Eddy_JukeZ
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Honestly, starting to worry that we could flounder even more.
And the Glazers are still there.
And the Glazers are still there.
That does NOT prevent Ratcliffe and Brailsford from finding someone as an interim.The people who have been hired to make the calls aren't starting this summer unfortunately.
There isn't much to judge Ratcliffe on. He's come in, and hired good people in positions that we've lacked. Its the jobs of those people now basically.
Different case. The time for an interim was November or December if we felt it was worth the panic or that we could salvage it. At this point it's pointless. If we play vs Chelsea, Ten Hag has a good record against them. If it's against city, we'll probably lose regardless of manager because it's Pep and City. An interim is only brought in if it's untenable, the squad is against the manager, and you feel like you can realistically salvage the season with somebody else just based on vibes.That does prevent Ratcliffe and Brailsford from finding someone as an interim.
Would we have better chances of ending the season on a high and perhaps win the FA Cup with Ten Hag as the manager? Or would our chances be improved with someone else at the helm for the next 2 months instead? Chelsea used to have Guus Hiddink just for that kind of assignment.
What kind of plan do you want? I don't think any club makes their plans public.No.
Until there is a plan I can't place any confidence in whatever that plan is. PR interview spin amd 'Wembley of the north" eubbish does not constitute a plan.
Him and a big chunk of the squad. I will only be fully confident in INEOS if they make any movie from "The Purge" series look like a cakewalk compared to the number of faces that have to be purged out.The way they handle our failing manager will determine my confidence in them.
That would be penny wise and pound foolish of them, and would make me very pessimistic about the way the club is going to be run. Perhaps now it's too late, but just a few weeks ago the season could've still been salvaged with an interim. The incremental benefit of qualifying for the CL next season would surely outweigh the incremental cost of having to terminate ETH's contract early.He will be fired as soon as we can’t get top 4 mathematically. I reckon United have a clause in the contract that makes it cheaper to sack him if he doesn’t make top 4.
No.
We've had the comments about not wanting to spend big to buy the worlds best players, nothing was done about ETH, so now weve missed out on next years champions league, and now the rumors about Southgate.
It would have been a very brave decision to sack Ten Hag at that point. Certainly after the Villa comeback game.We'll find out. They'll need time to get it right and we have no choice but to have faith.
However, not impressed so far. I think they dropped the ball on not sacking ETH during/after the holiday schedule. I think they should have tried to get an interim in and gone for that CL spot.
This, and if they replace him with Southgate then I give up.The way they handle our failing manager will determine my confidence in them.
Absolutely no guarantee an interim turns this around. Not sure that's a fair thing to levy against new ownership which has been in place since Christmas.That would be penny wise and pound foolish of them, and would make me very pessimistic about the way the club is going to be run. Perhaps now it's too late, but just a few weeks ago the season could've still been salvaged with an interim. The incremental benefit of qualifying for the CL next season would surely outweigh the incremental cost of having to terminate ETH's contract early.
Aye, Boley’s gutsy decision really turned things round at Chelsea, didn’t it?If Boely had the guts to cut a successful Tucher who had recently won a CL.
SJR needs to grow some balls and not wait until all the appointments come in. We are conceding far too many shots and this needs to stop, but we have a stubborn man who has created a stupid team that keeps losing leads in the CL and PL.
I don't think long-term should be conflated with not doing anything and sitting on our laurels before everything is at the optimum condition. CL football next season could have been part of our long term vision. For a club with FFP issues, due to gross negligence and incompetence the last 11 years, extra revenue that we could generate with CL football can help realize that long term vision.It would have been a very brave decision to sack Ten Hag at that point. Certainly after the Villa comeback game.
I'll make a similar point I made on the other thread.
People correctly keep demanding long term strategic planning but most are too impatient. Short term/temporary solutions don't work and cause longer term issues.
People are demanding 90% of the team are sold because they're rubbish and want this sorted immediately..
INEOS needs to design a medium/long term plan and implement/develop a football (alongside a wider organisational) strategy based on that.
Even if that means a crap few months, fine. It's been a mostly crap 11 years. We'll benefit from longer term thinking for once.
I did not realise ETH did all the negotiations.Not really. We're further away than ever after how Ten Hag has spent £400m.
The squad is an absolute mess and it's a long long way back.
Plans are evident by actions, so we'll see what happens going forwards.What kind of plan do you want? I don't think any club makes their plans public.
We're certainly not where we need to be but I think it's a bit of short term memory loss to say we're further away than ever. ETH took over the worst united side ever in the PL era, got CL and won a trophy in his first season. The first trophy in 6 years. He could win a trophy this season as well. Which I think is the first time post Sir Alex we've won trophies 2 years in a row if we manage to upset the odds.Not really. We're further away than ever after how Ten Hag has spent £400m.
The squad is an absolute mess and it's a long long way back.
We aren't going to beat City (probably not even Coventry). The league Cup was just the result of easy draws.We're certainly not where we need to be but I think it's a bit of short term memory loss to say we're further away than ever. ETH took over the worst united side ever in the PL era, got CL and won a trophy in his first season. The first trophy in 6 years. He could win a trophy this season as well. Which I think is the first time post Sir Alex we've won trophies 2 years in a row if we manage to upset the odds.
Things are a long way from being good and if the right manager comes up I'd certainly back a change. But if the options are Potter, southgate and De Zerbi we'd be going from the frying pan and straight into the fire.
If we approach someone like Inzaghi and he's willing to come then I'd back that type of change.