Wolves are scoreless in three premier league games and it’s not like he’s around Burnley or Newcastle level talent. Jimenez, Trincao and Neves etc are capable.
Adama Traore
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Why don't people ever take into account he plays for wolves? You don't think having a player that draws soo many others to him wouldn't help Bruno, pogba etc with space?
3 games is waaay too small a sample to draw any conclusions. For what is worth wolves put up 4.3 xG, the 7th best number in the league. Though Adama himself leading the way with 1.2 xG is definitely not ideal
His final ball is definitely terrible though. He can play a 5 yard pass but his crosses are head down, hit and hope jobs. He definitely could be a game breaking full back or wing back potentially but he'd be a really expensive experiment.
I've grown wary of these kind of specialist players that are incredible at one thing. Especially when every other aspect of their game is so, so basic and limited.
I dont get people being so dismissive of wolves either. Especially when talking over a 3 year time frame. They weren't far off the champions league in 2 of them seasons and were comfortably midtable despite selling Jota and losing Jiminez last year. They're really not a bad team. They're boring and defensive so trying to judge how their players would work at Real Madrid is hard work but not a bad team.
His one skill is the most valuable there is for attacking players, aside from goalscorers, and with a small window of space he's the best dribbler we've ever seen. The man is right up there with Messi as a dribbler/ball carrier
Contract runs out in 2023 afaik, so next season is the right time to pounce
Wolves aren't a bad team at all, but last season their attack was terrible. In the previous two seasons, Adama put up decent underlying numbers per 90 while being a sub(8 starts and less than 1000 minutes played in the PL), followed by very solid numbers as a starter in 19/20. He's not a forward though. When teams such as liverpool were interested, they liked him for his potential as a midfielder, which is what he is basically. The things he does at a high level are pretty much the same things Toni Kroos does - just in a completely different manner
Teams like Liverpool were never properly interested. Like I said, it’s the Jota’s that end up at the top level, not Adama.
Obviously not. Too much of a gamble as a CM, they have TAA as wingback and they need forwards with goals
Genuinely prefer Antonio Valencia at the peak of his powers. He actually had final ball as well, even at Wigan and didn't need baby oil.
Traore's career numbers are embarrassingly low for a player with this kind of hype.
Traore's career numbers are embarrassingly low for a player with this kind of hype.
Yet he plays game of football in the best league in the world. Just because he has different strengths and crossing/finishing isn't his best trait doesn't mean he's not footballer, ffs.
His dribbling is amazing, great first touch, physicality is big part of football, you have to know how to use it too. Evra was a poor crosser of the ball and made a superb fullback, thanks to his dribbling and darting into the box, not every fullback has to play the game like Kieran Trippier. Think he could learn how to defend if anyone was interested and could convince him to do so same way as Valencia, but yeah the best position now for him would easily be as a WB.
When he’d be playing against the low block, he’d be next to useless. That’s where we struggle.
He'd thrive in a counter attacking team. But I cant see him doing much against teams that park the bus because his final ball isnt great and he beats his markers using pace and strength, not actual dribling skills. Give him the ball but not the space and he will struggle.
Holy shit.. Can’t believe some people wanted him here
He is a fun player to watch, but his end product is on level with James at the best 
He isn’t good enough for us. Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho are on a much higher level.
He is a fun player to watch, but his end product is on level with James at the best He isn’t good enough for us. Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho are on a much higher level.
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He's awful. Guess some people are blindedby the fact he is a muscular dude that looks impressive. He's fecking cack.
Not really, we have seen it countless time, he would beat people for fun then proceeded to run into dead ends or mess up that final cross/pass/shot. You can just completely ignore him and bank on that feck up to happen. The worst thing you can do is to compromise your shape and free up other attackers. We looked like headless chickens until we figured that out last game.
I said he isn’t a good footballer, he’s obviously a footballer as he’s playing in the PL. Everything is relative, and there’s more in the make up of a baller than dribbling ability. Ability to pick a pass, for instance, which he’s incapable of doing if it’s more than 5 yards.
Evra was precisely the example I was thinking of when referring to his ball carrying ability. The thing is the guy could defend at his peak and had the stamina to get up and down the pitch every week, the moment he lost that he was still an important member of our team back then because we were cack at carrying the ball through midfield but became a liability at the back all the same. Traore struggles to do the same for more than 60 min, now, at his physical peak, so I can’t see how he can be a full fledged fullback. Valencia was mediocre at best with his defensive/positional nous but made up for it with his energy/physique.
All fart, no shit.
I’m not even convinced he’s good enough to start regularly for Wolves. If Spurs are stupid enough to go back in with anything above £40 million then Wolves would be fools not to accept.
I’m not even convinced he’s good enough to start regularly for Wolves. If Spurs are stupid enough to go back in with anything above £40 million then Wolves would be fools not to accept.
Let's start a petition! I'm having visions of the oil guy being absent and Ole doing it in his place. Maybe Ronaldo joins in as well?
