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What? Why wouldn't he? He'll be available on a free transfer. Aaron Ramsey just got ludicrous money because he was on a free, and probably a huge signing on bonus to boot. Why would United be paying far more than other clubs, especially ones like PSG?

He has a good relationship with us, but not to the point where he'll turn down the chance to earn millions more because he can basically get a transfer fee as a signing on bonus. He doesn't love us that much.
You don’t have to be out of contract to get a signing on bonus, you know? To what we are willing to pay top talent in this moment in time? No. Again, if he’s available for 60mil and money is no object, he’d be at Juve right now. He isn’t . Tell me, where is PSG getting these wages from? They’re fecked if they can’t move on players already on colossal wages. Adding another colossal wage isn’t going to help.

It should tell you all you need to know that he’s still at your club right now. This after he literally said he’d like something to happen this window.
 

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He probably doesn't want to injure himself in a pre-season game when the potential was still there for a summer move. And regardless of whether he's checked out of spurs mentally (potentially he has) that doesn't stop him running down only one more year of his contract and then moving on.

Massively levelling up? In terms of wages and club size, sure. But he's also stepping down to the Europa League and moving to a club where the top two trophies (league, cl) are not a realistic possibility in the near future.
Yeah you're clutching now

As for the EL it's not like we're EL regulars is it. We had 1 season in the competition under Mourinho and now we're about to embark on our 2nd that's 2 seasons in the last 6 we've been in the competition. In the same time period we've been in the UCL 3 times including the last two years in a row. Not the UCL regulars we once were but hardly a EL team like Arsenal have become (3 years in a row for them now)
 

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Yeah sure, 2 years back everyone was predicting Liverpool to win CL. It was so easy to predict the future.
Anything can happen in football and we don't know how United will develop going forward but realistically right now you don't look like competing for the two major trophies. Hence why it would be a far bigger gamble going to you than it would one of the European giants who are already at that level.
 

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No English club can compete with Barca and Real, none. When we were on top and Real weren't, they took Ronaldo. They have a duopoly to maintain this status quo to the detriment of the league.

Imagine if we only had two out of the top 6 that were elite with a bunch of also rans. Those two teams would become magical with all the success and world class oozing out of them.

We have a much better league, with a more even spread of talent and the tv money.
Yes, we know Real is the primary destination for a large contingent of players across Europe and Barca to an extent. But the point is, we're not as far behind them as certain oppos on this forum would have you believe. Our recent big-name signings over the last five years prove that.

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That's another thing, why are Real and Barca even a part of this discussion when neither club has shown the slightest interest in acquiring his signature?
 

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Yeah you're clutching now

As for the EL it's not like we're EL regulars is it. We had 1 season in the competition under Mourinho and now we're about to embark on our 2nd that's 2 seasons in the last 6 we've been in the competition. In the same time period we've been in the UCL 3 times including the last two years in a row. Not the UCL regulars we once were but hardly a EL team like Arsenal have become (3 years in a row for them now)
How is that clutching? Players not going all out in pre-season friendlies when he potentially might be moving is something which fecking happens.

You've been in an out of the CL multiple times since Fergie. You're not 'EL regulars' but like you say, you're not CL regulars either .. which is what a player of Eriksen's calibre will want.
 

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That's another thing, why are Real and Barca even a part of this discussion when neither club has shown the slightest interest in acquiring his signature?

They haven't shown interesting in signing him because neither currently have a lot of transfer funds this window, having spent a shit ton.

Next season though, when he's on a free? You don't think they'll be interested then? Along with other elite clubs like PSG?
 

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Anything can happen in football and we don't know how United will develop going forward but realistically right now you don't look like competing for the two major trophies. Hence why it would be a far bigger gamble going to you than it would one of the European giants who are already at that level.

Yeah but when he is available for smaller fee and they haven't showed much interest, don't think he is dreaming of elite clubs. For all we know, they don't rate him as highly as PL clubs.
 

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You are focused on one half of the equation, wages and monetary gain. There is also that little problem of trophies, and in our current rebuilding process it's not something we can guarantee. Certainly not on the level of RM, Barca, Juve.

I guess at a stretch as a third or fourth option for Eriksen I can kind of see it. But some things still dont add up, he could just wait out another year at Spurs, he is out of contract and a free agent and can orchestrate a move to one of the Spanish giants or Juventus. Hell if he just wanted wages he could go warm City's bench and pocket a fortune, probably win a trophy or two as well.
My point was about wages, hence why my response was about wages. He could well decide to wait, but United being a potential option isn’t outside the realms of possibility as is begin made out.

