Barcelona signed a million players this summer, got rid of pretty much all their deadweight, and have a squad in which basically everyone is expected to get minutes. Can't say I feel any sympathy if they get a few injuries.
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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They might actually have to play well instead of relying on a few star players. Let’s see how that goes.
Barca have genuinely been playing very well
out of interest, do you support the Super League?
I find that rather amusing Lewa just came out couple of weeks ago and said he would be much closer winning the Ballon d´or at Barca then Bayern a statement everyone knows to be 100% correct.
UEFA and LA Liga are so far up each others behinds it´s crazy.
Or maybe it could have something to do with the fact that La Liga is the most successful league in Europe of all-time in terms of trophies won by Spanish teams? In particular the past 20-15 years have almost been complete and utter Spanish dominance. Not only thanks to Barça and RM.
The Bundesliga, with all due respect, is not in the same stratosphere either.
Also I am sure that it is the fault of UEFA that footballers representing Barça have won more Ballon d'Or's and FIFA World Player of the Year awards than any other club. RM being second. Nothing to do with the fact that those two teams have had (historically) the best attacking players of all football clubs. It's all solely due some imaginary pro-La Liga/Spain UEFA bias. So Lewa said nothing controversial at all. Even more so when UEFA has nothing to do with the Ballon d'Or nor the FIFA World Player award.
Anyway the same corrupt UEFA (indeed but so is FIFA and most football bodies) are now involved in a legal battle with Barça and RM due to the Super League.
If anything UEFA has been holding their hands and protecting the EPL for 15 + years ever since that league turned into a doping league (financially) and after it started to attract dictatorships and criminal oligarchs that were/are in it for the sport washing element.
Absolutely ridiculous comment.
Shocker. A RM fan not understanding a Barça fan complaining about the unbearable international breaks and subsequent injuries. In Barça's case the absurd cases of Araújo, Koundé, FDJ, Dembélé and Depay. Just a regular occurrence for any team to lose that many players in the first week of a international break. Nothing to complain about either after all RM fans have never ever complained about injuries or anything for that matter.
It's absolutely intolerable that players representing their countries in useless friendlies in the middle of the club season (when is the useless and corrupt FIFA going to wake up and reform the international football calendar?) end up suffering from injuries, some long-term ones. A few crucial injuries at a bad time and your entire season could be heavily impacted. Yes, injuries are part of the game, but those international games should have taken place AFTER the club season ends. Ages ago. The worst thing about a club season are those insufferable international breaks that used to occur in August, September, October and November and March. Now a World Cup in winter. When on top of that your players end up suffering long-term injuries, it gets even worse if that was even possible.
Anyway looks like Araújo is going to be operated and miss the remaining year, World Cup included. Luckily that will mean "only" 12 games until the Derbi Barceloní on 31 December. Looks like Koundé could be out for quite some games too. Hopefully he will be ready for the Clásico game. Vinicius will likely have a field day without Araújo and Koundé. Just bad luck, something that we have not lacked in recent years.
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I support any new form of organization that cuts out the useless and corrupt middleman Uefa, which take 300m+ every season for themselves just for "organizing". Not included bribe money. That new format has to be fair and square with relegation of course and without elite clubs status. Just keep the current leagues, leave the uefa competitions, create the same european format. So change basically nothing except cut out uefa and keep 100% of the money and distribute more to poorer teams so the competition gets stronger. That would get my support.
You are the ones who insisted you needed two top players for every position, for 'depth.' Well, here is when depth comes in handy.
Also Depay was almost a certainty to leave until the last minute and you were trying to sell De Jong all summer, c'mon.
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just say no haha, was a simple question. you are either for it or against.
how long does it actually take you to write all thatOr maybe it could have something to do with the fact that La Liga is the most successful league in Europe of all-time in terms of trophies won by Spanish teams? In particular the past 20-15 years have almost been complete and utter Spanish dominance. Not only thanks to Barça and RM.
The Bundesliga, with all due respect, is not in the same stratosphere either.
Also I am sure that it is the fault of UEFA that footballers representing Barça have won more Ballon d'Or's and FIFA World Player of the Year awards than any other club. RM being second. Nothing to do with the fact that those two teams have had (historically) the best attacking players of all football clubs. It's all solely due some imaginary pro-La Liga/Spain UEFA bias. So Lewa said nothing controversial at all. Even more so when UEFA has nothing to do with the Ballon d'Or nor the FIFA World Player award.
Anyway the same corrupt UEFA (indeed but so is FIFA and most football bodies) are now involved in a legal battle with Barça and RM due to the Super League.
