Another 100 Year Storm | Ida makes landfall as Cat 4 storm at Port Fourchon, LA

[ooeat0meoo]

Hurricane Ida closing in on New Orleans

Storm surge predicted to be 15 ft

Yet another example of the USA and it's epic incompetence, on the Weather Channel just now the New Orleans emergency response team saying there's no time to announce a mandatory evacuation. The US government just doesn't plan well for disasters

Ida to make landfall in New Orleans at 6 pm. It's expected to be a 'Strong Cat 3 or 4' according to the Weather Channel

 

[MarylandMUFan]

Yeah, and apparently the storm surge is supposed to be bad which may be where the real damage comes from. Yet again, our short sighted government planning will end up killing people but hey, corporate profits are up so no point in changing anything.

 

[Organic Potatoes]

What makes it a 100 year storm?

 

[rimaldo]

What makes it a 100 year storm?

storms of that scale only happen every 100 years.

 

[Gehrman]

storms of that scale only happen every 100 years.

What if they happen twice in 100 years?

 

[nimic]

What if they happen twice in 100 years?

Then you're experiencing acute climate change.

 

[Organic Potatoes]

storms of that scale only happen every 100 years.

But these happen every year, and despite the higher wind speeds it is smaller than Katrina. So I didn’t understand why the term was being applied here.

 

[Port Vale Devil]

But these happen every year, and despite the higher wind speeds it is smaller than Katrina. So I didn’t understand why the term was being applied here.

Clickbait

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

But these happen every year, and despite the higher wind speeds it is smaller than Katrina. So I didn’t understand why the term was being applied here.

That’s the joke.

 

[Raoul]

Hurricane Ida closing in on New Orleans

Storm surge predicted to be 15 ft

Yet another example of the USA and it's epic incompetence, on the Weather Channel just now the New Orleans emergency response team saying there's no time to announce a mandatory evacuation. The US government just doesn't plan well for disasters

Ida to make landfall in New Orleans at 6 pm. It's expected to be a 'Strong Cat 3 or 4' according to the Weather Channel

I was stuck in Miami Beach for Andrew in 92. It was only one of three that's ever hit land at Cat 5. Incredibly scary.

 

[Cheimoon]

But these happen every year, and despite the higher wind speeds it is smaller than Katrina. So I didn’t understand why the term was being applied here.

Models need changing. A storm this size used to be occur only about once every 100 years on average in the relevant region, but due to climate change, they are now becoming more common. Proper reporting would provide that context and explain the development, but well...

 

[Organic Potatoes]

Models need changing. A storm this size used to be occur only about once every 100 years on average in the relevant region, but due to climate change, they are now becoming more common. Proper reporting would provide that context and explain the development, but well...

When was that? There have been dozens of cat-5’s in this region. This is a cat-2 at the moment and will make landfall as a cat-4.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

It was surreal with Harvey in Houston, there were waves and whitecaps with the floods on the freeways and people were reporting Gators outside suburban homes for months afterwards.

 

[Jippy]

I was stuck in Miami Beach for Andrew in 92. It was only one of three that's ever hit land at Cat 5. Incredibly scary.

What happened? Did you find a shelter or just bunker down wherever you were staying and hope for the best?

 

[Raoul]

What happened? Did you find a shelter or just bunker down wherever you were staying and hope for the best?

I managed an adult video shop in South Beach at the time. The owner (who was conveniently in NY at the time) told me to board up the windows and protect the shop from looters in case they showed up the day after, which is precisely what I did.

Early evening, the winds were blowing fairly hard outside and I walked around for a bit to soak it all in until the winds picked up. Stayed in the shop until midnight when the power suddenly went out and you could hear (among other things) traffic lights being blown off their lines and swept away by the winds, along with other loose objects. The force of the winds were making crackling sounds on shop's glass windows and I was expecting them to explode at any moment - thankfully they didn't.

Eventually I fell asleep in an office chair. The next morning the storm had passed and the sky was a peculiar purplish color. The power was out through out all of Miami Beach and the causeways that connect South Beach with Miami were flooded, rendering it impossible to travel back and forth. There was minor looting outside but not at my place. A couple of days later once the power was back on, I saw on the news that Homestead (a city south of Miami) looked like an atomic bomb had gone off. An unforgettable experience.

 

[George Owen]

I managed an adult video shop in South Beach at the time. The owner (who was conveniently in NY at the time) told me to board up the windows and protect the shop from looters in case they showed up the day after, which is precisely what I did.

Early evening, the winds were blowing fairly hard outside and I walked around for a bit to soak it all in until the winds picked up. Stayed in the shop until midnight when the power suddenly went out and you could hear (among other things) traffic lights being blown off their lines and swept away by the winds, along with other loose objects. The force of the winds were making crackling sounds on shop's glass windows and I was expecting them to explode at any moment - thankfully they didn't.

