Cristiano Ronaldo - Much Ado About Al Nassr
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The fanboys will try to make Soccer aid a factor in this discussion when they are both playing in that in about 5 years. Boring fecks.
Can we talk about assists, big chances created. The playmaking part? I won't even talk about dribbling stats. You can compare them interms of number of goals scored but outside of that, the chasm is quite big.
As for longevity at the highest level, Ronaldo only came good in 2006 after the world cup and ended in 2022, 16 seasons at high level, give or take.
Messi came good in 2005/6 season and ended in 2023; 17 seasons at a high level give or take. Messi left Europe out of choice to end it on a high, Ronaldo left because no one wanted him.
Can we talk about success with their respective countries?
Messi won u20 wc, Olympic gold, Copa America and the WC while being the player of the tournament in all of them.
Ronaldo won the Euro 2016, while hav8ng an average tournament; he was neither top scorer nor the player of the tournament.
I don't dispute that Ronaldo is an all time great but I have absolutely no doubt that Messi has always been the better footballer even in seasons when the former won the ballond'or.
Well don't get this wrong, this comparison is not meant to be about who is being the best player or who being the most successful over their career, and I am not going to argue against any notion that Messi is the best player ever, as I agree he is.
But this comparison is simply on consistency/longevity at the top/highest level
What leagues are in the top 4 and top 7?
My guess is Seria A as nr. 4 and top 7 I guess includes portugal and France. I think top 6 would have done it but I dont know how much these rankings have changed over the 2 last decades with the respect to nr. 7
Can we add assists to this? Interested.
Traditionally the top 4 leagues are Italy, England, Spain and then followed by Germany.
Top 7 leagues would include France, Portugal and Netherland, based on their prestige in terms of wins/final appearance in European best competitions.
Total CL Titles/Finals
1. Spain 19/30
2. England 15/26
3. Italy 12/29
4. Germany 8/18
5. Netherland 6/8
6. Portugal 4/9
7. France 1/7
Tier 1: Spain, England, Italy (over 21-30 finals)
Tier 2: Germany (over 11-20 finals)
Tier 3: Netherlands, Portugal, France (over 5-10 finals)
In terms of current UEFA coefficient on league rankings:
1. England - 86.928
2. Spain - 73.427
3. Italy - 69.284
4. Germany - 67.267
5. Netherland - 51.300
6. France - 50.581
7. Portugal - 45.316
Tier 1 - England
Tier 2 - Spain, Italy, Germany
Tier 3 - Netherland, France, Portugal
Based on above, I think we can either group them into either top 4 and top 7 league respectively, as they are more comparable this way.
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So is Ronnie going back to Europe or what? I think he says he wants to leave Saudi Arabia and twitter seems all about him coming back to Europe. But maybe thats just twitter and nothing else.
Has he grown younger while in South Africa, or what else has changed?
He´s probably on a new regime that makes him younger by the day.
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I think these last 2 videos posted are definitely posters from this thread
The more I see Speed, the more I wanna give up watching this sport.
I didn't even know who this guy was! But it turns out he is famous in some circles. For us older fans, the whole thing is weird...
what a cringey weird creep
Regardless of this irrelevant drama queen "influencer" a shoutout to Leão, he stopped his car when he recognised Speed and went to talk to him, then when Ronaldo's car was passing by he asked it to stop and asked Ronaldo to come out and meet him. Really nice guy.
There are rumours that Twitter will register in League 1 nex season, but will be fast tracked into the Premier League for the 2024/25 season. Ronaldo will of course be nailed on for a glorious injury time sub slot.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Real-Madrid-team-mate.html
Kinda what we expect from him as a selfish, preening primadona.
Kinda what we expect from him as a selfish, preening primadona.
Call me old fashioned but people used to get famous for actually doing something and not just existing as an annoying twat on the internet. But maybe I'm just a 36 year old boomer.
If you think about it, it was always like that. Unfortunately. Previously, it was the TV, now it is tiktok or whatever social network. For example, one of the most famous people in the 1990s was Pamela Anderson...
Yeah but she has big boobs, which is better than being a massive tit.
"But he was a nice guy, nothing wrong, we didn't really have any problems..."
You're 36?! Man I thought you were at least double that
At least she was a lifeguard. Keeping people safe and giving back to the community.
You remind me of another dude on an old forum called CmGamer, same age n everything
I hate the fact that that I keep seeing that Speed guy just because I follow the sport of football. What does he do even? Does it even have anything to do with football?
He's what I imagine most of these Messi and Ronaldo fanboys are like in the real world. Loud, obnoxious, have zero knowledge of the game of football and can't play it for shit. Yes I've seen some clips of him kicking the ball around, unfortunately.
He's what I imagine most of these Messi and Ronaldo fanboys are like in the real world. Loud, obnoxious, have zero knowledge of the game of football and can't play it for shit. Yes I've seen some clips of him kicking the ball around, unfortunately.
He is what the average manchild in Twitter, who join all Messi vs Ronaldo debates(even the ones with less than 50 replies), would look like if they were famous and went outside.
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His association with football is due to his association with football. Like those people who go on Celebrity Big Brother, and their big claim to fame is previously being on the normal Big Brother.
Speed is just a kid I think he graduated high school last month, clearly has some sort of hyperactivity/adhd or something and has somehow made millions off streaming himself screaming and crying and barking like a dog manically.
The faux obsession with Ronaldo was a central part of his persona and this… meeting will probably trigger a long overdue shift into slightly less childish content. Given KSI’s trajectory was similar, I am interested to see what the little freak will be doing in ten years time.
The faux obsession with Ronaldo was a central part of his persona and this… meeting will probably trigger a long overdue shift into slightly less childish content. Given KSI’s trajectory was similar, I am interested to see what the little freak will be doing in ten years time.
Yeah Leăo is just a happy kid that just wants to play football
There are 2 other things that stand out:
1. Not celebrating a 5 nil win if he did not score.
2. Thanking his teammates only for the camera.
You should write fortune cookies.
How long do you reckon he'll stay in Saudi Arabia?
It been confirmed Beckham, RVN and loads of other players have been the same.
Next season will be his last there as he realises bigger/better players have arrived.
He was always such a leader. No doubt he was the best in the teams he played in but once his powers waned and returned to man utd its clear that he was never a team player or had the maturity he talked about in interviews. It was always about him. A greater player than Keane or Cantona ever were but hardly someone who would nurture the younglings.