If anything UEFA has been holding their hands and protecting the EPL for 15 + years ever since that league turned into a doping league (financially) and after it started to attract dictatorships and criminal oligarchs that were/are in it for the sport washing element.
Absolutely ridiculous comment.
Shocker. A RM fan not understanding a Barça fan complaining about the unbearable international breaks and subsequent injuries. In Barça's case the absurd cases of Araújo, Koundé, FDJ, Dembélé and Depay. Just a regular occurrence for any team to lose that many players in the first week of a international break. Nothing to complain about either after all RM fans have never ever complained about injuries or anything for that matter.
It's absolutely intolerable that players representing their countries in useless friendlies in the middle of the club season (when is the useless and corrupt FIFA going to wake up and reform the international football calendar?) end up suffering from injuries, some long-term ones. A few crucial injuries at a bad time and your entire season could be heavily impacted. Yes, injuries are part of the game, but those international games should have taken place AFTER the club season ends. Ages ago. The worst thing about a club season are those insufferable international breaks that used to occur in August, September, October and November and March. Now a World Cup in winter. When on top of that your players end up suffering long-term injuries, it gets even worse if that was even possible.
Anyway looks like Araújo is going to be operated and miss the remaining year, World Cup included. Luckily that will mean "only" 12 games until the Derbi Barceloní on 31 December. Looks like Koundé could be out for quite some games too. Hopefully he will be ready for the Clásico game. Vinicius will likely have a field day without Araújo and Koundé. Just bad luck, something that we have not lacked in recent years.
I'm actually surprised why the PL isn't as cozy as La Liga. Madrid/Barca market their players through their contacts in the media while PL clubs don't seem to really care in promoting their players. Considering the PL's revenues, I think the PL has enough resources to advocate for some of their top players - at least regularly get them to top-5.
Feck off Barca fans complaining about injuries.
Araújo pulled up after 36 seconds and is now getting surgery.
Will miss the World Cup. We wait four fecking years, while you worry about some CL group stage games... while getting 20k/day throughout (more than he is on).
Fantastic timing for a player surgery.
Araújo pulled up after 36 seconds and is now getting surgery.
Will miss the World Cup. We wait four fecking years, while you worry about some CL group stage games... while getting 20k/day throughout (more than he is on).
Fantastic timing for a player surgery.
Yeah it's pretty silly. Barcelona have had arguably 3 of the 4 greatest players ever (Messi, Maradona, and Cryuff). It's not exactly shocking that a club would have balón dors if the best players of their generation play for it.
This always cracks me up.
Lewandowski not winning the ballon d‘or was a farce. Also, handing a mediocre Messi player of the World Cup in 2014 was ridiculous. And many other instances.
Bayern is beating Barça easily in the last years. To say that LaLiga is the best league is bollocks. The PL is the toughest by far.
Bayern is beating Barça easily in the last years. To say that LaLiga is the best league is bollocks. The PL is the toughest by far.
Barca bots come out to defend everything Barca
How long before the bots are eliminated?
First came bots from Florentino trying to hype the Super League.
Now they've come in double paid for miracle palancas trying to sell the glory of a bankrupt club.
And then one is warned if you respond to them.
Something is going wrong here.
But a miracle is that in a short space of time the whole world hates Spotify Barcelona and has already forgotten about hating Florentino.
Brilliant disaster.
First came bots from Florentino trying to hype the Super League.
Now they've come in double paid for miracle palancas trying to sell the glory of a bankrupt club.
And then one is warned if you respond to them.
Something is going wrong here.
But a miracle is that in a short space of time the whole world hates Spotify Barcelona and has already forgotten about hating Florentino.
Brilliant disaster.
Genuinely around 5-10 minutes if I first start getting going.
You do realize that Araújo is the one that made the decision right? Nobody was forcing him to undergo an operation with a pistol to his head. Not only that, it is the best decision for him long-term. He is 23 years old and has a long career (hopefully) ahead of him. The last thing he needs is to end up as the next Umtiti and basically turn into a crippled ex-footballer.
Just the Brazilian contingent alone is unmatched. Romário, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Neymar etc. Those are arguably the best Brazilian players (attacking wise surely) since the era of Zico 40 years ago.
What has that do with Barça or La Liga? Ballon d'Or has nothing to do with Spain. If anything they should have a French bias.
Secondly it was the decision of Ballon d'Or itself not to award a winner in 2020. Everyone knows that Lewandowski should have won in 2020.
Even Messi publicly stated that he deserved to win it that year.