Eventually I fell asleep in an office chair. The next morning the storm had passed and the sky was a peculiar purplish color. The power was out through out all of Miami Beach and the causeways that connect South Beach with Miami were flooded, rendering it impossible to travel back and forth. There was minor looting outside but not at my place. A couple of days later once the power was back on, I saw on the news that Homestead (a city south of Miami) looked like an atomic bomb had gone off. An unforgettable experience.

Damn. You probably got a raise after that, right?

Also, did you have any weapons to fight off the possible looters?

 

[Raoul]

Damn. You probably got a raise after that, right?

Also, did you have any weapons to fight off the possible looters?

No weapons, just hundreds of VHS porn videos to soothe their anxieties. Interestingly, most of the looting happened in convenience stores and a near by GNC supplement shop.

 

[Port Vale Devil]

Damn. You probably got a raise after that, right?

Also, did you have any weapons to fight off the possible looters?

Hatchet Harry tooled up

 

[George Owen]

No weapons, just hundreds of VHS porn videos to soothe their anxieties. Interestingly, most of the looting happened in convenience stores and a near by GNC supplement shop.

Hatchet Harry tooled up

 

[Jippy]

I managed an adult video shop in South Beach at the time. The owner (who was conveniently in NY at the time) told me to board up the windows and protect the shop from looters in case they showed up the day after, which is precisely what I did.

Early evening, the winds were blowing fairly hard outside and I walked around for a bit to soak it all in until the winds picked up. Stayed in the shop until midnight when the power suddenly went out and you could hear (among other things) traffic lights being blown off their lines and swept away by the winds, along with other loose objects. The force of the winds were making crackling sounds on shop's glass windows and I was expecting them to explode at any moment - thankfully they didn't.

Eventually I fell asleep in an office chair. The next morning the storm had passed and the sky was a peculiar purplish color. The power was out through out all of Miami Beach and the causeways that connect South Beach with Miami were flooded, rendering it impossible to travel back and forth. There was minor looting outside but not at my place. A couple of days later once the power was back on, I saw on the news that Homestead (a city south of Miami) looked like an atomic bomb had gone off. An unforgettable experience.

I wasn't expecting that first detail, it feels like you've had a varied career!

Sounds like it could've been a lot worse, although the fear that some piece of debris could come hurtling through the window at any point would be horrible. The noise must be pretty crazy too.

I went to Miami five years ago and stayed on the beach peninsula bit. There'd been a storm a day or two before and the beaches had loads of big palm fronds all over that had blown off the trees.
The whole place must've been a wreck after that tornado though. Those images you see of Homstead or wherever getting destroyed are so alien to us- it's makes the news if a fence gets blown over here.

 

[Raoul]

I wasn't expecting that first detail, it feels like you've had a varied career!

Sounds like it could've been a lot worse, although the fear that some piece of debris could come hurtling through the window at any point would be horrible. The noise must be pretty crazy too.

I went to Miami five years ago and stayed on the beach peninsula bit. There'd been a storm a day or two before and the beaches had loads of big palm fronds all over that had blown off the trees.
The whole place must've been a wreck after that tornado though. Those images you see of Homstead or wherever getting destroyed are so alien to us- it's makes the news if a fence gets blown over here.

After being in one, its hard to not take every hurricane seriously. I was in a Tornado in TX once as well - a bit more intense, but much shorter in duration.

 

[Wibble]

We were on Lizard Island in the late 80's when this one went through.
http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/history/charlie.shtml

Cat 4 that droppped to a 3 as it passed over us and then dropped to a 2 on landfall. If that was a 3/4 I don't want to experience a 5.

We recorded gusts of 200kms per hour before the local weather station was ripped off the building. If the winds had been much higher we would have suffered major roof losses but in the end it was mainly trees down (amazingly none hit buildings or vehicles) and the game fishing boat went on a holiday when the wind ripped it off its mooring.

 

[Charlie Foley]

Yeah, and apparently the storm surge is supposed to be bad which may be where the real damage comes from. Yet again, our short sighted government planning will end up killing people but hey, corporate profits are up so no point in changing anything.

I like this guy. Remind me where in Maryland you live again

 

[ooeat0meoo]

I managed an adult video shop in South Beach at the time. The owner (who was conveniently in NY at the time) told me to board up the windows and protect the shop from looters in case they showed up the day after, which is precisely what I did.

Early evening, the winds were blowing fairly hard outside and I walked around for a bit to soak it all in until the winds picked up. Stayed in the shop until midnight when the power suddenly went out and you could hear (among other things) traffic lights being blown off their lines and swept away by the winds, along with other loose objects. The force of the winds were making crackling sounds on shop's glass windows and I was expecting them to explode at any moment - thankfully they didn't.

Eventually I fell asleep in an office chair. The next morning the storm had passed and the sky was a peculiar purplish color. The power was out through out all of Miami Beach and the causeways that connect South Beach with Miami were flooded, rendering it impossible to travel back and forth. There was minor looting outside but not at my place. A couple of days later once the power was back on, I saw on the news that Homestead (a city south of Miami) looked like an atomic bomb had gone off. An unforgettable experience.

