Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!

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I love how every 2-3 months we have a new bot in here serving as a blaugrana mouthpiece. It's like clockwork, and has the same pattern:
1 - Relatively innocuous posts about boring shit, copy pasting articles from Catalan newspapers and the official website
2 - Start posting more annoying stuff, highlighting how genius the handling of the club's finances is; usually deflect everything onto the former president, ignoring the fact that he was elected with their usual process, and that the current one is probably just as corrupt
3 - Ignore and deflect whenever the topic of the ref bribery comes up
4 - Address the ref bribery: there were reports made public (might be 11 year old drawings but doesn't matter they were produced!), it's totally normal to have had financial links with the boss of referees for 20 years, Real Madrid probably did it before, produce videos showing 2 instances in the Champions League where Barça were not awarded a 50/50 call
5 - Get more and more aggressive with posts calling out the nonsense, probably mention Franco (inaccurately, of course) and royal funding and stuff
6 - Get banned
Add "5.5: Mentioning how it is Vinicius own fault since he is provoking the crowds"
 

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"Ayuso (Mayor of Madrid) will spend €68 million to expand the Santiago Bernabéu station and complete the renovation of Real Madrid."

"The renovation project of the Santiago Bernabéu undertaken by Real Madrid and its surroundings will be completed in 2027 with a renovated Metro station that will provide access to the stadium and will be paid for by the Community of Madrid. Ayuso's government will dedicate 68 million euros to triple the space of the Santiago Bernabéu stop with works that will last three years."

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"Lawsuit against Almeida for watering Florentino Pérez's Bernabéu business with public money."

"A court in Madrid admits the lawsuit of a neighbourhood association for the alleged misuse of power by the consistory by assuming the construction of an access tunnel to two new car parks awarded to a Real Madrid company. A complaint has also been lodged with the EU."

"Neither the car parks nor the tunnel are of public utility. They serve very specific private interests, which is a possible misuse of power"

"The association has also filed a complaint against the council at the Madrid office of the European Commission for alleged misuse of power, by spending public money on a private business initiative.

" The concession contract tendered by the Madrid City Council for the two car parks has an estimated turnover of 561 million euros. The winning company will assume the cost of the construction and will pay an annual fee of 150,000 euros to the City Council for 40 years; something that the complainants describe as "derisory".

Thus, the club chaired by Florentino Pérez will operate a business with a turnover of 561 million euros for four decades, "to which will also be added the management of 20,000 square meters of public space around the Santiago Bernabéu, also privatized for 40 years as an additional gift to the winning company"

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Madrid absolutely do get help. My point is that Barca get plenty of help as well. Neither are underdogs. They're both establishment teams that get a lot of favours and advantages and Barca complaining about Madrid getting too much help is like Jeff Bezos complaining about how much money Elon Musk has.
 

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I love how every 2-3 months we have a new bot in here serving as a blaugrana mouthpiece. It's like clockwork, and has the same pattern:
1 - Relatively innocuous posts about boring shit, copy pasting articles from Catalan newspapers and the official website
2 - Start posting more annoying stuff, highlighting how genius the handling of the club's finances is; usually deflect everything onto the former president, ignoring the fact that he was elected with their usual process, and that the current one is probably just as corrupt
3 - Ignore and deflect whenever the topic of the ref bribery comes up
4 - Address the ref bribery: there were reports made public (might be 11 year old drawings but doesn't matter they were produced!), it's totally normal to have had financial links with the boss of referees for 20 years, Real Madrid probably did it before, produce videos showing 2 instances in the Champions League where Barça were not awarded a 50/50 call
5 - Get more and more aggressive with posts calling out the nonsense, probably mention Franco (inaccurately, of course) and royal funding and stuff
6 - Get banned
Here's an example, and worst of all, he's a "scout," who can give likes to newbies.

I had planned to do a post about the latest in the Negreira case, but... Is it worth it?
 

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Here's an example, and worst of all, he's a "scout," who can give likes to newbies.

