The fecker is glued to his line and his distribution is piss poor. He also spent months last season chucking the ball into his own net. Highest paid keeper in the world? My arse.
De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal
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You're right. Although even for the majority of last season, he was not quite up to his own standards, as stats will also highlight.
Chill out kiddo, there have been plenty of posters claiming De Gea is average or has finally been found out etc.
I wasn't talking about you specifically and questioning whether a player with 10 or so years of their career left, who has consistently been one of the best in his position for years is on a 'decline' after a few months, which had some games where he made a mistake in is typical of the online special cases who claim to be fans of the club. He's made something like 10 errors leading to goals in his career and around half that was in a short space back in April ish. That's called bad form and coupled with the entire team really struggling, does common sense not lead you to give the guy a break?
His bad patch really is being exaggerated. If you want to claim that our online fan base are critical thinkers, put thought, logic and reason in to what they post, as well as research their opinions then be my guest....
Also, I said nothing about the length of contract or directly responded to anything from this weekend. You seem to have jumped on my reply which was in response to the general critisicm that have been put his way across this and other forums.
Wait! so, you would have been happy seeing him leave for 30m if faxgate had never happened...?
For 30m? No. I would have been happy with a deal for around twice that...
I'm fine with that. The only player who's been here longer is Smalling, and he probably won't be first choice. Might as well give it to someone who always plays and who's "earned" it.
So... he didn't 'hold the club to ransom', like when young, more 'charismatic' outfield players do the exact same thing...?
Good to see him stay, but it's too much to pay a shot-stopper keeper imo.
If he conducted the defense in front of him, and / or was very good with distribution as well as having his amazing shot-stopper skills, then maybe - but he really doesn't.
Good to see him stay, but it's too much to pay a shot-stopper keeper imo.
If he conducted the defense in front of him, and / or was very good with distribution as well as having his amazing shot-stopper skills, then maybe - but he really doesn't.
Exactly, he has saved us for 4 seasons in a row! He is allowed to have a bit of bad form, I rather it was last season when we were poor and hopefully this season he will be back to his best. Everyone will forget it once he gets back to form.
He has been our most consistent performer, he clearly had a dream to play for Madrid but since that has not happened, he hasnt pushed a move anywhere else, he clearly loves this club.
Didn't fans want players who play for the club? With him signing a long term contract at his age, surely he is motivated to win trophies with Utd?
On one level, the money being offered him is fecking madness. On another, it probably makes sense. The level it makes sense on would be typical Woodward. Thinking like an accountant. De Gea is a very valuable asset who can leave on a free in the near future. Woodward no doubt thinks that paying 375k/week for the next few years is offset by the tens of millions of pounds we’d lose if De Gea saw out his contract and we got nothing for him.
I read an article over the weekend which gave another interesting insight into Woodward’s thinking (which may or may not be true) where the journo said that Woodward happy for us to have a bloated squad because he sees the players as assets that are inflating in value as transfer fees go up and up, season by season.
Obviously, a seriously flawed way of running a football club but presumably makes sense to a bean counter like him.
I read an article over the weekend which gave another interesting insight into Woodward’s thinking (which may or may not be true) where the journo said that Woodward happy for us to have a bloated squad because he sees the players as assets that are inflating in value as transfer fees go up and up, season by season.
Obviously, a seriously flawed way of running a football club but presumably makes sense to a bean counter like him.
Romero certainly instills more confidence on high balls and crosses.
So he's better than DDG, yeah?
Yeah, you're right. It's aimed more at the holier-
Apologies for firing off in your direction. You're right, it was a general complaint aimed at the posters who insist on splitting opinion into 2 binary sections of 'He's a legend, call yourself a fan?!' and 'He's no better than Romero, this is fecking stupid' when, in reality, it's much more complex than that and does warrant debate.
As ever, some utterly stupid shit has been posted about this contract but I can see both sides.
Personally I thought his form was patchy all season, with him being an actual liability for a while. If that was a blip then great, one of the best keepers in the world has committed the rest of his career to us. There's risk attached though. And I think it would be fairly naive to ignore that.
Cheers for the moderate, sensible reply anyway.
I think it's time to for you to switch to City mate.
On merit, it's probably him.
Didn't say that. However there's far more to goalkeeping than stopping shots . If people like you want to bury their heads in the sand and continue deluding yourselves he's the perfect goalkeeper fine but it don't really change his clear flaws however you choose to ignore it. No-one says he didn't do good things in the past or is a bad player but at the same time it don't make sense to overrate him beyond his level.
That's doesn't make everyone else not tolerable but actually reasonable. Infact there's people on here saying things like he already has legendary status etc that's even more delusional and laughable that it doesn't even deserve a reply.
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What always worries me is the club doesn't have a long-term vision, a plan B and C if shit hits the fan. We almost always go balls deep in such situations and potential failure almost cripples us, like the Sanchez deal.
I would definitely give him the captaincy.
1. He’s been our best player for a number of seasons (excluding the last one which is just a dip in form)
2. Experienced
3. Knows what the club is about
4. My favourite current player
1. He’s been our best player for a number of seasons (excluding the last one which is just a dip in form)
2. Experienced
3. Knows what the club is about
4. My favourite current player
What about his complete lack of leaderships qualities and wanting to move every summer for half a decade now?