Could he orchestrate a move there? Why isn’t there now? Who is he going to replace? All three clubs have had massive windows and yet Eriksen wasn’t a part of it. If these massive clubs have apparently limitless pockets then paying £60mil would be no big deal. Eriksen has said he wants to get something sorted this summer. We are possibly willing to move this summer. This isn’t as ridiculous as you’d like to think it is.
 

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They haven't shown interesting in signing him because neither currently have a lot of transfer funds this window, having spent a shit ton.

Next season though, when he's on a free? You don't think they'll be interested then? Along with other elite clubs like PSG?
All three are whoring out players in an attempt to balance their books. Where are they getting this money from? It’s no certainty as you are trying to make out.
 

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Jack Pitt-Brooke answering questions on the Athletic saying Spurs have offered around 50M for Bruno and Sporting want 70M so a sale of Eriksen for 50M would give them the needed funds.
 

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All three are whoring out players in an attempt to balance their books. Where are they getting this money from? It’s no certainty as you are trying to make out.
Even if that's true it makes sense to wait it out and then consider all the options he has on the table, rather than jump ship to United now when they're the only club prepared to pay a big fee for a player about to be available on a free.
 

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Even if that's true it makes sense to wait it out and then consider all the options he has on the table, rather than jump ship to United now when they're the only club prepared to pay a big fee for a player about to be available on a free.
And what if one tackle ends his career? Players as much as they want big wages, they also want future sorted and with proper cover for years.
 

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Yeah but when he is available for smaller fee and they haven't showed much interest, don't think he is dreaming of elite clubs. For all we know, they don't rate him as highly as PL clubs.
Why would they show interest? 50-60M for a player now, or wait till next year when he's a free and compete then?

The other elite clubs aren't as desperate for him as United are. They're prepared to miss out on him but that doesn't mean they won't be interested if he's on a free next summer.

And again, even if they aren't .. from Eriksen's perspective it makes perfect sense to wait till next summer and then see what offers do come in, and make a decision then. He'll hold all the cards.
 

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So then why aren’t you?

Or why aren’t you signing them?

Harsh reality but this squad is faaaaaar away from a collection of the worlds best footballing talents.
I won’t win this.

I point out we have De Gea. You’ll say he nearly joined Madrid like 5 years ago.

I point out we have Paul Pogba. You’ll say he wants to leave.

England’s best CB joins us, you’ll just say it’s cause Man City dropped out.

We do, but on pitch performances need to reflect it
 

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And what if one tackle ends his career? Players as much as they want big wages, they also want future sorted and with proper cover for years.
That's a risk, but it's one players do seem to be taking now, Ramsey took that risk and he's far more injury prone than Eriksen ever has been. Toby is doing the exact same thing.

Personally I think he'll be prepared to see out the year and then evaluate his options. I'm not particularly happy with that situation because it means we'll have an unmotivated player on our books, as I said earlier I'd honestly rather he did go to United and we replaced him this summer, I just don't think it's remotely possible. I think we'll have a 'meh' Eriksen for a season who will fanny out of challenges and put in only the bare minimum of effort.
 

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Even if that's true it makes sense to wait it out and then consider all the options he has on the table, rather than jump ship to United now when they're the only club prepared to pay a big fee for a player about to be available on a free.
Yup. And assuming Eriksen can get a pre-contract in January at least as good as Aaron Ramsey's 400K per week, any deal now with United means either that (a) Eriksen is taking a substantial cut from what he could make in five months or (b) United is paying a stupid amount of money for a player of Eriksen's caliber if they're giving him that 400K per week plus paying a 50-60m transfer fee. At that point their annual amortized costs on Eriksen are higher than their costs on Sanchez.

There is literally no possible deal to be made right now that is rational for both Eriksen and a purchasing club, unless the transfer fee is a real pittance (like 15-20m). And my suspicion is that Levy would rather keep Eriksen and let him leave for nothing than accept a paltry 15-20m fee.
 

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You pulled out of the Dybala deal because the player wasn't particularly interested in joining United and so made huge demands in terms of wages/signing on fee etc. That's what nearly all the reports are saying.
Nope, Dybala is fine with the fees, we offered more than what he wanted. But he has a lawsuit with previous agents who are asking for 40m GBP and that's a problem. That will actually be a problem with any club in the world, not just United.
 