I had planned to do a post about the latest in the Negreira case, but... Is it worth it?
no
 

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Barcelona, a vibrant city nestled on the northeastern coast of Catalonia, beckons with its rich cultural tapestry, awe-inspiring architecture, and a zest for life that resonates through its streets. From the iconic Sagrada Família to the lively energy of La Rambla, Barcelona invites you to immerse yourself in a world where history meets modernity. Indulge in the culinary delights of tapas and paella, savor the Mediterranean breeze along its beaches, and witness the passion of Flamenco dancing. Join the celebration of diversity and creativity in this city that seamlessly blends tradition with innovation. Barcelona, where every corner tells a story, and every moment is an opportunity to belittle it's world famous football club, currently in financial peril, and the laughing stock of the universe.

Any good?
 

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Here's an example, and worst of all, he's a "scout," who can give likes to newbies.

I had planned to do a post about the latest in the Negreira case, but... Is it worth it?
Probably not
 

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Barcelona, a vibrant city nestled on the northeastern coast of Catalonia, beckons with its rich cultural tapestry, awe-inspiring architecture, and a zest for life that resonates through its streets. From the iconic Sagrada Família to the lively energy of La Rambla, Barcelona invites you to immerse yourself in a world where history meets modernity. Indulge in the culinary delights of tapas and paella, savor the Mediterranean breeze along its beaches, and witness the passion of Flamenco dancing. Join the celebration of diversity and creativity in this city that seamlessly blends tradition with innovation. Barcelona, where every corner tells a story, and every moment is an opportunity to belittle it's world famous football club, currently in financial peril, and the laughing stock of the universe.

Any good?
I Ray Hudson-ified it for you

"Barcelona, the celestial city perched upon the northeastern coast of Catalonia, beckons with the kind of charm that makes the Mona Lisa blush. This place is a living, breathing testament to the sheer audacity of human creation – a symphony of cultural brilliance and architectural marvels that would make even the gods take a moment to applaud. The Sagrada Família stands tall, a divine fingerprint etched into the Barcelona skyline, and La Rambla pulsates with a vibrancy that is nothing short of electric.

Oh, my goodness, folks, let me tell you about the culinary escapade that awaits you in this paradise! Dive into the intoxicating world of tapas, those little dishes that dance on your taste buds like a Messi dribble. And the paella! It's a culinary masterpiece, a dish that sings the song of the Mediterranean with every grain of rice.

Now, picture this – the sun kissing your skin as you stroll along the beaches, each wave whispering tales of love and adventure. It's not just a city; it's a love affair with life itself. And the Flamenco dancing, my friends, it's like watching a performance by the football gods themselves, a dance of passion that would make even the ball jealous.

In this city of dreams, diversity and creativity intertwine like Messi's mesmerizing runs on the field. Tradition and innovation waltz hand in hand, creating a tapestry of experiences that will leave you breathless. Every corner is a canvas, telling stories that echo through the ages.

And, of course, we can't forget about the football club that's as iconic as the city itself. Barcelona, in all its glory, has a football team that has not only conquered the sport but has also faced its share of challenges. But fear not, for just like the phoenix rising from the ashes, Barcelona will find its way back to greatness.

So, my friends, come and join this cosmic celebration, where every moment is a chance to revel in the magic of Barcelona – a city that paints the universe with colors only seen in dreams. Viva Barcelona, where even the laughter is a symphony of triumph waiting to be composed!"

More Ray Hudson, ChatGPT!

Ah, Barcelona, the city that doesn't just play football; it pirouettes through the beautiful game like a maestro leading a symphony! Nestled on the northeastern coast of Catalonia, it's not just a place; it's a footballing cathedral, where every pass is a brushstroke on the canvas of genius.

Take a look at the Sagrada Família, my friends! It's like the Messi of architecture, a masterpiece that defies description. La Rambla, with its lively energy, is a carnival of skill and flair – a footballer's dream in the heart of this footballing haven.

Now, let's talk about the culinary wizardry! Tapas, like Iniesta's magical touches, tease and tantalize your taste buds, leaving you begging for more. And paella, oh sweet paella, it's like Xavi orchestrating a midfield symphony with every grain of rice. A gastronomic journey that deserves a standing ovation.

But let's not forget the beaches – a playground for both football and leisure. The Mediterranean breeze whispers secrets of glory, and the Flamenco dancing? It's like a Piqué tackle – passionate, intense, and impossible to ignore!

Barcelona, my friends, is a celebration of diversity and creativity that rivals the most jaw-dropping goals. Tradition and innovation coalesce like a Messi and Neymar partnership, creating a spectacle that leaves you in awe.