Him not winning in 2021, but Messi, was not controversial at all.
La Liga is the best league historically (most successful in Europe) and has dominated European football in the modern era. Those are facts. It is no longer the best, the EPL (doping league) is better nowadays. Hard not to when every team is owned by some billionaire, a dictatorial state, criminal oligarch etc.
Which bots? Are you seriously trying to tell us that there is some coordinated Barça PR campaign on freaking RedCafe? Come on. Ordinary forum users contributing to football discussions on arguably the best English speaking football forum. Not that shocking and exactly what makes RedCafe special.
All I see is a Chelsea "bot" obsessing about Barça and engaging in trolling. Yet in the real world Barça is one of the most popular football clubs (if not the most popular based on social media following) in the world (lightyears ahead of Chelsea) and neither is Barça bankrupt. Bit rich coming from a fan of a irrelevant club (historically speaking) that only gained relevance after it was taken over by a criminal Russian oligarch.
Also your post adds nothing to the discussion other than trolling so no wonder that you cannot understand why you have received a warning if that is your level.
Chelsea for me is an irrelevant club and as such I neither dislike nor like the club but you don't see me trolling in Chelsea-related threads here. Maybe you should follow suit.
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Yes, "special" is definitely an apt word for this thread.
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I'm not disputing that it is best for an injured footballer to do what is best for his recovery and career thereafter.
I'm saying Barca fans should shut the feck up about internationals injuring their players for the next few weeks of the season when clearly it is far more important if they are also missing an event that happens every four years. Of course, your stance on that will be to extend the layoffs and make the most of that extra month while bankrolled by FIFA instead of paying for them to be at the World Cup.
In what planet is a Barcelona fan entitled to bitch about something which clearly affects everyone else (player, NT, even FIFA and its tournament) far more?
So do they get an emergency signing to cover for the injured players like last time or...?
I agree but it's funny to hear players come out and tell it like it is. It's not like Lewa played for Bochum he was the main striker for a team that spanked Barca a short while back.
3 months is a few weeks? You seem to be bitching about Araújo getting injured while playing for Uruguay, not Barça, and afterwards making the most sensible decision for his career (to operate) completely out of his own free will.
Oh, the horror, that the long-existing laws demand FIFA to pay compensation to the actual employers of players (football clubs) who pay the salaries of players in case of injuries sustained during those useless international games. Non-competitive like the case with Uruguay’s two friendlies 2 months before the World Cup even begins. Once again, the FIFA football calendar is absolutely ridiculous.
Those commenting about the absurd amount of injuries to Barça players are totally normal fan reactions.
Nobody prevents you from “bitching” about Araújo missing the World Cup with Uruguay. It is understandable similar to Barça or any other fans for that matter, bitching about injuries to their players. It would be similar if 5 Man Utd players had suffered from injuries while playing for their national teams.
Anyway to make it more absurd, Bellerín is out for 3-4 weeks. No Araújo, Koundé nor Bellerín as RB options. The only one left is freaking Roberto who himself just had an injury and likely is completely rusty. If Koundé will not be ready before El Clásico, Vinicius and RM will have a field day against our RB and defense.
The economic vice president of FC Barcelona, Eduard Romeu, reviewed the financial situation of the club.
- "We have completely changed the structure. From having players with salary levels outside the market and an already large squad at the average age level, we have gone on to have players with projection and market levels, which will surely be important "
- "Without sounding presumptuous, we have saved Barça but we don't have it financially healthy and a lot of austerity and rigor are needed and there is a lot of work to do"
- "Barça will be healthy in these 5 years" and believes that "in the 2024-25 season we will be at the level that corresponds to us"
- Regarding the losses that playing next season in Montjuic will entail, Romeu believes that "the 100 million euros that some reports have predicted will not be reached."
- "We have completely changed the structure. From having players with salary levels outside the market and an already large squad at the average age level, we have gone on to have players with projection and market levels, which will surely be important "
- "Without sounding presumptuous, we have saved Barça but we don't have it financially healthy and a lot of austerity and rigor are needed and there is a lot of work to do"
- "Barça will be healthy in these 5 years" and believes that "in the 2024-25 season we will be at the level that corresponds to us"
- Regarding the losses that playing next season in Montjuic will entail, Romeu believes that "the 100 million euros that some reports have predicted will not be reached."
Three months? He will be on the pitch for Barca first game after the World Cup, guaranteed.
I don't dispute it's the best choice, but if there was no World Cup and FIFA weren't paying for the layoff, the club wouldn't have instantly pushed for surgery without delay.
