I would be very happy with that.
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Agreed. He seems to fit that recruitment role based on when you see articles about him and almost all of them mention that player recruitment is his forte.
People will need to be a bit patient when it comes to recruitment with them too imo. Nobody is perfect with signings, but our first task is fixing our FFP situation, our wages, and clearing out high earners with no long term roles but on long term deals. We'll likely have to pay their wages to play elsewhere for a while yet. It's hard to do what you want in transfers in when those restrictions are in place first
Was Ward not in the epoch after Edwards at Liverpool where their recruitment wasn’t nearly as impressive?
So we want Ashworth, Wilcox AND Freedman? I hope that’s not too many cooks.
The report today is Ward, is there anything new with Freedman?
His only big signings as sporting director for Liverpool were Darwin Nunez and Cody Gakpo. He was only in that role for the 22/23 season and had already announced that he was stepping down by November 2022.
Yeah that’s what I thought. Not the most exciting.
So who bought Endo, Mac Alister and Slob?
Jorg Schmadtke
I was told DF is very much in the fold, sort of one step before "its happening" so maybe they will go in the direction of Ward or someone else but I would be surprised if he was not the one coming in (DF).
Dougie won’t go from Sporting Director at Palace to a recruitment role at United
I also feel like Ashworth needs to be sorted out before any appointments below him are done
I also feel like Ashworth needs to be sorted out before any appointments below him are done
Haha I just don't know the difference. But wonder what else ward has done then.
Why not? One of the biggest clubs in the world and an exciting challenge. I would say it’s a big step up for him.
Jim looking to save a lot of money based on this seasons performances
He’d be on a considerably bigger wage being the Recruitment Director at United than the overall Sporting Director at Palace.
And we’re all after more money from our jobs at the end of the day.
And we’re all after more money from our jobs at the end of the day.
Rest assured that SJR and team will get the right people in the right jobs eventually. You don't build a successful company like Ineos by luck. Euro 2.60 billion profit last year and 3.50 billion the year before. INEOS is derived from INspec, Ethylene Oxide and Specialities for those that are interested. The name also contains some Latin and Greek, Ineo is Latin for new beginning, Eos is the Greek goddess of Dawn and Neos is Greek for something new and innovative. They will appoint the best in class that is available at the time based on research not the media. Personally, I don't see ETH as best in class. Tuchel will be available at the end of the season. Is he the best in class? Don't know.
In two seasons time, we will be competing for everything I'm sure.
In two seasons time, we will be competing for everything I'm sure.
Yeah as long as the decisions make some sort of sense and follow a clear plan then I’m completely fine to wait a few transfer windows.
You look at the current squad on paper, and it just looks like a mess, unable of playing anything but chaotic pinball style.
This will get rid people who are in the club just for the easy monai.
What makes you think that? Because I'd love to share your optimism. I am really undecided about him because he's clearly not an idiot. You don't get to be in the position he is in without being an exceptionally intelligent man. I just have an inherent skepticism when I hear too much populist talk that points out over and over the principles, values, community, blablabla, ... Since the takeover happened, the PR has been over the roof with him pushing every popular button I could think of which feels a bit like pandering to desperata fans. I think of the best owners or leaders of clubs in my view like Abramovic, the City owners or Florentino Perez just go on about the work and don't seem like they're on a crusade to get people to like them because of how much they care about the values and community and fans. Maybe I am missing something and I really hope am but I am just suspicious when I feel a very wealthy man is trying so hard to sell me how much they relate to me and understand me."Too much smoke for this to be lies"
Most of our fanbase got played like fiddles in this whole saga. Thankfully most were also as wrong about Ratcliffe as they were sure of Jassim, and he looks like he means business and is willing to put his money where his mouth is.
Like I said, it looks like he's willing to do it. We'll see if he does deliver, but he's setting himself up for a humongous fall is he promises this and doesn't deliver. Dare I say it but I think he'd be hated more than the Glazers by most fans, as he's our lady hope for a long time, so people are trusting him to be genuine. We'll see.
I don't think he is not genuine. No one wants to do a bad job, that's just human nature to want to be successful and to be the best, especially humans who are exceptional like him. The question is, does he have the competence for this specific area. His track record does not fill one with confidence and his apparent allegiance to a British core poses a lot of questions. I'd love us to have a team full of home grown players or at least British talent as much as the next person. But to compete with the giants now, you can't limit yourself in my opinion. The other question is the finance. When Roman- and the Sheikhs took over, there was just a feeling that they'll spend whatever it takes. It doesn't fill me with confidence when I hear him trying to get the government help us with our stadium. It sounds like a man who is looking to make deals which is more than fine in the business world, it is actually the only way to succeed. But in football, competing with the likes of City, it's a different question. We'll see I guess, things can quickly turn if you have some astute appointments and the changing of eras which is the only inevitability in football.
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You’re talking nonsense.
As others have already said the issue of new shares generally requires consent from the existing shareholders. These are known as pre-emption rights and are included within law in England and Wales.
Pre-emption rights are specifically designed to stop your fantasy from taking place and would still require control of the company at some fundamental level to enable the issuing of shares in any event.
Now, if SJR wants to invest more money and he can get the Glazers to agree to him receiving further shares as his investment mechanism that’s a different story, but the Glazers are not powerless in the scenario as you suggest.
I should have kept reading, this is an excellent post.
Right of first refusal is pretty common and almost certainly something SJR would have been able to negotiate in as part of the deal.
More to the point it will help his change initiative by contributing to a culture that rewards success but places a limit on financial reward in the event of failure. This is important. I think it’s especially important in a sporting environment, where you need a blend of transformational leadership (the head coach and coaching staff), and transactional leadership (the clubs payroll structure). Transactional leadership success has an inverse relationship with education levels, which is why it should always form a significant part of any premier league club’s leadership approach.
Wish this was coming from somewhere more reliable
Still the positive leaks are happening after a poor result I see.
Who is better out of Ward and Freedman when it comes to recruitment?
Freedman seems pretty good to me.
Track record at Palace looks decent. Eze, Olise. Anderson, Guehi are him aren’t they. And the new one Wharton looks good quality.
Personally would be happy with either,apparently Ward has worked with Berrada at Man City so maybe something in that. Mind you Fergie is a big backer of Freedman too.
It’s all gone quiet on the personnel restructuring front even though over a week ago, the good news was daily.
Its the only thing that I’m interested in as regards to United at the moment. As regards to Ashworth, Wilcox and another guy being overkill and too many cooks… it seems like 2-3 football related directors is the norm at the biggest clubs, excluding the CEO.
Think how mad that is when for a decade it’s been mostly Woodward (someone with zero football experience) and whoever the first team head coach was at the time, running things.
Its the only thing that I’m interested in as regards to United at the moment. As regards to Ashworth, Wilcox and another guy being overkill and too many cooks… it seems like 2-3 football related directors is the norm at the biggest clubs, excluding the CEO.
Think how mad that is when for a decade it’s been mostly Woodward (someone with zero football experience) and whoever the first team head coach was at the time, running things.
Hasn't this guy been quite reliable?
Wouldn't trust him like I do Whitwell/Ornstein
True but they're tier one. Your standards are too high Croydon man!
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