Wanting to move? He’s never made any statements that show that. He’s always been quiet and respectable to the club. Maybe there were things going on behind the scenes but never has he made noises in the media, unlike say Pogba.
Did Beckham have great leadership qualities in terms of bring vocal? No, but he commanded respect and was a class player who could increase the morale based on his work rate and determination. De Gea is the same with the performances he puts in and how he’s saved this team countless times.
Agreed 100%.
The guy can barely command his own box. How can we make him leader of the team?
I don't have much to complain about how much he earns. Of all the players we've overpaid over the last 6 years, he's the one who deserves it the most.
I'm skeptical about his distribution and his last season was worrisome in terms of shot stopping as well, but I'd fully endorse a decision to back him to do well. When he's on form, he actually wins us games.
I'm glad we look like we're keeping both Pogba and DDG. They're the only truly world class players on our team.
I'm skeptical about his distribution and his last season was worrisome in terms of shot stopping as well, but I'd fully endorse a decision to back him to do well. When he's on form, he actually wins us games.
I'm glad we look like we're keeping both Pogba and DDG. They're the only truly world class players on our team.
Yeah he's just been decent.
One player I wouldn't mind spending lots of money on.
The two points I made were he was an incredible player and he’s certainly not worse than Romero. So which one is it you disagree with?
Who said he was the perfect goal keeper? Who is? Great to have some examples.
He was the best fecking keeper in the world, one
He’s won more Sir Matt Busby Awards than any other, he’s dug us out of holes more often than any keeper we’ve ever had. If the players around him were of the same level as he, and we were actually winning trophies, then he would quite rightly be discussed as a legend. But if you like, you can just ignore everything he’s done before last season, and chuck him in with the rest of the underachievers at the club.
He's won our player of the year four times. What is laughable is 18 months ago this whole forum and most other football fans were wanking themselves silly over De Gea but now he's just a 'decent player' and only done some 'good things' because of a few mistakes and an average season. Amazing how fickle our fan base is at times. Calling him a legend is a bit premature but six years from now I'm sure it will be different and he'll go down as one of our greatest goalkeepers.
Well said.
Of course he can, that's become a meme on here. He doesn't command it any less than Ederson or Ter Stegen for example.
DDG is entitled to a loss of form. He’s human although some of his saves make be think he isn’t at times. As stated elsewhere, he is part of the defence which is generally regarded as crap by our usual standards so he’s had a tougher time than Shmeics and the rest.
Whatever Hey pay him is obviously too much but that’s the way wages in the PL are going. Bale gets £600k pow for gods sake. I hope he does sign and soon.
Whatever Hey pay him is obviously too much but that’s the way wages in the PL are going. Bale gets £600k pow for gods sake. I hope he does sign and soon.
Our best player easily the last 6 years.
If he signs a new contract now (with reported P$G interest) , he will be a absolute legend in my eyes.
If he signs a new contract now (with reported P$G interest) , he will be a absolute legend in my eyes.
Still think that these are great news. I truly believe that last season was an exception, rather than him suddenly becoming a shit keeper. Even last season he had 10/10 performances, like the one against Spurs, and while reflex keepers might decline early, he is still just 28 so he should have another 4-5 years before he starts declining.
With him back at his best, AWB and hopefully Maguire, our defense should be much much stronger (actually it would be our strongest point).
With him back at his best, AWB and hopefully Maguire, our defense should be much much stronger (actually it would be our strongest point).
Just seen the updated thread title. Out of curiosity, what's that work out to per week?
On another level, only 8 months ago he was widely regarded as the best keeper in the planet and even got into (typically La Liga dominated) FifPro best XI. Him being bad for a few months doesn't make him a bad keeper forever. If he turns out to his best (and I see no reason why he won't), he would still be in the discussion for the best keeper in the world with the likes of Ter Stegen, Oblak and Becker.
375k. Though I would be surprised if some part of the salary ain't performance/success-based.
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His distribution being crap is overstated. He was certainly good with it when he first joined and was decent enough at it when LvG was in the dugout. I anticipate that he'll get back to those levels this season as its a prerequisite for Ole ball.
Boom.
We definitely shouldn't be giving him the captain's armband, as is being reported in several places now.
A captain should be vocal, driven and above all, a fierce leader. DDG is none of those things - he barely marshals his own area and never opens his mouth. The only GK I've seen that I thought 'yep, that's a leader' was Schmeichs. I am a former GK and I do not support giving a keeper the armband - the captain, for me, needs to be fully in the mixer for 90mins. Especially not a keeper who barely speaks.
A captain should be vocal, driven and above all, a fierce leader. DDG is none of those things - he barely marshals his own area and never opens his mouth. The only GK I've seen that I thought 'yep, that's a leader' was Schmeichs. I am a former GK and I do not support giving a keeper the armband - the captain, for me, needs to be fully in the mixer for 90mins. Especially not a keeper who barely speaks.
Totally agree
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