Sacced a pawn twice in the opening, Carlsen is becoming more theoretical with age.
Doesn't seem to look that great today though after ...Nac5
Doesn't seem to look that great today though after ...Nac5
Carlsen vs Nepomniachi
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Think it's a bit of a myth he wasn't theoretical anyway, he has a pretty deep understanding of most openings and has largely played solid stuff for years in classical chess.
Looks slightly worse to my eyes in this game, maybe Nepo can push for something.
Looks slightly worse to my eyes in this game, maybe Nepo can push for something.
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That ending is disappointing, only realised these past few months now that I started to play chess more frequently that going for draws like this is even allowed. When I learned how to play chess with my dad 20 years ago or so he never allowed me to repeat moves, so I thought that's not allowed.
When someone goes for this on chess.com I want to find him and punch him.
Two replies! This might be a new record for a donkeyfish thread, glad there's awards coming up soon.
Oh yeah I agree, he's always had great knowledge of opening lines - but there was a few years he seemed to try and get what many called non-theoretical positions where the idea was to get an equal position where he could outsmart his opponent rather than getting lots of pressure straight out of the opening.
Oh yeah I agree, he's always had great knowledge of opening lines - but there was a few years he seemed to try and get what many called non-theoretical positions where the idea was to get an equal position where he could outsmart his opponent rather than getting lots of pressure straight out of the opening.
That's pretty common at top level. It's a bit anticlimatic at times watching classical chess because the outcome so often is that they find a repetition and drawsTweet
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That ending is disappointing, only realised these past few months now that I started to play chess more frequently that going for draws like this is even allowed. When I learned how to play chess with my dad 20 years ago or so he never allowed me to repeat moves, so I thought that's not allowed.
When someone goes for this on chess.com I want to find him and punch him.
Thats cuz chess is for little bitches that can't get clunge.
I only know Chess at the most basic level, what does it mean when you use the term non-theoretical? Like not established openings etc?
I can make a tic-tac-toe thread you might feel more comfortable posting in
How about those rooks then aye. Very rookish if you axe me
Yes, some openings require that you memorize more moves than other openings.
The essence is that computers are much better at chess than humans, so you look at how the computer play and memorize the first moves. So very complicated positions early on typically come from the computer, and is roughly what people mean when they say that something is "theoretical"
Ah that's really interesting, cheers for the info!
Can't. I'm too busy nailing your wife.
Nice try but I know you're lying since she always has a headache.
What an absolute treat, to get such an open fight in the second game already.
Yeah it's a proper for fight, bodes well for the match overall if the games gonna be like this.
Interesting game today
How/where are you guys watching or following this?
How/where are you guys watching or following this?
There are like half a dozen streams with (former) elite players as commentators for the English speaking audience alone.
This one caters a bit more to people, who aren't that deep into chess:
I'm watching the YT chess24 stream with that young German girl Sonja Bluhm and Rustam Kasimjanov, I like it more than some streams I used to have in earlier years
I initially thought she would be too much on the "OMG" teenie side but in combination with the guy it's pretty ok
I'm watching Polgar and Giri on chess24 stream, which is decent
But your team sounds a bit more impressive I guess..
Their combined rating isn't as high as Polgar/Giri or Svidler/Kramnik, but the lady is still 2300 rated and Kasimdzhanov is a former world champion and worked as a second. So I have no doubt that stream is very good on the chess side as well. In the end it's all about whose style you like more.
Mine two are talking a lot of random and often silly stuff between, but the commenting on the chess is for one, possible for me to follow (not too complicated and hasting into variations of variations where I don't know where the hell they went) and I like Kasimjanov's analysis and judgement very much
Next game I'm gonna try a different one probably, to see who's style I like the best
I mean if you only cover one one classical game at a time you either drown the viewers in countless deep and purely hypothetical calculations or you keep it a bit lighter and put on guests or small talk. There's not really a way around that. For example when you watch a Svidler/Gustafsson stream, their analysis of the chess is quite methodical, but at some point they are guaranteed to delve into trash TV discussions.
I like for example, that exactly when Carlsen made the moves which the engine judged as clearly weak, Kasimjanov said that he would choose to jump in at white because he'd be more happy with it, as black was a very difficult position to play.
The best commentators are often those not relying so much on the engine, and think about the position instead. Much more insightful
I think that's what everyone would say. Most/all commentators only use engines sporadically, to verify concrete calculations or to find some inspiration in complex situations. But they don't live by the evaluation number, because they know that what the engine says is irrelevant, if the moves are too subtle or require too much accuracy for a human to execute. And when you have these commentators, who are 2700 rated themselves, they have a pretty good idea what is likely to be spotted at the board and what isn't.
Another remis eh
But a very exciting one though
The official stream with Anand isn't bad either. I reckon Carlsen will grind Nepo down over 14 games and win with +2.. I'd like him to lose though.. just to see how pissed he will be and how he will crush everybody after
Bread and butter for me, this.
Almost perfect from both sides today. I get that people like to call this boring, it's all prep etc, but it's pretty fascinating how they manage to play more or less exactly like the computer for hours on end.
It's time to add an empty middle file to chess
Dull game today, surely a draw anytime now.
So much for all the hype before the match that Nepomniachi is a more aggressive player than previous challengers and that this might lead to more deceisive games. Draw festival so far, even less action than in the first 4 games between Caruana and Carlsen.
Extreme enthusiasts might enjoy this but surely FIDE has to change something if this goes the same way as three years ago.
Extreme enthusiasts might enjoy this but surely FIDE has to change something if this goes the same way as three years ago.
I think the first 2 games were draws but exciting, game 3 was well played by both and there were always some possibilities if one player slipped up. Today seemed to me like the only super dull draw, where the out of the opening everything was miniscule only a howler by either player would've provided a decisive result.
In general I agree though, it's so much more exciting to follow the WC when one player is ahead/behind. Creates a different level of tension. Now it's kind of a stalemate.
What happens if there is no clear winner after 14 matches
"Extra time".
First they play a number of rapid games, which is 15 minutes on the clock with 10 seconds extra per move (roughly, might be slightly different). Think they then play best out of 4 games.
If still equal, they repeat by playing blits, which is 3 minutes + 2 second increment.
Finally, they play Armageddon. Where white gets more time on the clock than black, but if it's a draw black wins.
First they play a number of rapid games, which is 15 minutes on the clock with 10 seconds extra per move (roughly, might be slightly different). Think they then play best out of 4 games.
If still equal, they repeat by playing blits, which is 3 minutes + 2 second increment.
Finally, they play Armageddon. Where white gets more time on the clock than black, but if it's a draw black wins.
Shorter time controls I suppose?