There isn't a soul who has mentioned anything about cutting ties; that's a leap you've taken to argue against a strawman of your own devising.
Then where would the pressure come from for the UK to step in? All the Tories care about is money
The way they've convinced fans that they are the white knights against some sort of 'cabal'..(one, by the way, which has somehow failed every big club in italy, United, both big spanish clubs at one point) is propaganda of 1930s level success. The coverage on this whole affair is such a soft touch it's staggering and hard to make a case that a number of high profile sports journalists arent getting backhanders left right and centre. City fans would do well to accept, that prior to this takeover, you might have been unsuccesful on the pitch, but you were a respected club the same as so many all around the UK. And when normal people could just see to the naked eye test that what was happening wasn't right in a sporting sense, almost every single one I encountered went to the wall with every sort of conspiracy and justification possible - relentlessly arguing and suggesting any criticism is motivated by jealousy. I hope the club and the fans get what they deserve, an absolute humiliation and their decade of blatanly corrupt 'success' forever undermined.It won't make much difference. There's so little difference between a Sunack/Starmer government anyway. City will pay some sort of financial penalty at most.
On the Premier League itself. They will be told not to do anything severe enough that it risks jeopardising the relationship between the two nations.
It's already happened with the Newcastle takeover. The Premier League blocked the initial takeover. A mob of angry Geordies marched on downing street to demand that they could become a state owned play thing and then sure enough The Premier League mysteriously decided that actually Saudi Arabia were fit and proper owners.
Abu Dhabi say jump and the Tories ask how high. So no, ties definitely won’t be getting cut.
There has been coverage of what's at stake (huge contracts and why the government would seek to assuage) throughout the thread; you don't have to cut ties entirely to pressurise. Seeking even some of that business elsewhere is enough, which does not equate to pulling out entirely. The amount of money they pump in is staggering and everything will be done to keep it that way, or do you doubt that?
What’s this based on? I’m not saying they don’t have influence but making a mockery of English football has a lot more influence on the government than a slightly annoyed Arab prince.
You’re being a bit naive.
Will happen eventually. Their current tactic is evidently to delay things as much as possible while they continue to hoover up trophies.
We still want his contributions and skills. And if this happens, just sack him. It really is that simple. CEOs shouldn't be club legends that you don't want to let go. They're employees.
He’s leaving before they get punished.
Can you imagine the absolute shitstorm if the government overruled the PL as a favour for a cheating club owned by a foreign government.
Didn’t something similar already happen when the government pressurised the Premier League into allowing Saudi to purchase Newcastle? The public reaction to that decision seems to have been fairly positive, in general.
Not familiar with that story but on the face of it two very different situations. One is to allow ownership and the other is to allow a club to systematically cheat in the national sport.
Unprecedented points deductions and fines can be administered whilst City effectively get off scott free or very, very lightly.
Yes it could be spun that way, but you need to satisfy the public and the other clubs in the league with a just punishment. If city are seen to get away with it then other clubs will either be pissed off or will just cheat themselves and football is probably the last remaining thing the English public would get up in arms about I reckon (see the Super League).
No they don't. That's also a rabbit hole where some want obliteration and others would be satisfied with a demotion/expulsion to the Championship. Who amongst the other clubs in the league actually want anything to happen to them is also a topic of its own, which I raised here some time ago.
Of course the public will have to be satisfied, our media is dominated by football talk and football fans. If people see this as unjust online spaces, talksport, papers will all be buzzing with it and whoever is in government will be feeling the heat.
For me at least it was a league without relegation or true competition and undermining the national game where a club from the very bottom is linked to a club at the very top.
The failure of the fit and proper person's test is what has led to this. As I've stated before I think it's easy to be cynical and think the whole thing is corrupt but if you step back and examine the interests of those involved I think there is a good chance we see the end of this version of city. It obviously comes down to what can be proven and what is made public, evidence has already been out there for posters to look at for years which makes it obvious city are guilty of fraud.
How does he make sense when Berrada joined after the allegation period?
Yeah I don't really see the issue here. We wanted to hire him and are working on the presumption he's innocent (I'm assuming this was, at least, in some way diligenced before hiring him and we'd have put something in his contract about waiving renumeration if he's implicated etc.) but if he is punished we just find another CEO. It's not like we've signed a young Messi and there's literally no replacements should he leave.
Man City are accused of breaching 115 regulations over 14 seasons from 2009-10 onwards.
9? They refused to hand anything over beyond 2019 or something.
I'm sure you're right, I did Google it but am not going to argue!
He didnt start working for MCFC until 2016 and I think the charges mainly relate to sponserships set up well before that so he should be fine.
He started at City in 2011..
I think people continue to underestimate the fact that the Premier League is a product that generates insane amounts of money, both directly and indirectly. I don't think the value it has for the UK can be understated. Sporting integrity isn't really the most important factor here...
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I am shocked that a paid-up Qatari blogger came to this conclusion. Stunned.
Sponsorships are his field of expertise, of course he had knowledge of City's sponsorship deals.
He joined CFG in 2011 but worked for CFM, he didnt start working for MCFC themselves until 2016 so will have had no involvement in the sponsorships the charges relate to.
I watched the documentary last night if if the documents they showed are genuine then there is something to find.
How would United know either way?
Agree I think he would have been aware of what was going on - would be quite funny if he became a whistleblower on it though, agent Omar
Due diligence on their part before recruiting someone at that level, fit and proper reviews though it's not a regulated activity so not sure how granular that would be. In any case, this topic is out in the open and I'm assuming he would have been grilled on it before being recruited. I'm hoping it went beyond
City won't release the info to the body investigating them so I seriously doubt United have somehow got the inside track on what's been going. Or that he himself would just offer up the info and his role.
