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Chelsea 2022/2023 | THIS IS LAST YEARS THREAD YOU NUMPTIES
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Seems like this will suit all parties.
We need to put out feelers for Reece and Kovacic.
Indeed. I'm quite sure the Boehly consortium would have this factored into their project plan & set aside a good 100-200m to pay for FFP violation fines over the next few years. It's still only 2.50-5.00% of the total cost of the project. If doing so means getting results faster, why not, even if it means missing Europe for a year or two?
With all that said and done, I truly cannot see this as being a sustainable business approach. It does not look like they have a better squad, manager or an approach to football at the end of the day. Everything about them is just a boat load of noise off the pitch.
They gonna get enzo and might put in a bid for caicedo too in the summer to replace their kante. Realistically speaking, that would be an insane amount of talent in the squad. How do we even compete against such?
No, it's just a book thing. Let's say you sign a player for 5 years. How the money is paid is negotiated between the two clubs. Could be entirely upfront, or spread over 20 years. This impacts "cash".
However, the annual cost of "using" the player is spread over 5 years (this is called amortization). This impacts "profit".
Yeah. These 2 are not getting sold.
Not happy selling Jorgi to Arsenal, even for £12 mil.
Just read that Chelsea are looking to hijack Jorghino's move to Arsenal!
Midfield of Casemiro, Kovacic and Eriksen does not represent good long term value. Would be a similar situation to Liverpool squad that hits a high for maybe a season or two and then the drop off would be monumental with an ageing team. I've no idea for the same reasons why fans are interested in the likes of Kane. The club need to be resourceful building for the future, not signing players who are closer to being past their peak.
Getting £12m for a guy that was leaving for free anyway and saving on his wages is a good deal. Hate that he’s going to Arsenal but he could have gone there as a free agent anyway.
Reece is an incredible player but a total crock, unfortunately. There's a reason why Chelsea have just bought Malo Gusto.
Pretty crazy that if they do purchase Enzo, they will have spent over €600m in 6 months. How is anyone meant to match that? They haven't even sold €80m of players either.
This should also put to bed the argument that making transfers in the winter transfer window is difficult.
| Players In | Club | Transfer Amount |
|---|---|---|
| Wesley Fofana | Leicester | €80.40m |
| Mykhaylo Mudryk | Shakhtar D. | €70.00m |
| Marc Cucurella | Brighton | €65.30m |
| Raheem Sterling | Man City | €56.20m |
| Benoît Badiashile | Monaco | €38.00m |
| Kalidou Koulibaly | SSC Napoli | €38.00m |
| Noni Madueke | PSV Eindhoven | €35.00m |
| Malo Gusto | Olympique Lyon | €30.00m |
| Carney Chukwuemeka | Aston Villa | €18.00m |
| Andrey Santos | Vasco da Gama | €12.50m |
| David Datro Fofana | Molde | €12.00m |
| Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang | Barcelona | €12.00m |
| João Félix | Atlético Madrid | Loan fee: €11.00m |
| Gabriel Slonina | Chicago | €9.09m |
| Denis Zakaria | Juventus | Loan fee: €3.00m |
| €490.49m |
This should also put to bed the argument that making transfers in the winter transfer window is difficult.
That level of spending is unlikely to continue in the summer now that the 25 year contracts loophole is getting blocked.
Doesn't include Nkunku either, which seems to be a done deal.
That doesn't matter really given they've done it and looking like getting away with no FFP penalty.
Forgot about him, fecking hell.
Way too early to be sure, but that 150m spent on Cucu, Sterling, Koulibaly looks like money poorly spent.. squad players at best.
Auba too. waste of money. Felix too considering its unlikely to help them get into the CL and he leaves (unless they go on some crazy run)
Ignoring the Jan transfer window, that is not an impressive hit rate.
People have been taking the p*ss out of Boehly and their spending, but in a few years I think we could all be saying this was the turning point for them. They've signed some cracking young players and have a few other youngsters in and around the first team who look good. And there's even more quality still to arrive in Nkunku and these other signings they're looking at making.
Liverpool and City will not stay down long, they'll invest again and sort themselves out. Hopefully we can finally get our act together or else that gap will open up again pretty quickly. Especially if Arsenal are looking at big money signings also.
Liverpool and City will not stay down long, they'll invest again and sort themselves out. Hopefully we can finally get our act together or else that gap will open up again pretty quickly. Especially if Arsenal are looking at big money signings also.
Yes but the point being it’s not sustainable to continue doing it from next summer. They’ve done it now and yes probably got away with it.
But I personally don’t think it’s blown other teams away with the insane spending. From the potential 700m spent there’s only Mudryk and Enzo that would be stand out signings for me. A lot of the money has been splashed poorly.
I do agree with the point that it is probably a big turning point for Chelsea.
I’m not sure why there seems to be a perception amongst some fans that Boehly is just playing at a casino splashing cash at anything. Boehly probably has no clue about any of these players that they are signing. He’s obviously got a team in place who know what they’re doing and trusts them to then back them up in their judgment by executing the chequebook.