That sounds REAL scary.
Having grown up on the barrier island at the Jersey Shore, I recall a few bad ones. Obviously it was heartbreaking to return to my hometown one week after Hurricane Sandy as a field reporter for my employer in DC. Whole entire neighborhoods were completely wiped off their foundations.

Photo I shot in Ortley Beach, NJ after Sandy

 

[11101]

I still don't get why the richest country in the world keeps building it's houses out of little more than flat pack cardboard and wonders why everything gets destroyed.

 

[Gehrman]

I hadn't really imagined that @Raoul used to manage a pornshop.

 

[Carolina Red]

When was that? There have been dozens of cat-5’s in this region. This is a cat-2 at the moment and will make landfall as a cat-4.

Per the USGS:
The term "100-year flood" is used in an attempt to simplify the definition of a flood that statistically has a 1-percent chance of occurring in any given year. Likewise, the term "100-year storm" is used to define a rainfall event that statistically has this same 1-percent chance of occurring.
https://www.usgs.gov/special-topic/...ce_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects

 

[Carolina Red]

The worst part is that this could be a Katrina 2.0 but with the added variable of Louisiana and Mississippi being huge Covid hotspots right now.

 

[ooeat0meoo]

I still don't get why the richest country in the world keeps building it's houses out of little more than flat pack cardboard and wonders why everything gets destroyed.

See the photo above...

My family has been building homes in this area for 3 generations. 50 years ago the building codes were almost nonexistent. Many of the homes were made for people like teachers, cops, janitors, and the sort as summer vacation homes. By the 1970's the storm codes increased steadily, After hurricane Sandy, the building codes and taxes increased so much, only multi millionaires can afford to live within a mile of the beach. This trend is mostly consistent throughout the US coastline.


Update on the current #Ida hurricane: Ida is 7 MPH short of a CAT 5 storm. This is the strongest storm to hit the US since 1850. The outer bands of the storm have begun to reach New Orleans.

 

[ooeat0meoo]

I hadn't really imagined that @Raoul used to manage a pornshop.

I'm sure he's got some stories. Hey, it's more interesting than a teen that worked at McDonalds

 

[11101]

See the photo above...

My family has been building homes in this area for 3 generations. 50 years ago the building codes were almost nonexistent. Many of the homes were made for people like teachers, cops, janitors, and the sort as summer vacation homes. By the 1970's the storm codes increased steadily, After hurricane Sandy, the building codes and taxes increased so much, only multi millionaires can afford to live within a mile of the beach. This trend is mostly consistent throughout the US coastline.


Update on the current #Ida hurricane: Ida is 7 MPH short of a CAT 5 storm. This is the strongest storm to hit the US since 1850. The outer bands of the storm have begun to reach New Orleans.

So new houses being built to replace the old ones are actually being built properly to withstand the storms?

 

[cyberman]

I hadn't really imagined that @Raoul used to manage a pornshop.

I always suspected it to be fair

 

[ooeat0meoo]

I always suspected it to be fair

 

[Carolina Red]

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[ooeat0meoo]

As anyone that participates in this forum knows by now, President Biden and his team are terrible about getting out ahead of disaster situations. Yesterday, at a press conference, the New Orleans officials said they didn't have the time to announce a mandatory evacuation order.

This might be time to reflect upon how things went down during Hurricane Katrina.
The events at the Super Dome were incredibly tragic, but the one situation of a small town outside of NOLA that prevented people from leaving the freeway by the threat of being shot by cops is something I'll never forget.

Today, Biden is meeting with the families of soldiers killed outside the Kabul airport.
There hasn't been anything on the news about the additional steps being taken by the local, state, and federal levels.

 

[Carolina Red]

Ida is getting stronger, nearing Category 5 as she gets closer to land. For context… Katrina lost strength and made landfall as a Category 3.

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[nimic]

Update on the current #Ida hurricane: Ida is 7 MPH short of a CAT 5 storm. This is the strongest storm to hit the US since 1850. The outer bands of the storm have begun to reach New Orleans.

So much for the "clickbait" comments, huh?

 

[ooeat0meoo]

So new houses being built to replace the old ones are actually being built properly to withstand the storms?

By the 1980's homes at the Jersey Shore had been built to withstand *major storms. 10 years ago (or at about) they created zones which made it mandatory to not only build new homes on 10' - 15' high pilings. Even older homes in the prone areas were forces to raise their homes. Homes that didn't comply got sorta fined through high property taxes.


*Major storms are obviously stronger and more frequent. So, how we defined storms 40 years ago have shifted for the worse

 

[ooeat0meoo]

So much for the "clickbait" comments, huh?

I'm just passing along information to those that don't have cable news.

What do you mean by 'clickbait comments'
I didn't think I had been sensationalizing this

 

[nimic]

I'm just passing along information to those that don't have cable news.

What do you mean by 'clickbait comments'
I didn't think I had been sensationalizing this

I am referring to the people who called the thread title clickbait.