Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!

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They can buy it back though according to a clause they have. That’s their plan it looks like. Use the cash injection to steady the ship and finish the stadium. From the vastly improved revenues, buy back these rights in the short to medium term future.
The buy back is going to be substantially overpriced, either way they're going to suffer from this.
 

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The buy back is going to be substantially overpriced, either way they're going to suffer from this.
Imagine the uproar if the Glazers did something like this to us :lol:

I find it amazing that the overwhelming majority of 'socios' voted in favor of this.
 

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They can buy it back though according to a clause they have. That’s their plan it looks like. Use the cash injection to steady the ship and finish the stadium. From the vastly improved revenues, buy back these rights in the short to medium term future.
Not a chance. They are never going to pay 200m up front to buy it back without going badly in debt again never mind how high it will rise within the next decade alone never mind 25 years. It’s propaganda nonsense. I’ll bet there’s a clause for show but it’ll be almost impossible to implement
 

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Imagine the uproar if the Glazers did something like this to us :lol:

I find it amazing that the overwhelming majority of 'socios' voted in favor of this.
The alternative was a likely bankruptcy.
 

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The buy back is going to be substantially overpriced, either way they're going to suffer from this.
no way. investment firms are the good guys and are only interested in saving barcelona and ensuring they can compete at the highest level possible, damn the costs or lack of dividends.
 

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So Barca have gone down the route of what is effectively a payday loan in order to still be able to splash the cash? Common sense would surely dictate you sell a couple of players, lean on youth and savvy transfers for a couple of seasons and then go again from there?
 

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So Barca have gone down the route of what is effectively a payday loan in order to still be able to splash the cash? Common sense would surely dictate you sell a couple of players, lean on youth and savvy transfers for a couple of seasons and then go again from there?
Given the quality of their academy and a few shrewd investments on players out of contract they'd still likely have CL every year and remain relevant as a club.
 

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Given the quality of their academy and a few shrewd investments on players out of contract they'd still likely have CL every year and remain relevant as a club.
I have a new quality model for Barca to gain revenue. Sell free pics of their academy products for €10M a pop. If you buy one you can just hand it in for anyone of their academy players. This way they surely could finance Lewa.
 

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Given the quality of their academy and a few shrewd investments on players out of contract they'd still likely have CL every year and remain relevant as a club.
Exactly, take the hit now and then restart in better financial shape or bury your head in the sand and keep digging a hole.
 

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Can someone please explain this lever thingy?
What is that even supposed to mean :lol:
 

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no way. investment firms are the good guys and are only interested in saving barcelona and ensuring they can compete at the highest level possible, damn the costs or lack of dividends.
They're screwed. The moment you align yourself to bankers and start whoring yourself out for quick cash injections is the moment you're fecked. Look at what happened to us.

Anyone who thinks they'll get a good price to buy it back is living in dreamland.
 

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They're screwed. The moment you align yourself to bankers and start whoring yourself out for quick cash injections is the moment you're fecked. Look at what happened to us.

Anyone who thinks they'll get a good price to buy it back is living in dreamland.
in that case they’ll just get a wonga loan to cover them until we buy the next superstar.
 

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I'd rather it happened to Madrid, though
They stopped pool from claiming to be the bested greatest superset team in the history of mankind so I give them a pass, for now at least.

Also you just gotta respect the hustle at this point.
 

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I'd rather it happened to both.
Funny this. I used to prefer Barcelona but their sanctimonious ways just rubs me the wrong way these days. Madrid owns who they are, a highly successful, almost evil but certainly pragmatic club who does whatever it takes to win. No moralistic bullshit about them.
 

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Funny this. I used to prefer Barcelona but their sanctimonious ways just rubs me the wrong way these days. Madrid owns who they are, a highly successful, almost evil but certainly pragmatic club who does whatever it takes to win. No moralistic bullshit about them.
Yeah, their utmost shameless way of presenting and conducting themselves and its sheer honesty does kinda make you begrudgingly respect them.
 

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Funny this. I used to prefer Barcelona but their sanctimonious ways just rubs me the wrong way these days. Madrid owns who they are, a highly successful, almost evil but certainly pragmatic club who does whatever it takes to win. No moralistic bullshit about them.
I am exactly in the same boat as you. It also helps that Madrid lost its cnuts and Barca Messi.
 