He is gambling in a way, that the players actually fit in and that he has backed the manager and Potter can turn all these players into a winning outfit.
It’s obviously a huge gamble but I guess there’s a big risk with any change of ownership, manager and playing squad. Chelsea just happen to have changed all 3 at the same time!
In the summer, Chelsea could probably change the team name and there would be no reminisce left from Chelsea a couple of years ago.
If we're willing to overpay to a level where no other club is willing to, any transfer is easy.
If you don't qualify for CL, and are having issues with FFP, then Reece is a good option to cash on, now that you have two backups in Gusto and Chalobah.
Wouldn't Enzo play in Kovacic's place?
Who do you think they've overpaid for? Madueke might be the only one given he's had severe injury problems, but he's a top prospect and got that English tax.
James is in line to become the next captain now that Jorginho is off and Azpi will likely follow him out of the door in the summer.
At least there is not a great a risk of them being The Chelsea Pensioners now.
James is the absolute last player the club would look to cash in on, no matter what happens with CL qualification and FFP. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.
On a contract till 2028 too.
Enzo would be the primary ball playing midfielder in the team so basically a replacement for Jorginho. Enzo and Kovacic are nothing alike so I doubt playing one would rule out the other.
That said, Kovacic deal is up in 2024 so unlike @SirReginald I think selling him in the summer could be a possibility but I think the club's first choice plan would be to extend him.
The 85m for Mudryk & 105m for Enzo both are very risky deals.
Enzo is clearly talented, but is he that good to break the English transfer record - 6 months after he was purchased for a 12th of that? How much of this 105m is the World Cup performance tax? What's the precedence for a central midfielder who has gone for a similar amount? Pogba by us in 2016?
For Mudryk, who is also clearly talented, Arsenal matched their fixed fee (62m) but had tighter conditions on the variable. Chelsea effectively paid an additional 25m on top of that. If Chelsea hadn't come in, he'd have cost effective 60m and been playing for Arsenal.
Did we buy Robin Van Persie at his peak? He was 29.
I fail to understand this fixation with age: Karim Benzema is 34, Lewandoski the same I believe.... how old was Ibra' when he arrived and easily the best player, let alone forward that we had, smashing in goals for fun.
And where are all these great young No 9's??? I don't see them, and the boy at Napoli seems great, but I am not sure we play the same way as they do, and I think he may need some time. So a bit of a gamble.
Seems some fans are seeking the perfect player, age, talent etc... where a squad has to be responsive to who is available, and balance age, talent, experience... I can't believe some on here do not think Conor Gallagher would be a decent signing for example. Why not?
There are v good players who cannot hold down a place in a starting XI and some of us seem to overlook them, even though we have the craziest of game schedules coming, and Ericksen is currently injured!
Mudryk's bonuses are tied to us winning the CL and PL with him contributing. Arsenal proposed a structure where he had to finish high in the Ballon d'Or voting.
If we're winning those sorts of trophies regularly the prize money will offset Mudryk's bonuses anyhow - and he'll have been worth the extra dosh.
Only for people who don’t understand the difference between the words “difficult” and “impossible”.
Shakhtar's CEO confirmed all of the bonuses (£25M) in our deal for Mudryk are tied to winning the PL or the UCL. Not qualifying to the UCL but actually winning it.
No idea what Arsenal's clauses were but ours seem to be about as strict as they come and will only be triggered if we're really succesful in the next years so it's only "effectively 88M" if you truly, honestly believe we will be winning league titles and UCLs. If we do win these trophies whether Mudryk playing a big part in it or not I couldn't really give a feck how much he cost.
He didn’t say all but Chelsea aren’t winning the league before Arsenal so it’s weird is being framed as more attainable for Chelsea. That would be an easier clause for Arsenal to insert
With 2 more added players, that's an entire first XI, plus your 5 subs in 2 transfer windows. Insane spending and shouldn't be allowed but it is what it is. Given the Premierleague squad limit is 25 (excl U21s), I've no idea how they are going to register all these new players plus the current squad.
Good luck to Potter though keeping everyone happy and trying to find out what your core 8 players will be out of a squad of 30+ players
True, maybe they are planning to play him as a striker. LW is definitely too crowded and I think Mudryk will make it his place after a while, although am not quite sure that even at Chelsea they know how the team will look next season (or who will be the coach). The next few months will probably look as an audition for first 11.
Hence why they didn't - their bonuses were tied to Ballon d'Or voting and apparently winning the CL. Shakhtar's CEO said they consider Chelsea to be more likely to win the CL in the near future versus Arsenal despite it looking dubious we'll even be in it next year.
Source? I thought they matched each others fixed fees but Chelsea had more realistic conditions. I'm not sure the Mudryk deal qualifies as a bid that no other club would match as clearly Arsenal were right there alongside Chelsea. We'll see about Enzo, it's an awful lot of money to pay for him but then who could really argue given he's a world cup winner and was attracting the interest of the biggest clubs in Europe. But yeah, i'd say they're overpaying for him, if it gets completed.
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