Benjamin Sesko | Despite Raees best efforts he’s joining Liepzig. Damn you Raees

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A really in depth article on Šeško here (its in Slovenian but google translates it nicely). Although it doesnt say antyhing particularly new, it could be useful for people new to the thread.

It does say, however that his top speed was clocked at 36.1 km/hour, which is also corroborated in this goal.com article from 2021. The latter article also has quotes of his agent about the 2019 transfer to Salzburg, where he explains why he rahter chose a gradual career path over a big move straight away.

So for quality of future debate I hope that the "he's slow" myth is now busted.

And if he doesnt end up in United, it presumably wont be because of "useless United negotiating" or because "we have fallen so far down", but rather because right now he still sees us as too big a step and doesnt want to make the mistake of making the big move too quickly. This line of thinking was once more iterated by his agent in a interview with Slovenian TV, regarding this years possible move. (or maybe his agent is just full of shit and he then goes to Chelsea :rolleyes:)
 

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Eh it doesn't make sense if Ronaldo stays. You want 2 players per position. When Sir Alex was here, it was 442, so you needed 4 strikers. We have 2 because we play 1 striker. We should have 4 wingers, but we have 2, that's the bigger issue.
How does it not make sense? We have an injury prone martial who had been out of form for more than a year, looked more like himself in preseason but pulled a hamstring, and a nearly 38 year old. How do we NOT need to increase the depth there. He’s 19 he won’t expect to play every match
 

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For anyone that wants a more reasoned analysis of Sesko, there's a good article below. As you would expect for a nineteen year old, it expands on his flaws as much as his strengths.

https://www.scoutedftbl.com/best-young-football-players/benjamin-sesko/

I would still love him because I think he has the foundations to be a great striker which is something I never really felt about Greenwood since he began playing in the first team. Can't imagine spending 50mn on him though without it being a massive overpayment.
 

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How does it not make sense? We have an injury prone martial who had been out of form for more than a year, looked more like himself in preseason but pulled a hamstring, and a nearly 38 year old. How do we NOT need to increase the depth there. He’s 19 he won’t expect to play every match
Exactly! I mean, if we had bought Šeško at the start of the window, he would probably start the opening game of the season because of Martials injury and Ronaldo not match fit. Furthermore, Šeško is a different profile to any other striker options we have and even just by that he would be useful if we want to change it up a bit.
 

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Eh it doesn't make sense if Ronaldo stays. You want 2 players per position. When Sir Alex was here, it was 442, so you needed 4 strikers. We have 2 because we play 1 striker. We should have 4 wingers, but we have 2, that's the bigger issue.
All of that completely ignores the benefits of forward planning rather than reactively trying to replace players when they leave. It totally makes sense to bring in a talented young forward now
 

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Exactly! I mean, if we had bought Šeško at the start of the window, he would probably start the opening game of the season because of Martials injury and Ronaldo not match fit. Furthermore, Šeško is a different profile to any other striker options we have and even just by that he would be useful if we want to change it up a bit.
I get that people want a winger, a rb and so on, but this signing is also needed. We don’t know how many games we can get out of the other 2. I really don’t want to see Rashford as number 9. He wasn’t good there.
sesko Is young, plenty of growth to still come but I think he can offer us plenty, even now. Besides if we dont get him now he will cost even more in a season or 2
 

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I think we might pay what's needed just because it's clearly another crisis summer of incompetence and we may panic and throw some money somewhere.
 

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We still had 4 when we played 442
Yes, the point I was making. You have twice what you can start. So when we play with one striker it makes sense to have two in the squad (at least). If we had four strikers that would be like our stockpiling of defenders though.
 

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Are you saying EtH is as shit as RR then?
I don't think RR or ETH is shit. It's simply impossible to play any good, energetic modern pressing football with the current 37 yo Ronaldo. That is the biggest reason all coaches/ top clubs refuse him when his agent whoring him all over Europe this summer.

Anyway, let's not turn this to another Ronaldo thread.
 

