Clubs that took too long to sack managers

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OGS prime candidate currently. Bar a decent FA cup run, not much for Man. United to get excited about for next 6 months given they're wasting league game after league game currently and may still drop into europa if they lose to Villareal.

Thinking back to teams who've gone down and pretty sure Newcastle kept Steve McClaren until middle of March one season. Then got in Benitez who got 3-4 wins but just ran out of time. Probably same for West Brom last season keeping Bilic until mid December rather than sack him around October and get in Big Sam then.
 

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Steve Kean at Blackburn.
 

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Steve Kean at Blackburn.
First one that comes to mind for me as well. They even gave him an extension when it was obvious to everyone that he was out of his depth. What club would actually do something like that?!
 

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Ronald Keaman at Barcelona. Everyone could see he was doomed to fail right from the start, not sure how he could last there for 14 months. Still feels like he's been there for a while.
 

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Man United - David Moyes
Man United - Louis Van Gaal
Man United - Jose Mourinho
 

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All I can think of is United because of what's happened since SAF retired but it's true that there is a point where you just think 'this is over and there's no coming back'. The pressure in the media and player power means it's just insane nowadays and the days of Fergie and Wenger have long gone but we seem to be a club that is reluctant to pull the trigger when 'that' moment happens;
  • Moyes was the 81 crosses against Fulham
  • LVG was the November/December run in his second season. To his credit he came back with an FA cup and lost out on top 4 via goal difference. Still should have been sacked mind
  • Jose's time was over even before a ball had been kicked in his third season and how unhappy he and the club obviously were. The 3-0 loss against Spurs was probably the moment.
  • Ole's moment was the Liverpool game, though like LVG he's come back from the dead a few times during other crisis moments as United manager.
Interesting to note that these decisions not to sack the coach earlier caused financial losses due to missing out on the top 4. Unless Ole goes now or turns it around then we will have been in this situation four times in a decade.
 

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Kean at Blackburn. Possibly Wenger at Arsenal as although they are worse now than when he left I am not convinced if he had left 5 years earlier they would've had such a dip.
 

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Yeah. Niko wasn't accepted by the players and they left him for dead.

But comparing them to Ole.....the results werent all that bad. Not Ole bad.
Nah, and it wasn't my intention to make that comparison. In line with the thread title though, they both were in charge longer than was good for our football. At least for both of them the curtain came when the results began to clearly reflect the decline.
 

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Real Madrid with Benitez, would had won that season had he been sacked sooner. :mad:
 

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Nah, and it wasn't my intention to make that comparison. In line with the thread title though, they both were in charge longer than was good for our football. At least for both of them the curtain came when the results began to clearly reflect the decline.
I think with both coaches you could see a somewhat similar pattern: you saw the cracks opening up quite early, bottom line everyone could see that they weren't a good fit for the squad, but since Bayern have managed to create a club culture of ambition the players pulled themselves together for the business end of the season and won domestic titles. Then came the new season, there were no knockout games or title home stretch to put things into perspective, games weren't as make or break, so the cracks resurfaced and since the coaches didn't have the "recently signed protection" anymore things quickly spiraled out of control for them.

I think if you just put it as "well results turned sour at some (random) point" then you ignore the predictable nature of these sackings. I think you see this quite often: some purple patch run in that papers over the cracks, everyone is blind to the fact that the team actually isn't highly functional and then momentum gets reset during the summer break and suddenly reality kicks in and you things collapse right from the start. An example of this would be Tayfun Korkut, who had a miraculous streak after taking over Stuttgart mid season, getting an amazing string of results playing bad football and then the following season they god relegated. Another example would be Domenico Tedesco, who won 2nd place with Schalke, playing games against relegation fodder where you couldn't tell which team was on top of the table and which was on the bottom and then the following season they completely crashed after the club had just given him a long term contract.
 
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Arsenal with Wegner

Man Utd with Ole


Both clubs currently paying for it.
 

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Sacking is the easy bit! Grass isn't always greener.

Need to have someone better lined up to replace. That is the issue at Utd at the moment. Who's going there to fix things? I guess Koeman is available :lol:.

We got lucky PSG gave Tuchel the boot on Christmas eve last year, must have stung! Left him super motivated to do well with us especially in CL and make them eat it.
 

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Us with Ole several times in the last few weeks.

Arsenal with Wenger. The 8-2 should have been it and pretty much losing the league to Leicester when they lost to our reserves/under 16 team at Old Trafford should definitley been time.

Probably a few others but too annoyed now to think of any.
 

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This obsession (or subterfuge) with the "United Way" is a convenient excuse not to be ruthless when situation demands it. A weird romanticism that somehow United will pull through with a last minute miracle - rather than simply do well right from the start.
 

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This obsession (or subterfuge) with the "United Way" is a convenient excuse not to be ruthless when situation demands it. A weird romanticism that somehow United will pull through with a last minute miracle - rather than simply do well right from the start.
Having the greatest manager of all time has given United an idiotic view that manager must be unconditionally supported. Every other top club happily gets rid if it’s not going to work.
 

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Having the greatest manager of all time has given United an idiotic view that manager must be unconditionally supported. Every other top club happily gets rid if it’s not going to work.
Exactly. There is no fate or destiny that something wrong will eventually right itself. SAF was one of a kind. Giving OGS that extension was totally irrational, justified only by the delusional (and romantically United) idea that the disciple becomes the master.
 

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Steve Kean at Blackburn.
As a Blackburn fan I can unfortunately agree with that.

Under Kean, we slid down the table from a safe mid-table position in 2010/2011 mathematically avoiding relegation on the final day of the season, and then of course were woeful the next season as we went down. Sacking Allardyce, replacing him with Kean, and persisting with Kean for so long, was disastrous.

Kean was one of 7 Glaswegian managers in the Premier League at the time, and SAF and Moyes continually leaping to his defence and criticising us ‘nasty’ Blackburn fans was annoying.

Stoke took too long to get rid of Hughes in 2017/2018, but we were worse with Kean.