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That's a risk, but it's one players do seem to be taking now, Ramsey took that risk and he's far more injury prone than Eriksen ever has been. Toby is doing the exact same thing.

Personally I think he'll be prepared to see out the year and then evaluate his options. I'm not particularly happy with that situation because it means we'll have an unmotivated player on our books, as I said earlier I'd honestly rather he did go to United and we replaced him this summer, I just don't think it's remotely possible. I think we'll have a 'meh' Eriksen for a season who will fanny out of challenges and put in only the bare minimum of effort.
In any case, good. If he signs then we will get good player. If he leaves on free transfer then Spurs will lose more than 150 million worth of players on free transfer next season.
 

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Even if that's true it makes sense to wait it out and then consider all the options he has on the table, rather than jump ship to United now when they're the only club prepared to pay a big fee for a player about to be available on a free.
He said he wants to sort it this window. Why ignore that part? There’s also a possibility these big clubs can’t afford him or switch targets before next window, or he has a serious injury, or that he does want the club to get a fee for him - this does happen. I’m not saying he’ll definitely move to us, far from it, put it isn’t outside the realms of possibility as you we suggesting. There’s some very real reasons for this deal to happen.
 

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They haven't shown interesting in signing him because neither currently have a lot of transfer funds this window, having spent a shit ton.

Next season though, when he's on a free? You don't think they'll be interested then? Along with other elite clubs like PSG?
Unless I've got him all wrong, Eriksen doesn't strike me as the type to go as far as refuse an offer from United (and a highly lucrative one at that) in favour spending another year at Spurs, likely winning nothing in the process, before making his dream move to Madrid. Plus, in doing so, costing the club that made him what he is today an obscene amount of money.

He'd be joining United, one of the biggest clubs in Europe who're currently undertaking a huge rebuilding job of which he would be an integral part of, not Acrington Stanley. Plus the money. Lots and lots of money.
 

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Why would they show interest? 50-60M for a player now, or wait till next year when he's a free and compete then?

The other elite clubs aren't as desperate for him as United are. They're prepared to miss out on him but that doesn't mean they won't be interested if he's on a free next summer.

And again, even if they aren't .. from Eriksen's perspective it makes perfect sense to wait till next summer and then see what offers do come in, and make a decision then. He'll hold all the cards.
They don't show interest as they don't rate him as highly as PL clubs. Madrid wants midfielder and barely showed any interest in him and they are paying 60 million for Ajax midfielder.
 

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In any case, good. If he signs then we will get good player. If he leaves on free transfer then Spurs will lose more than 150 million worth of players on free transfer next season.
Well yeah, from any perspective it's a shit situation for us.
 

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He said he wants to sort it this window. Why ignore that part? There’s also a possibility these big clubs can’t afford him or switch targets before next window, or he has a serious injury, or that he does want the club to get a fee for him - this does happen. I’m not saying he’ll definitely move to us, far from it, put it isn’t outside the realms of possibility as you we suggesting. There’s some very real reasons for this deal to happen.
Whatever he's said I don't believe that if United are the only club seriously prepared to pay the fee he'll accept that move. I don't think it's really the move he wants .. maybe I'm wrong.

And as for the serious injury/switching targets etc .. like I've said already, there are recent examples of players running down their contracts and I think we'll see it more and more. I think there's next to no chance of the deal happening at this point, even though for us it would probably be better if it did and we got a fee, regardless of the fact it would mean a great player joining a rival for cl football.
 

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Unless I've got him all wrong, Eriksen doesn't strike me as the type to go as far as refuse an offer from United (and a highly lucrative one at that) in favour spending another year at Spurs, likely winning nothing in the process, before making his dream move to Madrid. Plus, in doing so, costing the club that made him what he is today an obscene amount of money.

He'd be joining United, one of the biggest clubs in Europe who're currently undertaking a huge rebuilding job of which he would be an integral part of, not Acrington Stanley. Plus the money. Lots and lots of money.
He'll likely win nothing at United in that year as well, and won't even get to play CL football. Where's the huge difference? Like I've said before, I don't really think he cares whether he costs us money or not.

He's already been part of a project and at this point in his career I imagine he wants the finished deal, or something at least close to it. How many rebuilding jobs have United undergone now? Where's the guarantee this is the one which actually works? He'll get loads of money if he goes on a free as well .. bags and bags of it.

Anyway, I'll leave it there and wait to see what happens. If he moves I'll hold my hands up but I'm 99% sure it simply will not happen.
 