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Yes, the point I was making. You have twice what you can start. So when we play with one striker it makes sense to have two in the squad (at least). If we had four strikers that would be like our stockpiling of defenders though.
Oh I get you now
 

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Yes, the point I was making. You have twice what you can start. So when we play with one striker it makes sense to have two in the squad (at least). If we had four strikers that would be like our stockpiling of defenders though.
One of those strikers is an injury russian roulette that also needs to provide cover on the left wing while the second striker is 38 and would ditch us at the most convenient opportunity for himself. Sesko would be third choice striker and would probably get plenty of minutes. Not sure who the fourth striker you're thinking of is but I don't think it would be overkill in any way to have another as unlikely as that is given other transfer priorities.
 

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Don’t know if it’s me being pessimistic but I think our name is being thrown about here with no concrete interest. I think we should be after a forward, but a 19 year old in Austrian league doesn’t seem very us. It would it it’s is loaning him back for a year but we need someone now.

I’d love him here as he seems like a top talent but I just don’t see it materialising.
 

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With the state of our strikers (Martial and Ronaldo) and considering the 5 substitution rule, this guy would get a ton of playing time here.
100%, don’t get why a lot of people are saying we don’t need a bench warmer. We need quality depth and if that includes some good players being on the bench then so be it. City have a ton of quality bench warmers. We need a quality squad to compete not just team.
 

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100%, don’t get why a lot of people are saying we don’t need a bench warmer. We need quality depth and if that includes some good players being on the bench then so be it. City have a ton of quality bench warmers. We need a quality squad to compete not just team.
Which is the point that ETH has made several times too, we need squad depth
 

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Don’t know if it’s me being pessimistic but I think our name is being thrown about here with no concrete interest. I think we should be after a forward, but a 19 year old in Austrian league doesn’t seem very us. It would it it’s is loaning him back for a year but we need someone now.

I’d love him here as he seems like a top talent but I just don’t see it materialising.
Murtogh has met his agent, definitely once, rumoured more than once. We signed amad and pellestri of a handful of minutes worth anything. Hannibal hadn't even played first team football. Think it's quite common for us now to be honest!
 

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Fair enough, is the guy doing the names on YouTube wrong then?
Yeah. We do tend to us aa rather than å when we are signing papers abroad or even using our name abroad. But that’s more about å not being used in other lands.

The pronunciation would be as we do it here anyways. But people not using æ ø å will find it hard and they use a o e instead.

It would be correct to pronounce his name H"All"and.
 

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Have you listened to the clip? You’re suggesting it’s more like Hall-land which is similar to @Raees
Not sure I’ll let you guys determine what is best way to say it. In other news I’ve received a DM off Sesko himself on instagram giving some feedback on the video!!
 

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Yeah. We do tend to us aa rather than å when we are signing papers abroad or even using our name abroad. But that’s more about å not being used in other lands.

The pronunciation would be as we do it here anyways. But people not using æ ø å will find it hard and they use a o e instead.

It would be correct to pronounce his name H"All"and.
Thanks for clarifying, every days a school day. Apologies to @Raees

I’m off to call YouTube guy names he can’t pronounce
 

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Not sure I’ll let you guys determine what is best way to say it. In other news I’ve received a DM off Sesko himself on instagram giving some feedback on the video!!
Wow! That’s fantastic! Does that also mean he’s reading Redcafe?

JOIN US SESKO!!
 

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Fair enough, is the guy doing the names on YouTube wrong then?
Yeah, he is.
Haaland was originally named Håland, but he changed the norwegian å to aa (which has the exact same pronunciation in norwegian) because of his international football career.
Å and aa are pronounced, as acquire me says, as the a in the word all.
The letter L should be pronounced slightly different than the L’s in all though.
 

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How does it not make sense? We have an injury prone martial who had been out of form for more than a year, looked more like himself in preseason but pulled a hamstring, and a nearly 38 year old. How do we NOT need to increase the depth there. He’s 19 he won’t expect to play every match
That price for a pure striker when we have 2 others who play the lone striker position? I'm all for sesko, but if he comes, to me that's clearly a Ronaldo replacement. I could see us signing him and loaning him back for a year, but the only reason he would come now would be to replace Ronaldo imo. I just don't see having more than 2 players in 1 position as a smart tactic, you always end up with unhappy players. And we have other areas to address before we reach that point.
 
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