You can't take space away on the wings without sacrificing the middle though. His final ball may not be great but once he's beaten his man and got behind the defence, he doesn't need a great final ball to be effective, just volume
Why do you like thatLet's start a petition! I'm having visions of the oil guy being absent and Ole doing it in his place. Maybe Ronaldo joins in as well?
(specifically referring to Ole btw. Neither he nor cristiano are my cup of tea but i get it )Volume is there. He averages 6 crosses a game second only to TAA.You can't take space away on the wings without sacrificing the middle though. His final ball may not be great but once he's beaten his man and got behind the defence, he doesn't need a great final ball to be effective, just volume
Why do you like that
14 assists and 20 big chances created in about 140 PL games with an average of 6 crosses per game. That's roughly 1 assist for every 60 crosses or 1 big chance created out of every 40 crosses.
Either Wolves don't have the bodies in the box or his final ball is just shite.
Wolves don't have the bodies in the box a lot of the time. They also finish poorly
People actually rate him? He should play Rugby rather than football.
Never got the hype with him
I'd say his final ball is just shite.
You might be right. Hes an interesting player, with the right system he could be good. I think i'd be more inclined to a more rounded, traditional player. Wolves dont pack the box and aren't always great finishers as you say but his final ball being crap is the primary reason for his low numbers.
There's a fair few things to criticise Adama about but his ball control and dribbling ability certainly isn't some of them. He has fantastic close control and dribbling ability, some of the best in the league at both attributes. He's not even close to being just a 'kick and rush' guy. The issue is that the instant he has to release the ball to somebody else (or shoot himself) he's quite poor. I do think his crossing is better than the stats make out, but otherwise his final ball is obviously bad.
I think stamina is a big issue for him due to size and the way he plays, and not one that's easy to fix without tactical changes.
Against United he had 7 dribbles in the first half, 1 in second. Against Spurs, 6 dribbles in the first half, 3 in the second. Against Leicester, 8 dribbles first half, 3 in the second.
If you can deal with him for 45 minutes of football, he's pretty much neutralised, as if he's not running with the ball anymore he basically has no impact on the game whatsoever. I think he'd be much better suited going back to being an impact player off the bench.
Against United he had 7 dribbles in the first half, 1 in second. Against Spurs, 6 dribbles in the first half, 3 in the second. Against Leicester, 8 dribbles first half, 3 in the second.
If you can deal with him for 45 minutes of football, he's pretty much neutralised, as if he's not running with the ball anymore he basically has no impact on the game whatsoever. I think he'd be much better suited going back to being an impact player off the bench.
very fast with the ball but nothing else.
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So it’s everybody’s fault but Adama. He’s just not good enough and his final ball sucks. It’s not that complicated, it’s that simple!
He wouldn't be useless because he can beat anyone on the outside whereas literally none of our players have that ability. Everyone runs inside none go on the outside. So regardless he'd always atleast be able to get a ball in and allow us an overload on the other side of the pitch.
Wolves missed 4 clear cut chances in the match all 4 created by Adama any top 4 club and he would of had at least 2/3 assists. That's the difference
It's a bit of both to be fair. His final ball is poor (except for his crossing which is ok) but it's made to look even worse than it really is because of the real lack of threat that Wolves have.
Ok so Rashford, Sancho, Martial and when we had him James can’t beat a man on the outside. No point discussing anything further as your football knowledge is about the same as my dogs.
Interesting it's always funny when people use insults as a form of reply if they cannot come up with a response. Rashford, Martial and James have all shown they can't beat a man on a regular basis on the right. That is a fact. Players like Valencia could do it consistently and easily that's why he was such a threat for us. Let's see how sancho does but it is a specific skill that many do not have but Adama does. That is also why our right side is such an issue whereas our left side those players can regularly beat their man.
Well yes. 2 assists from 5.4 xA in 20/21 points to his teammates being the problem, very much so. Wolves had a bottom 5 attack last season, with him and Pedro Neto as the only two players who made anything happen in the box...
(His lack of goal threat stands out even against other wolves players though)
Same to be honest. He is tremendous at beating his man or even multiple men on occasion, but all other aspects of his game tend to let him down. I feel he is another Aaron Lennon but with strength instead of being able to cross.
Whilst Rashford is more effective on the left, he has shown multiple times he can beat a man on the right side, as has James.
Martial is a different story, but certainly you cannot levy that accusation at James and Rashford.
Ole has tried to play Rashford there many times there is a reason he has never proceeded with it. Because he isn't a threat from that side he doesnt beat his man with any regularity. James literally has shown to never beat his man one of one that's why we moved him on.
We moved James on because we got Ronaldo, we were going to keep him otherwise.
Rashford played 10 games on the right last season, as I say, he's more effective on the left, but in ten games he got two goals and three assists, that's none too shabby to me.
Sure but I didn't say he can't be effective. I said that he didn't beat his man on the outside and that ability opens up space for others.
I feel you should watch him more when he plays on the right, you might change your mind.