And then there's the football club – a saga of triumph, heartbreak, and, yes, financial woes. But fear not, for like a Messi free-kick, Barcelona will rise again, defying the odds and reclaiming its place among the footballing titans.

In this city of dreams, every corner tells a story, and every moment is a magical pass waiting to be received. So, lace up your boots and join the dance, my friends, because Barcelona isn't just a city; it's a footballing utopia where even the laughter echoes with the joy of victory yet to come. ¡Vamos Barça!
 

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Here's an example, and worst of all, he's a "scout," who can give likes to newbies.

I had planned to do a post about the latest in the Negreira case, but... Is it worth it?
Nah no point.
To be frank, I think you've misunderstood the level of interest in the minutiae of other teams on the site. That very limited level of interest drops to zero as soon as you're outside the premier league. So yeah, people wont care when your announcing yet another round of funding to pay for whatever boring piece of infrastructure or a long description of every youth player who comes within a mile of your team. If it isn't a first team football match then no one cares and that goes for every club.
Barcelona are an exception in that no one gives a feck about you outside of what punishment you'll face for bribing referee's. Your basically dead to us. To be clear that doesn't mean they're interested in the daily made up bolox your 'journalists' report. They care about the result which will be widely published, we wont have to go searching for it.
 

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Nah no point.
To be frank, I think you've misunderstood the level of interest in the minutiae of other teams on the site. That very limited level of interest drops to zero as soon as you're outside the premier league. So yeah, people wont care when your announcing yet another round of funding to pay for whatever boring piece of infrastructure or a long description of every youth player who comes within a mile of your team. If it isn't a first team football match then no one cares and that goes for every club.
Barcelona are an exception in that no one gives a feck about you outside of what punishment you'll face for bribing referee's. Your basically dead to us. To be clear that doesn't mean they're interested in the daily made up bolox your 'journalists' report. They care about the result which will be widely published, we wont have to go searching for it.

People who are not interested in this thread should not enter and ignore it. It's the logical thing to do.

What is not normal is to enter a thread that does not interest you and tell the people who contribute with respectful opinions and information what they should do or not do.

But hey, I'm figuring out how this thread works. All the bad things about Barcelona are true and all the good things are false.

Spoiler: A few days ago here was the latest news about negreira, about the indictment of a judge for bribery.

Specialized jurists from all over Spain are saying that the judge's order is absurd and has no path whatsoever. And they explain the reason for this absurdity.

It doesn't matter here. Barcelona is bad and if the club is innocent it is because of corruption of the judge.

Just like the story that Barcelona is bankrupt.
 

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People who are not interested in this thread should not enter and ignore it. It's the logical thing to do.

What is not normal is to enter a thread that does not interest you and tell the people who contribute with respectful opinions and information what they should do or not do.

But hey, I'm figuring out how this thread works. All the bad things about Barcelona are true and all the good things are false.

Spoiler: A few days ago here was the latest news about negreira, about the indictment of a judge for bribery.

Specialized jurists from all over Spain are saying that the judge's order is absurd and has no path whatsoever. And they explain the reason for this absurdity.

It doesn't matter here. Barcelona is bad and if the club is innocent it is because of corruption of the judge.

Just like the story that Barcelona is bankrupt.
I'm happy enough expressing my disdain thanks.
You asked, not in much of a position to whine about getting an answer.
 

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I love how every 2-3 months we have a new bot in here serving as a blaugrana mouthpiece. It's like clockwork, and has the same pattern:
1 - Relatively innocuous posts about boring shit, copy pasting articles from Catalan newspapers and the official website
2 - Start posting more annoying stuff, highlighting how genius the handling of the club's finances is; usually deflect everything onto the former president, ignoring the fact that he was elected with their usual process, and that the current one is probably just as corrupt
3 - Ignore and deflect whenever the topic of the ref bribery comes up
4 - Address the ref bribery: there were reports made public (might be 11 year old drawings but doesn't matter they were produced!), it's totally normal to have had financial links with the boss of referees for 20 years, Real Madrid probably did it before, produce videos showing 2 instances in the Champions League where Barça were not awarded a 50/50 call
5 - Get more and more aggressive with posts calling out the nonsense, probably mention Franco (inaccurately, of course) and royal funding and stuff
6 - Get banned
Spot on. And all of those are new accounts created just for that.