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Only way out for Barca is change to a PLC or something like that and attract a rich buyer. They’d surely have no issues attracting the very richest
 

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People still dont understand it's entirely for spanish financial fair play reasons.

Just an example to understand it:
If you sign a 5 year contract with a new player for €70m transfer fee and €20m wages, you have to devide the complete cost over the contract's lenght to know his yearly costs. In this example, it would be 170 (€100m in wages + €70m transfer fee)/5= €34m/year. The spanish ffp writes those €34m down as the clubs new yearly liabilities.
If you sell now a player for €70m and €20m wages, you instantly get €70m and save €20m in wages. That's €90m in total for this financial year.
Although financially speaking both players cost the same, you freed up €56m in ffp space for this year.

You see the difference? That's also the reason, why Bartomeu did those shady exchange deals with Valencia and Juventus (Cillessen and Neto, Arthur and Pjanic). You sell a player, the whole sum counts as income. You buy a player, you divide his cost over 5 years. So no, it's primarily not about wages or same transfer fees, but to free up space in the ffp.
Thats just how FFP works for everyone, not just La Liga.
Your board is just dumb enough to start giving every player ridiculous salaries which led to your whole shitfest.
 

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Thats just how FFP works for everyone, not just La Liga.
Your board is just dumb enough to start giving every player ridiculous salaries which led to your whole shitfest.
You mean the previous board.
 

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No, the Bayern way: 30% sold to BMW/Allianz/Siemens if not mistaken
24.9% actually. Which is important since you need 75+% to change the club‘s constitution.

The Bundesliga allows for the sale of up to 49.99999% but Bayern limit themselves to 24.9%. It is held by Audi, Adidas and Allianz (8.3% each) by the way. The club controls the rest.
 

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So Barca have gone down the route of what is effectively a payday loan in order to still be able to splash the cash? Common sense would surely dictate you sell a couple of players, lean on youth and savvy transfers for a couple of seasons and then go again from there?
Barca took the payday to keep the lights on. No way are they splashing cash on transfers. People seriously under estimate how expensive their short term loans (approx €350m maturing in the next 12 months) are going to get and especially as they're only one grade above junk status (probably will go to junk shortly.)

This is also before we even get to the fact that the money they 'saved' last year through 'wage cuts' is shortly going to reappear as they were in fact deferments.

Given the quality of their academy and a few shrewd investments on players out of contract they'd still likely have CL every year and remain relevant as a club.
Barca essentially will have to sell at least one of their best players every year for the next 5-6 years as no way are they complying with La Liga FFP with their current debt level and the current trajectory of interest rates.
 

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So when do they have to pay piquet his £42.5m?

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They're screwed. The moment you align yourself to bankers and start whoring yourself out for quick cash injections is the moment you're fecked. Look at what happened to us.

Anyone who thinks they'll get a good price to buy it back is living in dreamland.
That wasn't our problem. Barca need to cutback. Why they keep signing old stars on big wages is beyond me though. Apparently the idea of developing players to sell them on is an affront to their self-image.
 

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Funny this. I used to prefer Barcelona but their sanctimonious ways just rubs me the wrong way these days. Madrid owns who they are, a highly successful, almost evil but certainly pragmatic club who does whatever it takes to win. No moralistic bullshit about them.
Xavi did an interview a few years back and it was delusional. He basically talked about how Barca is the "final exam" for a player, that Sterling can find space that CR can't, that Real don't want to play football and are fine with booting the ball into the stands, that Mbappe and Henry are more "physicality" than "talent" and that Javier Mascherano had to learn to play properly when he went to Barca.

Yeah, their utmost shameless way of presenting and conducting themselves and its sheer honesty does kinda make you begrudgingly respect them.
I remember hearing that a Madrid-linked newspaper in Spain called PSG's game against them as his "audition" as if he'd be lucky to be let go there. Their conviction that they are always the biggest and best is hilarious and watching Mbappe puncture that was glorious.
 

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It'll certainly help to lewa Robert over to Barcelona and 50m to Munich. That's all I care about.
Sorry to dampen your euphoria, but no it may not, as they still owe banks major money which most likely some of it will be called in due to the fact the Nou camp is to be upgraded next season and they be looking for loans, then there is the 40 million they still owe too Pique in wages and no doubt 1/2 other high earners which will seek it, more so Pique given the rumours of unrest with him and Barca, and even selling us De Jong won't help, as all they be doing in robbing Peter to pay Paul due to fee and wages demands of Lewandowski.