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Well yeah, from any perspective it's a shit situation for us.
I get that it's frustrating for you. I'd imagine its the equivilent of Pogba joining Spurs from United.

Think of it this way, if this deal goes through, you'd have the funds to get Bruno or Le Celso. Shit, both maybe.
 

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Whatever he's said I don't believe that if United are the only club seriously prepared to pay the fee he'll accept that move. I don't think it's really the move he wants .. maybe I'm wrong.

And as for the serious injury/switching targets etc .. like I've said already, there are recent examples of players running down their contracts and I think we'll see it more and more. I think there's next to no chance of the deal happening at this point, even though for us it would probably be better if it did and we got a fee, regardless of the fact it would mean a great player joining a rival for cl football.
There are recent examples of player taking the safer option, of players resigning so the club gets a fee, but you want to dismiss those. What we know is no other club have shown the slightest bit of interest this window. That Eriksen wants to move this window and that Spurs want to sell him this window. It's poppycock to say categorically this isn't happening. POPPYCOCK!
 

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I get that it's frustrating for you. I'd imagine its the equivilent of Pogba joining Spurs from United.

Think of it this way, if this deal goes through, you'd have the funds to get Bruno or Le Celso. Shit, both maybe.
Honestly, like I've said I would prefer the sale. Eriksen going for big money now would be a lot better for us than him walking away with our dick left in our hand. Again it's a deal that imo will simply not happen, it's not that I really don't want it to.

Sell Eriksen now & Bring in Fernandes or Lo Celso = a lot better than hold on to a barely motivated Eriksen for another season and watch him walk away for free, leaving us forced to spend any money we could use to improve the side on plugging gaps.
 

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He'll likely win nothing at United in that year as well, and won't even get to play CL football. Where's the huge difference? Like I've said before, I don't really think he cares whether he costs us money or not.

He's already been part of a project and at this point in his career I imagine he wants the finished deal, or something at least close to it. How many rebuilding jobs have United undergone now? Where's the guarantee this is the one which actually works? He'll get loads of money if he goes on a free as well .. bags and bags of it.

Anyway, I'll leave it there and wait to see what happens. If he moves I'll hold my hands up but I'm 99% sure it simply will not happen.
One more thing, would Eriksen really stitch up Spurs after everything they have done for him?
 

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Been hearing about this from people in work. There's no way Levy will sell us Eriksen.
The rumour was probably started in order to boost Eriksen's value abroad, and also boost his wage demand. It happens all the time with us.
 

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If this has legs we will have to pay a lot to Spurs for him. Im having a hard time seeing it but ok lets say it's real. That 50mil is probably what Levy is quoting continental teams. For a direct rival like us it certainly wont be 50mil, more like 60-70 for us to get Eriksen.

We can agree terms all we like with the player, still have to do the deal at the table with Levy to get it over the line.
 

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I won’t win this.

I point out we have De Gea. You’ll say he nearly joined Madrid like 5 years ago.

I point out we have Paul Pogba. You’ll say he wants to leave.

England’s best CB joins us, you’ll just say it’s cause Man City dropped out.

We do, but on pitch performances need to reflect it
Agreed, this is ridiculous to see those opposition fans thinking we are that bad. I don't even want to talk. Levy will f*** us off on purpose anyway so Eriksen is not happening, but only because of that, and certainly not because he doesn't want to come. The nonsense you can read sometimes when you are blinded by such a fantasy that United would go down... Well it's our fault, we should have been better for the last games of the last season but we're coming back.
 

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If this has legs we will have to pay a lot to Spurs for him. Im having a hard time seeing it but ok lets say it's real. That 50mil is probably what Levy is quoting continental teams. For a direct rival like us it certainly wont be 50mil, more like 60-70 for us to get Eriksen.

We can agree terms all we like with the player, still have to do the deal at the table with Levy to get it over the line.
I don't think we would recoil at £70m for Eriksen. It's in Levy's best interest to sell him ASAP.
 

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One more thing, would Eriksen really stitch up Spurs after everything they have done for him?
Yes. Players are wankers.

In all seriousness, if you were a footballer would you show some much loyalty/compassion to your club that you'd reject the chance to earn a ludicrous signing on fee (potentially tens of millions) whilst signing for one of the most prestigious club in the world?

I don't believe it's a realistic thing to expect/hope for. It would be naive for me to say otherwise. He has to put his own career/future first.
 
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