Barca probably don't even have the money to hire a bot farm permanently. Probably it's the same poster the whole time and he/she posting here only whenever Barca have the money to pay :D
 

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Spot on. And all of those are new accounts created just for that.

Barca probably don't even have the money to hire a bot farm permanently. Probably it's the same poster the whole time and he/she posting here only whenever Barca have the money to pay :D
This trope of football club paying a bad poster to spread propaganda on redcafe really should have died a long time ago.
 

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"Ayuso (Mayor of Madrid) will spend €68 million to expand the Santiago Bernabéu station and complete the renovation of Real Madrid."

"The renovation project of the Santiago Bernabéu undertaken by Real Madrid and its surroundings will be completed in 2027 with a renovated Metro station that will provide access to the stadium and will be paid for by the Community of Madrid. Ayuso's government will dedicate 68 million euros to triple the space of the Santiago Bernabéu stop with works that will last three years."
Ominous: the Madrid goverment is spending government money to renovate a government-owned and operated metro station.
 
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I Ray Hudson-ified it for you

"Barcelona, the celestial city perched upon the northeastern coast of Catalonia, beckons with the kind of charm that makes the Mona Lisa blush. This place is a living, breathing testament to the sheer audacity of human creation – a symphony of cultural brilliance and architectural marvels that would make even the gods take a moment to applaud. The Sagrada Família stands tall, a divine fingerprint etched into the Barcelona skyline, and La Rambla pulsates with a vibrancy that is nothing short of electric.

Oh, my goodness, folks, let me tell you about the culinary escapade that awaits you in this paradise! Dive into the intoxicating world of tapas, those little dishes that dance on your taste buds like a Messi dribble. And the paella! It's a culinary masterpiece, a dish that sings the song of the Mediterranean with every grain of rice.

Now, picture this – the sun kissing your skin as you stroll along the beaches, each wave whispering tales of love and adventure. It's not just a city; it's a love affair with life itself. And the Flamenco dancing, my friends, it's like watching a performance by the football gods themselves, a dance of passion that would make even the ball jealous.

In this city of dreams, diversity and creativity intertwine like Messi's mesmerizing runs on the field. Tradition and innovation waltz hand in hand, creating a tapestry of experiences that will leave you breathless. Every corner is a canvas, telling stories that echo through the ages.

And, of course, we can't forget about the football club that's as iconic as the city itself. Barcelona, in all its glory, has a football team that has not only conquered the sport but has also faced its share of challenges. But fear not, for just like the phoenix rising from the ashes, Barcelona will find its way back to greatness.

So, my friends, come and join this cosmic celebration, where every moment is a chance to revel in the magic of Barcelona – a city that paints the universe with colors only seen in dreams. Viva Barcelona, where even the laughter is a symphony of triumph waiting to be composed!"

More Ray Hudson, ChatGPT!

Ah, Barcelona, the city that doesn't just play football; it pirouettes through the beautiful game like a maestro leading a symphony! Nestled on the northeastern coast of Catalonia, it's not just a place; it's a footballing cathedral, where every pass is a brushstroke on the canvas of genius.

Take a look at the Sagrada Família, my friends! It's like the Messi of architecture, a masterpiece that defies description. La Rambla, with its lively energy, is a carnival of skill and flair – a footballer's dream in the heart of this footballing haven.

Now, let's talk about the culinary wizardry! Tapas, like Iniesta's magical touches, tease and tantalize your taste buds, leaving you begging for more. And paella, oh sweet paella, it's like Xavi orchestrating a midfield symphony with every grain of rice. A gastronomic journey that deserves a standing ovation.

But let's not forget the beaches – a playground for both football and leisure. The Mediterranean breeze whispers secrets of glory, and the Flamenco dancing? It's like a Piqué tackle – passionate, intense, and impossible to ignore!

Barcelona, my friends, is a celebration of diversity and creativity that rivals the most jaw-dropping goals. Tradition and innovation coalesce like a Messi and Neymar partnership, creating a spectacle that leaves you in awe.

And then there's the football club – a saga of triumph, heartbreak, and, yes, financial woes. But fear not, for like a Messi free-kick, Barcelona will rise again, defying the odds and reclaiming its place among the footballing titans.

