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So sir Alex and David did all of those jobs that we hire some many people right now, just by themselves? Impressive
Football wasn't as data intensive then as it has been in the last 10 years, I think they'd have had to have adapted more if they were still in charge now.

The whole area of sports science has come a long way in the last decade, and I think scouting too. United had to rise to the Chelsea challenge in the Abramovich era, then City was still on the rise when he left after getting the title with RVP, SAF never had to deal with the financial doping city.
 

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haha...now they are eliminating corporate credit cards for all the fat cats
 

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Paywalled, but in summary : Qatar complaining about SJR's comments that Jassim may not exist and that they couldn't provide proof of funds. They're also demanding “immediate corrective action” be made to the club’s SEC filings and accuse Ratcliffe of making comments in his interview in February that represented a breach of the confidentiality agreement signed by all parties concerning the sales process.

 

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Big Sir Big Jim goading Shake Jissum into buying the entire club for an exorbitant price.
 

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Paywalled, but in summary : Qatar complaining about SJR's comments that Jassim may not exist and that they couldn't provide proof of funds. They're also demanding “immediate corrective action” be made to the club’s SEC filings and accuse Ratcliffe of making comments in his interview in February that represented a breach of the confidentiality agreement signed by all parties concerning the sales process.

Interesting, didn't think they'd file a formal complaint.
 

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Big Sir Big Jim goading Shake Jissum into buying the entire club for an exorbitant price.
The Masterplan, why do you think he was happy with minority? Because he wants to be bought out by an angry Qatar flexing their financial muscle.
 

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Everyone knew all along that despite all smoke and mirrors, it essentially just came down to who offered more money per share.

Money is all the Glazers care about. Nothing else

If Qatar wanted the club enough, they’d have had it. Anyone could have had it if they offered enough. They’d have sold it to Putin
 

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I was a huge Qatar and wanted them to take over . But I am glad that SJR has taken over and we have a new hierarchy coming in. This is done guys. Get over it !
 

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Paywalled, but in summary : Qatar complaining about SJR's comments that Jassim may not exist and that they couldn't provide proof of funds. They're also demanding “immediate corrective action” be made to the club’s SEC filings and accuse Ratcliffe of making comments in his interview in February that represented a breach of the confidentiality agreement signed by all parties concerning the sales process.

So in reality they are upset he told on them after they tried to sabotage his relationship with fans by funding hit pieces about SJR "lacking money for a full bid". Smoke and mirrors.
 

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Manchester United shouldn't be state owned.

Some people will never understand why many United fans feel so strongly about this.

Some of the cheerleading for Jassim/Qatar on here was sickening.
 

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Manchester United shouldn't be state owned.

Some people will never understand why many United fans feel so strongly about this.

Some of the cheerleading for Jassim/Qatar on here was sickening.
Tbf to @Rood, though, he was absolutely coining it in from the Qatari deep state, so his enthusiasm was understandable.
 

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Jassim would've probably helped his cause a bit by actually being in public so people could verify that he exists. At a minimum, to avoid the public perception that he was little more than a thinly veiled facade to mask the government of Qatar taking over United.
 

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Fans opinion on ownership doesn’t matter even an iota, as far as the Glazers concern.
 

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Manchester United shouldn't be state owned.

Some people will never understand why many United fans feel so strongly about this.

Some of the cheerleading for Jassim/Qatar on here was sickening.
Agree that United shouldn't be state owned, but in fairness, those wanting Jassim to buy were generally of the opinion that he was independent of the state of Qatar.
 

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Agree that United shouldn't be state owned, but in fairness, those wanting Jassim to buy were generally of the opinion that he was independent of the state of Qatar.
I really don’t think they cared what he was all that much, they just saw dollar signs and were twerking harder than the glazers for that filthy cash.
 

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Tbf to @Rood, though, he was absolutely coining it in from the Qatari deep state, so his enthusiasm was understandable.
I wish!

Seems we are now at the Empire Strikes Back phase

Sir Jim is not the jedi I wanted, let's hope he turns out to be the one we needed!
 

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Agree that United shouldn't be state owned, but in fairness, those wanting Jassim to buy were generally of the opinion that he was independent of the state of Qatar.
The way this all played out makes me even more convinced that it was not a state bid, pretty sure the Qatari state would have paid whatever the Glazers wanted

Interview with the Raine Group boss suggested they were not that far away from the number the Glazers had in mind
 

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Agree that United shouldn't be state owned, but in fairness, those wanting Jassim to buy were generally of the opinion that he was independent of the state of Qatar.
Does anyone truly believe there are little known Qatari billionaires without very strong ties to the state?
 

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The way this all played out makes me even more convinced that it was not a state bid, pretty sure the Qatari state would have paid whatever the Glazers wanted

Interview with the Raine Group boss suggested they were not that far away from the number the Glazers had in mind
Given how much the Glazers wanted, I doubt anyone would've actually paid that much for an outright sale.
 

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Paywalled, but in summary : Qatar complaining about SJR's comments that Jassim may not exist and that they couldn't provide proof of funds. They're also demanding “immediate corrective action” be made to the club’s SEC filings and accuse Ratcliffe of making comments in his interview in February that represented a breach of the confidentiality agreement signed by all parties concerning the sales process.

Qatar is complaining to whom?
 

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Manchester United shouldn't be state owned.

Some people will never understand why many United fans feel so strongly about this.

Some of the cheerleading for Jassim/Qatar on here was sickening.
People just saw it as a click of the fingers and United are where they used to be and where City are now. That’s what millions signed up for and haven’t been close to enjoying for 10-15 years now. I’m not calling them all glory hunters but that’s the truth.
 

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People just saw it as a click of the fingers and United are where they used to be and where City are now. That’s what millions signed up for and haven’t been close to enjoying for 10-15 years now. I’m not calling them all glory hunters but that’s the truth.
Exactly. I never wanted the Qatari bid but some fans made out that I should just f*** off and support another club then.
im not that big a fan of the Brexiteer greenwashing SJR either but it was the lesser of two evils in my eyes.
 

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Given how much the Glazers wanted, I doubt anyone would've actually paid that much for an outright sale.
Could be right and more importantly I think the Glazers preferred the minority deal which gave them a big profit and still retain majority control

Seems Sheikh Jassim was only interested in full control whereas Sir Jim was ready to be flexible
 

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Manchester United shouldn't be state owned.

Some people will never understand why many United fans feel so strongly about this.

Some of the cheerleading for Jassim/Qatar on here was sickening.
Definitely! Especially after so many cry (correctly) over how unfair City are and how they've gotten away with so much, but essentially want exactly the same just to cheat a few trophies.
 

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The article suggests formal complaints have been sent to United's lawyers
The article does give that impression but there is a very clear route to making what actually is a formal complaint about SEC filings. You would complete a TCR referral form and submit it directly to the exchange. They've been going on about a corrective filing since January - "just do it" is the simple response. Don't just feed messages through The Athletic or Sky Sports News presenters to demonstrate how serious you are. The rest is just lawyers being a little performative. It only becomes formal if they initiate any action, until then it's just the same as if you or I wrote them a strongly worded letter.
 
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