That's not how you usually go about injuries. Bar during the miraculous injury-free Pep reign, you've always pushed players through injury, often at their long-term detriment, going all the way back to Schuster.
Yes, this is clearly the direction the club has taken.
Yes, approximately 3 months.
https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futb...ujo-operado-satisfactoriamente-finlandia.html
You know that how exactly? That's just your own unsubstantiated theory. If anything, after the Umtiti and Fati calamities the club cannot afford to take any gambles and will probably always recommend the recommended medical solution. Umtiti did not listen to the club when the club doctors told him that he is risking his long-term career and health. He did not listen, participated in the World Cup 2018 (won so credit to him) and has now been a cripple for years. Fati, when he suffered his most recent long-term injury, similarly did not listen and preferred not to undergo an operation. Looks far from ready 1 year after whenever he plays. Has to be said that there are some rumors of mishandling from Barça (regarding previous operations) but we don't know the full details.
There were plenty of injuries during the Pep era. Some very serious ones. Not sure what you are insinuating here?
Not old enough to remember the era of Schuster so I cannot comment on that claim of yours.
Anyway for all it matters, whenever Spain or Italy cannot win a international tournament, I automatically (usually) cheer for Argentina and Uruguay.
Yes, I understand the mutual rivalry between those two neighboring countries but basically Argentina and Uruguay are a blend of Spaniards and Italians, so they are natural alternatives.
Lastly nobody can question the commitment of Araújo for club and country. He is a type of player that gives it all in every match. He is probably more devastated about his injury than all fans of his combined. However him undergoing an operation willingly is probably the by far best option for him. It is very probable that Uruguay will qualify for the next World Cup as well which is less than 4 years away. Also from what I have watched of Uruguay, it seems that Araújo was mainly used as a RB. I am sure that Uruguay has some alternatives (natural RB's) on this position.
As a side comment, Al-Khaleifi really needs to shut up and do something about his Barça obsession. From cheerleading Barça at the Camp Nou during the 5-0 win against RM (November 2010 - there are videos of him celebrating along with other fans on Camp Nou on Youtube), to obsessing about Barça ever since Rosell/Bartomeu had the audacity to show interest in Marquinhos and Verratti. After that the countless PSG exists against Barça. Even in the handball CL (where all of PSG's European projects have failed too just like in football so far 10 years into his stint as president) this guy watched Barça eliminate PSG numerous times from the stands. This guy has to be the biggest closet culé in the world by now.
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If this was any other club I’d be interested to see how they’d go about starting an investigation, but the fecking audacity PSG Chairman bitching about Barca’s levers
PSG Chairman bitching about Barca’s leversThe biggest cheaters Qatar Saint Germain complaining about our financial levers. Money from our own assets. Not oil money from Qatar.
I'd rather seeing Real Madrid winning five Champions Leagues in a row than Qatar winning any.
I'd rather seeing Real Madrid winning five Champions Leagues in a row than Qatar winning any.
I'll take 'Redcafe posts' for $200 please Alex.
Is it "how long does it take to read your posts?"
Never taking seriously posters complaining about international football. You know there's more people interested in that than in actual club football right? WC final viewing numbers dwarf any others (including CL finals) for a reason.
How are random La Liga or PL fixtures more important than games such as Germany v England? The entitlement is mind-boggling. I for one enjoy seeing my NT play a few times a year, and I don't care at all if players get injured in those games and subsequently can't play for their clubs. Guess what - the reverse situation is just as common.
How are random La Liga or PL fixtures more important than games such as Germany v England? The entitlement is mind-boggling. I for one enjoy seeing my NT play a few times a year, and I don't care at all if players get injured in those games and subsequently can't play for their clubs. Guess what - the reverse situation is just as common.
yeah because Umtiti and Fati are not perfect examples what happens to players, if they don't listen to medical advice and go without surgery. I'm sure fifa's pennys are the reason for it.
Facts!
I thought this was gold - from FotMob (don't know where they got it)
"The Blaugrana were unable to move for Neves this summer due to their financial situation.
Their finances were so dire that Barcelona were only able to sign Robert Lewandowski, Raphinha, Franck Kessie, Andreas Christensen, Hector Bellerin, Jules Kounde and [Irrelevant point] in the summer."
"The Blaugrana were unable to move for Neves this summer due to their financial situation.
Their finances were so dire that Barcelona were only able to sign Robert Lewandowski, Raphinha, Franck Kessie, Andreas Christensen, Hector Bellerin, Jules Kounde and [Irrelevant point] in the summer."