In this city of dreams, every corner tells a story, and every moment is a magical pass waiting to be received. So, lace up your boots and join the dance, my friends, because Barcelona isn't just a city; it's a footballing utopia where even the laughter echoes with the joy of victory yet to come. ¡Vamos Barça!
No majesterial in there. Fake news. Stop misrepresenting Ray Hudson you silly anus.
 

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I Ray Hudson-ified it for you

"Barcelona, the celestial city perched upon the northeastern coast of Catalonia, beckons with the kind of charm that makes the Mona Lisa blush. This place is a living, breathing testament to the sheer audacity of human creation – a symphony of cultural brilliance and architectural marvels that would make even the gods take a moment to applaud. The Sagrada Família stands tall, a divine fingerprint etched into the Barcelona skyline, and La Rambla pulsates with a vibrancy that is nothing short of electric.

Oh, my goodness, folks, let me tell you about the culinary escapade that awaits you in this paradise! Dive into the intoxicating world of tapas, those little dishes that dance on your taste buds like a Messi dribble. And the paella! It's a culinary masterpiece, a dish that sings the song of the Mediterranean with every grain of rice.

Now, picture this – the sun kissing your skin as you stroll along the beaches, each wave whispering tales of love and adventure. It's not just a city; it's a love affair with life itself. And the Flamenco dancing, my friends, it's like watching a performance by the football gods themselves, a dance of passion that would make even the ball jealous.

In this city of dreams, diversity and creativity intertwine like Messi's mesmerizing runs on the field. Tradition and innovation waltz hand in hand, creating a tapestry of experiences that will leave you breathless. Every corner is a canvas, telling stories that echo through the ages.

And, of course, we can't forget about the football club that's as iconic as the city itself. Barcelona, in all its glory, has a football team that has not only conquered the sport but has also faced its share of challenges. But fear not, for just like the phoenix rising from the ashes, Barcelona will find its way back to greatness.

So, my friends, come and join this cosmic celebration, where every moment is a chance to revel in the magic of Barcelona – a city that paints the universe with colors only seen in dreams. Viva Barcelona, where even the laughter is a symphony of triumph waiting to be composed!"

More Ray Hudson, ChatGPT!

Ah, Barcelona, the city that doesn't just play football; it pirouettes through the beautiful game like a maestro leading a symphony! Nestled on the northeastern coast of Catalonia, it's not just a place; it's a footballing cathedral, where every pass is a brushstroke on the canvas of genius.

Take a look at the Sagrada Família, my friends! It's like the Messi of architecture, a masterpiece that defies description. La Rambla, with its lively energy, is a carnival of skill and flair – a footballer's dream in the heart of this footballing haven.

Now, let's talk about the culinary wizardry! Tapas, like Iniesta's magical touches, tease and tantalize your taste buds, leaving you begging for more. And paella, oh sweet paella, it's like Xavi orchestrating a midfield symphony with every grain of rice. A gastronomic journey that deserves a standing ovation.

But let's not forget the beaches – a playground for both football and leisure. The Mediterranean breeze whispers secrets of glory, and the Flamenco dancing? It's like a Piqué tackle – passionate, intense, and impossible to ignore!

Barcelona, my friends, is a celebration of diversity and creativity that rivals the most jaw-dropping goals. Tradition and innovation coalesce like a Messi and Neymar partnership, creating a spectacle that leaves you in awe.

And then there's the football club – a saga of triumph, heartbreak, and, yes, financial woes. But fear not, for like a Messi free-kick, Barcelona will rise again, defying the odds and reclaiming its place among the footballing titans.

In this city of dreams, every corner tells a story, and every moment is a magical pass waiting to be received. So, lace up your boots and join the dance, my friends, because Barcelona isn't just a city; it's a footballing utopia where even the laughter echoes with the joy of victory yet to come. ¡Vamos Barça!
Well, I have to say that it's quite realistic. This Ray Hudson, I don't know him, knows what he's talking about and has good taste.
 

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Ominous: the Madrid goverment is spending government money to renovate a government-owned and operated metro station.
Shocking. Why is the club not paying for this transport infrastructure? Illegal state support I tell you. Let Romano and their other official journos report on this travesty