a potential future Bayern manager while Alonso was a player for them. There has quite clearly been that expectation from top level football people. I don't recall such statements about Scholes or Pirlo, but I could have easily missed those of there were any.No it couldn't. Otherwise you'd have to explain why Scholes and Pirlo are crap managers.
Maybe you're a bit xenophobic, because i don't see what makes Arteta Xavi or Alonso smarter than Neville and Lampard other than them being Spanish?Arteta, Xabi Alonso and Xavi. Maybe even Carrick.
Rooney, Neville, Gerrard, Lampard, Shearer etc etc
spot the patterns. One group smart one group dumb.
Have you heard Neville or Lampard talk?Maybe you're a bit xenophobic, because i don't see what makes Arteta Xavi or Alonso smarter than Neville and Lampard other than them being Spanish?
Yes and not once have i thought they are any less intelligent than the examples you named...Have you heard Neville or Lampard talk?
Seriously though it is pretty clear that a certain type of midfielder tends to better managerial ability. They understand the game on a far deeper level than your Rooneys Lampards Oles and Gerrards. Guardiola of course the best example of all.
Scholes is the one caveat but his managerial ability is hampered by his lack of personality and people skills.
Only deep lying playmakers seem to make good managers out of all the high profile ex-footballers who have tried in the last 10-15 years.So basically only deep lying playmakers make good managers? Nothing to do with the fact that all but one of your example came through the La Masia education system?
Now you say it in terms of top footballers i tried to think about any who weren't deep lying playmakers or Dms, who are promising managers in the guise of Arteta or Alonso, and its hard to think of one....Only deep lying playmakers seem to make good managers out of all the high profile ex-footballers who have tried in the last 10-15 years.
Dont think Xabi went to La Masia either. And Arteta got kicked out.
SAF was a striker and Klopp was a defender so obviously this is only relevant for top footballers not mediocre or rubbish ones.