Jussie Smollett | found guilty of false reporting
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Something is still fishy with his account of what happened.
The case is sealed from public record
He had 16 charges against him
What about the two brothers that were involved?
He had 16 charges against him
What about the two brothers that were involved?
DAs drop charges when their is a low percentage chance of conviction. There will be many potential reasons for this.
I never want to see his name or face again
Still. Shows up a lot of caftards who jumped the gun in that other thread...
The amount of secrecy in public office in 2019 is staggering
Summary of why they were dropped? My outrage is about spent today so can't be arsed to read the reports.
Hardly. The police superintendent basically calls it bullshit
So it's the right thing to do then? Form an opinion when things are still being investigated? What stage are we at now? Double down?
Just own it. I would... In fact I often do.
Very unusual case. I've never such a high publicity case with the superintendent basically vilifying him in the press while the investigation was ongoing. Now they are left with egg on their face. The entire thing was a farce and the Chicago PD handled it poorly.
It's not his place, though, right? Police are not the court/the persecution.
Although I too would love to know why it has been dropped. It's strange.
I can smell a lawsuit coming.
Also, can't he sue the people who wrote him off from Empire now?
well yeah - it's a serious risk to a fair trial to have international press being told the person is guilty before a trial.
Once again America's messed up system rears it's head. Why politicise a supposedly neutral position in the government..
Indeed... Nobody has a clue what is going on right now. Let's see what happens...
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Money for justice, then.
Have you read the post above this one?
seems like it wouldn't be a sensible thing to do if the police's account was remotely accurate.
1st amendment makes defamation difficult in the US- basically would have to prove the account false and prove malicious intent, plus it would be massively embarrassing to have the facts of the case brought up in front of court with the world watching on cheering or jeering each side..
The point I made in the original thread, was that people should wait for the facts (and we're' still waiting) before forming a hard opinion and arguing it. I'm reiterating it....
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I've seen the post now, dunno what to make of it.
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Why?
That state's attorney notice above basically says the evidence was good, but that given that he has no criminal record, and forked 10k to the city of Chicago, they would rather spend their (limited) resources elsewhere, namely "violent crime".
In no way it regards him as innocent, I'd actually argue the opposite.
What a time to be alive
Hardly shows them up, does it? He's accepted a 10k fine and community service, the superintendent calls it an injustice, and the prosecutor has stated there was absolutely no issue with the evidence provided and it in no way exonerates him.
But yet here we are. I saw that post, personally I'm none the wiser.... What can I say? It's fishy as feck...
SO they cleared him of the charges but haven't exonerated him.
No Collusion!
We are here. Conjecture happens on an internet forum, and on the basis of the information we have, the opinion of the people investigating him, the prosecutor for this case, and the acceptance of the fine and community service by the accused, I would say those people are fairly safe in their assumption.
He's obviously guilty as feck of all charges but the PD totally fecked it all up.
Firstly by leaking stuff to the press. Then going out in front of the media and affirming Smollett was guilty and what his motives were, seemingly without any statement of guilt from him.
I assumed when I first saw the police chief's press conference that Smollett had basically given himself up, but no. That was just moronic police letting their emotions prejudice the case. Now they obviously feel they have no choice but to offer some plea deal and hush it all up.
Firstly by leaking stuff to the press. Then going out in front of the media and affirming Smollett was guilty and what his motives were, seemingly without any statement of guilt from him.
I assumed when I first saw the police chief's press conference that Smollett had basically given himself up, but no. That was just moronic police letting their emotions prejudice the case. Now they obviously feel they have no choice but to offer some plea deal and hush it all up.
Its the American way pal!
For those of you not familiar with the US - Cook County is basically the most corrupt county in the entire country. It is well known, so any weird dealings that go on there, shouldn't really surprise anyone.
I once worked for a company based in Cook County. Our contracts were at least 10 pages long and contained all kinds of legalese - most of my customers were willing to look past most things in the contract except one item. That item was that any dispute would be handled or tried in Cook County. This stipulation was an absolute no go for 99.9% of my customers. They would give up favorable payment terms just to get the Cook County part out of the contract.
I once worked for a company based in Cook County. Our contracts were at least 10 pages long and contained all kinds of legalese - most of my customers were willing to look past most things in the contract except one item. That item was that any dispute would be handled or tried in Cook County. This stipulation was an absolute no go for 99.9% of my customers. They would give up favorable payment terms just to get the Cook County part out of the contract.
That superintendent reminds of The Wire, I really want to watch again.
The prosecutor who was texting jussie’s family member is involved in dropping all the charges but looks like she opened a can of worms and her office may be investigated by FBI because some corruption allegations.
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Back in the day only straight white men could use money and power to avoid the long arm of the law. Now even black gay men can use their influence and wealth to get out of indictments. #progress
They chose the exact moment the Mueller report dropped to reduce the noise on this one.