Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by francobaresi, Oct 6, 2019.
And you have that on good authority? Or just guessing?
Just common sense.
I'd agree here, I went to watch them at Palace a few weeks back and have no idea how they beat City. Could tell they are destined for that sweet relegation scrap
We aren’t getting relegated. Ole will get sacked by December if he can’t secure some wins. We’ll panic buy some players in January who are bound to improve us (can’t get worse than this) under a caretaker manager who’s hopefully not an ex united player.
Ok fair enough. I don't agree but fair enough.
It's notoriously very hard to get players in January. If the board wouldn't cough up too much in the summer then I can't imagine fortunes been thrown on overpriced players in January. One maybe. Unless we were actually really close to the bottom three which would be very surprising.
Yup. A quick fix.
More likely we will lose Pogba and Martial in Jan than get in a new raft of world class players.
I guess there still is a market for overrated & overpaid players.
Let’s hope so. Otherwise our rebuild is certainly in trouble.
Yeah, that'll only happen if we are relegation scrap by then. Otherwise the board is shameless enough to give feck all and tell the manager to focus on Europa League
Not only we could easily finish top 1 or 2, we could have easily won the treble too. All we need is some luck to manage to win all of the remaining of games. We have world class movement Lingard and the most talented no.9 Rashford leading the attack, we can still do it.
I would say the possibility is high given that Newcastle will be and they played much better football than us on the weekend.
Ole is putting his faith into this group of players and when he says that Rojo is atop player and Fred will come good he is obviously trying to instill confidence in these players because I have seen nothing to warrant such an opinion.
I know football fans generally have short memories, but after 10 games in LVG first season we were only on 13 points and ended the season 4th. During that period there were also a number of injuries.
Wait for Martial to come back before people start panicking. The games where the attack looked potent were the ones he played in, and the ones he missed its looked toothless, so it doesn't take a genius to workout how important he is. And not just as a individual, but for Rashford as well, as he creates space for him where his headless chicken runs are actually effective..
Not sure how to reply to that, it's a toss up between That's the spirit! and I think you should put that spirit down
I don’t think we can compare the situation to Van Gaal’s first season.
We were never going to get relegated with attackers like Rooney, Van Persie, Di Maria and a Mata who could actually move at a semi-competent level.
Not to mention an experienced coach like LvG in the dugout, relegation was never a remote possibility back then.
We’re probably not going to get relegated but when you’re telling me that our entire attack is dependent on Martial’s ability to stay fit and not depressed I’m seriously starting to get worried.
There is an enormous difference between LVG and Ole. One was a proven manager who has won the La Liga and the Bundesliga and the CL.
The other got Cardiff relegated. LVG got us into 5th place and won the FA Cup in his second season. He got us into CL in his first season.
Does anyone think Ole can get us into CL this year?
Haha well I'd argue that saying I can't see us anywhere near 3/4th place is more realistic than negative!
I can't see Martial going anywhere soon. Pogba, yes. I thought next summer, but the way this season is going, if someone offered the right money in Jan, then maybe. Can't see that happening though. Maybe if Madrid need a boost they will, but I doubt it in January.
We surely won't get relegated but bottom half wouldn't surprise me. Current form has us heading for roughly 4/5th bottom!
The usual part of a season where an injured Martial is talked about like the saviour you'd think he was one of the most consistent players on the planet the way he's spoken about on here.
There is no way we are getting in a relegation fight......
It’s mass hysteria on this forum....
it’s not been great so far this season but once we get back the opening game (Chelsea) lineup then we will start picking up some points - January transfer market will be key to us seeing out the season on an upward trend....
Wouldn’t be surprised if we somehow fluke a result against the scousers - maybe Rashy to do a Mane dive in the box and somehow scrape a win with a penalty or Maguire scores from a corner - DDG has a blinder and all the scousers start bleating how hard done by they are......
So let's just go with your way of thinking that the main striker going into the season will not be missed at all
Eh? Is that my line of thinking? We miss him, but even when he’s fit he can hardly be relied upon and his form is so up and down, but that always gets forgotten about when he’s injured.
Massive difference in that he managed to start the season of 13 from 10 games. I am not saying we will end the season in the CL but people on here frame their arguments to how they would like it be perceived at tend to avoid things if it doesn't fit their narrative
but LVG had the pedigree and past achievements that he could start like that? Ole doesn’t. LVG was clearly implementing a style of play, Ole doesn’t seem to be doing that. The difference is so obvious.
Maybe by people with particular agendas. If you look at it objectively the attack looked good when he played and its looked toothless when he hasn't.
Why not? We've been in relegation form ever since Ole became a permanent manager in March. Is there any indication he should turn things around somehow if we tolerate his incompetence any longer?
The opening game lineup lost to Roy Hodgson and his motley crew of misfits and rejects two weeks later. At Old Trafford.
Maybe if you’re selective what period you look at yeah.
So fecking pessimistic. Relegation?!? I have literally heard it all now on this forum.
What is there to be optimistic about? maybe you can enlighten us?
I am comparing the start and the amount of injuries which contributed. Everyone can use the hindsight argument as we know what happened, and say well the difference is LVG is this, that and the other... But point is even as good as manager as he was, he still managed to get into that situation of such a poor start
I'm not calling for optimism just cutting down on the pessimism. We are supporters after all, so we should support the team. Try it, I guarantee you'll enjoy being a fan much more.
Isn't that the point of analysing team selections and formulating the best team.
When you are struggling for goals and you lose your best finisher, its going to have its effects.
This will be a first for a lot of our fans to see us in the bottom half for potentially a few weeks at least.
So we should have just stuck with LVG and never sacked him in the first place, by this virtue.
I support the team, cheer every goal, disappointed with every dropped point but we have been supporting the team well in the last 6 years without any reward. We know the trend of what poor football leads to.
manager would be sacked way before then though.
I think we should have stuck with LVG. It was a little boring but he was implementing possession football and we dominated. We were probably a couple of creative players short of having a team with the skills and confidence to take the odd risk and turn this into more goals and a real force.
You can be a supporter and acknowledge the situation. That said, genuine support (giving something to United, in the form of buying tickets or whatever) from me comes with something in return and the club is offering me naught in recent years.
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