It's not just for more money, by moving on a free you actually choose your destination instead of limiting it to clubs that can afford what your club may demand. Would you extend with your current club knowing that it would prevent you from going where you want, what happens if you extend one year and are in the same situation a year later or sustain an injury at the end of the season?
Are PSG trying to entice players to run out their contracts?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He seemed nailed on for Barca till they went bust
I don’t disagree. I think there are legitimate reasons to move for a free. I did qualify my statement specifically for situations where a player moved for “more money”
But even more money is a good idea, think about it this way. You are making a moral point based on the idea that your future ex-employer should make more money out of your contract even though you fulfilled your duty. Surely you can see how your point which is fairly common is actually very weird from a logical or even moral standpoint because you have done your job and you still think that you should put yourself second and your employer first. It's amazing that football clubs managed to convince people that it made any sense.
They are literally losing Mbappe for free next year, he cost them like 200M. Most of these are old-timers looking for a last payday and experience in Paris, then there are players like Pogba where their present club aren’t matching their ambitions over time. Besides, they aren’t free are they… sign-ons and wages are compensating for the lack of fee.
Nothing wrong with players exercising their right to move. They may eventually find clubs looking to pay them less if they’re losing too much money on their investment though.
No of course not, it's just the line some come out with when they are trapped
I mean they do their dream job, so they either A. shouldn't massively moan.... or B. At this point, just not sign massive long contracts.
But I certainly see no harm in X more or less planning to go to Y FC "If I stay fit I'll agree to come to you".... verbal agreement means nothing anyway, Wijnaldum proved that this summer.
No cap in place isn't the clubs or players faults.... so whatever.
Juventus is also good in capturing players on free.
PSG lost the following players on free:
- Zlatan
- Cavani
- Menez
- Rabiot
- Thiago Silva
- Alex
- Coman
- ...And probably Mbappe next summer
PSG lost the following players on free:
- Zlatan
- Cavani
- Menez
- Rabiot
- Thiago Silva
- Alex
- Coman
- ...And probably Mbappe next summer
Yeah this is a silly thread to be fair. What PSG do any bug club can do. If we offered Messi 1mil a week he could of been here. PSG take players on free with big wages so they put their transfer budget into wage budget.
Sure as you mentioned we signed Cavani/Zlatan off them. Barca got Depay and Aguero this season. This year a lot of players were out of contract it’s not a PSG thing. Juve one time had Khedira, Pirlo and Pogba in CM and all were free.
There's so much back room chatter and posturing that happens between agents, media, and club intermediaries. It's just all part of the game.
When a player is within 2 years of their contract, you're going to have discussions with agents and intermediaries just to get exposure into their position. It's all a learning experience for it to be leveraged at a better time down the road.
Perfect example is United and Ole talking with Haaland during his move away from Austria. Same with speaking with Bellingham. The more you know, the better off you'll be. It's not really enticing players to run down their contract, it's more like understanding what their next move can be like well before it could actually happen.
This happens ALL the time in sports. That is why you would rather have a seat at the table than not.
When a player is within 2 years of their contract, you're going to have discussions with agents and intermediaries just to get exposure into their position. It's all a learning experience for it to be leveraged at a better time down the road.
Perfect example is United and Ole talking with Haaland during his move away from Austria. Same with speaking with Bellingham. The more you know, the better off you'll be. It's not really enticing players to run down their contract, it's more like understanding what their next move can be like well before it could actually happen.
This happens ALL the time in sports. That is why you would rather have a seat at the table than not.
I think your reading too much into this.
Messi = no one expected him leave Barca this year.
Widjnaldum would have gone to Barca if not for their predicament.
Don.. most expected him to go to Juventus
Ramos would have preferred to stay at Real, but real are unsentimental when it comes to letting legends go before they become a liability on the pitch and wage book.
Herrera wanted to stay at United
Getting world class experienced players on free signings is obviously their strategy, but it’s more opportunistic and waiting for a player to be available on a free or in the last 6 months of their contract. It’s not a joint venture with the player where it’s already been agreed from 12 or more months before that the player won’t renew his current and PSG promise to sign him on a free.
Widjnaldum would have gone to Barca if not for their predicament.
Don.. most expected him to go to Juventus
Ramos would have preferred to stay at Real, but real are unsentimental when it comes to letting legends go before they become a liability on the pitch and wage book.
Herrera wanted to stay at United
Getting world class experienced players on free signings is obviously their strategy, but it’s more opportunistic and waiting for a player to be available on a free or in the last 6 months of their contract. It’s not a joint venture with the player where it’s already been agreed from 12 or more months before that the player won’t renew his current and PSG promise to sign him on a free.
Have we had any significant players joining United for free excluding Ibrahimovic and Cavani?
There is no such thing as 'running out' a contract. A contract is a contract, if clubs want one to be longer they must offer a longer one in the first place, a player might want to sign that, or might not, but whatever is agreed and signed, that is what it is.
Like what Wenger said, they are going the American NBA route of signing players. Kudos to them for being savvy and saving shitload on transfer fees.