@panzReally like him. For some reason, he reminds me of Vidic.
I like his aggressive determination to affect the game. I feel our cbs are too passive
What I didn’t see from this video is his heading ability
@panzReally like him. For some reason, he reminds me of Vidic.
I don’t disagree with any of that, but if the chance to sign a top notch cb came along then we should tryI have very mixed feelings myself. On one hand Jones and Smalling had been here long enough for us to judge that they are not United's first team level. If you put these guys alongside the various Stam, Johnsen, Rio and Vidic they will stick out like a sore thumb. On the other hand they aren't as shit as many portray them to be. In my opinion they stick in that grey area between first team and utility players. My biggest issue about the two is that they are growing old and yet they still seem to make mistakes 18 year olds do. Don't take me wrong, they aren't retiring anytime soon. However at this point in time, maturity should kick in to compensate to the slow decline physical aspects of their game. There's little maturity/football brain power in those two.
If you ask me, unless Skirniar becomes available (top quality CBs are too rare to be passed on) then I believe that United should tackle other matter first. You can't really judge your CB's pair when they are partnered with wingers as full backs and the midfield has just 1 DM and is usually played alongside an attacking midfielder in a 2 men midfield. I'd say keep the pair, strengthen the full backs positions, bring in some solid quality defensive midfield pair (Jorginho and Dier would be my favourites), play Lindelof more and send Tuanzebe on loan to a decent EPL side. That would stabilise the midfield which would allow the defence and our attack to focus on what they do best.
Then in summer 2019 we should be asking the right questions. Had Smalling/Jones improved? Is Lindelof good enough for first team? If not can Tuanzebe replace them (even in a reserve player role)? Should we move Dier in CB? Should we add a new CB? That sort of questions
Don't think we need one. There are many more pressing issues.
Yeah I noticed that as well, was doing my nut in and against yeovil of all teams.I’m not sure if it’s due to instructions or not, but Rojo’s literally just been smashing the ball up to Lukaku all season. I’m not sure why because he can obviously bring the ball out better than most of our centre backs.
thats what I just saidI don’t disagree with any of that, but if the chance to sign a top notch cb came along then we should try
I don't think Dier will ever be a Keane for us but that's not what we need. What we need are players who fit into roles we need. Currently we needOh and I’m not convinced by Dier
I’d take Sandro over tierney, otherwise you may as well keep Shawthats what I just said
I don't think Dier will ever be a Keane for us but that's not what we need. What we need are players who fit into roles we need. Currently we need
- a regista (or defensive deep lying playmaker). Herrera had failed to make that role his hence why we're relying on Fellaini (whose hardly great in the role either and will leave next summer)
- a cover for Matic. No player should be expected to play week in week out throughout the entire campaign, especially considering Matic role and his age (he still has 3 good years in him but he'll need rest)
Considering our 'luck' in defence we should have someone who can slot there and do the job too.
Dier might not be first team level yet but he covers all the three roles in a very decent way. His past experience as CB allows him not only to understand what CBs desire from their DM but also to slot in defence if needed.
If I was Mourinho and I'm forced to sign just 3 signings then my choice would be Jorginho (top quality regista), Dier and Tierney (a very talented but 'old fashioned' type of full back who would give us a different style of game to Shaw and can also slot as RB if needed)
The problem is that Bailly is a sick note. He hardly plays, so cannot be relied upon.I'm happy with Jones. Need the Jones-Bailly partnership back again.
18 goals conceded in 25 games, I don't think Mourinho will buy a centre back.
Sandro would just stream roll over Shaw. Also the money needed to get Sandro could be better spent somewhere else. Tierney will provide competition without ruining Shaw's chance for a first team place. Unlike Sandro, Tierney offers something different to Shaw as he's more defensive minded and a typical 'old fashioned' full back. If Shaw and Mitchell do well, we can move Tierney on the right as well.I’d take Sandro over tierney, otherwise you may as well keep Shaw
We really need better ones to be fair
Isn't he 33 or in Cafe terms 51?If we sign another CB we need to get shut of a couple. Let’s sell Smalling and cut out losses with Lindelof (he has no attributes that will make him great, at best he’ll be similar to what we already have), we need a CB with experience that’s top quality, so let’s try and get Bonucci.
Lol 30 but yes that’s 50 on the caf!Isn't he 33 or in Cafe terms 51?
I'm concerned about the amount of sick time that Bailly seems to have...but I'm certain that he is our future CB for years to come.Would take Raphael Varane.
Not unlikely. I think Jose will be thinking about it. Bailly is good but let's face it, he's looking more and more like injury prone. We could have a Vincent Kompany on our hands and rumours have it that Jose is not particularly patient with players who stay too long injured. Smalling is a decent defender if you want someone who just hacks the ball away. Someone whose sole thought as a defender is to keep the ball away from goal. That's fine but only to an extent. Such players are very vulnerable when put under pressure by the opposition because they usually lack ball playing skills. They are also not particularly great in adding an edge to your attack. The modern day CB has moved away from being a Smalling to being a Ramos, a Pique, a Boateng or an Alderweireld. These are players who don't just work hard to keep the opposition from scoring or hack the ball away when under pressure but also move the ball well from defence to attack. Jones is very much like Smalling. You get the impression that he is decent when it comes to pure defending but average or poor when it comes to retaining the ball, combining well with the midfield and generally playing a key role in moving the ball from defence into attacking positions. Moreover, the jury is still out on his fitness. Lindelof has been shaky for too long. Maybe he will come good, maybe not. Very few people seem sure. Rojo was brilliant before his injury. He was arguably our most improved player. I think he has it in him to be a great CB although you tend to think he always has a red card in him. But can't the same be said about Ramos who is one of the world's best CBs?Signing yet another CB is extremely unlikely.
Is Škriniar that good? I have not seen much of him, in fact all I've seen of him is that scoutnation video and he looked really clumsy, not really agile.Škriniar and Bailly would be a monstrous partnership. If there's anyway we can make it happen with De Gea behind them. We'd be a freakish side.
Honestly don't mind who we offload as a CB as long as we make the above happen. If we can't sign Škriniar don't bother buying another CB.