dutch neutrals
dutch neutrals
sorry @Ecstatic but there's no need for any other input the criteria is as clear as day.
Hendrik and Johannes are not the same first name and now you must pick a player with the first name of Hendrik.
- Who has the same 'First' name as someone who is already in your team - First word of real name. E.g. For Cafu first name is "Marcos Evangelista de Morais" - The player you pick must have Marcos as part of his full name.
Fear not though, theres a nice 72 silver rated GK you can use
https://www.futbin.com/19/player/9032/Hendrik Van Crombrugge/
Agree. Both really shouldn't stand.
hadnt even noticed that, it's invalid aswell. That box is a shit one to land on early on in the game but just have to get on with it and suck it up. Theres plenty of people out there called leonel, maybe not many with the first name of hendrik johannes though
So his name was Hendrik Johannes Neeskens?
We should have a dispute resolution clause for the next drafts!best draft ever
whats the point in criteria if it can just be so easily circumvented. Legally, his name is Hendrik.
The rule is pretty clear tho:
First word of real name and Wikipedia as an arbitrary source.
tbf both are well known as Johan so you can understand the rationale behind the pick and why it should maybe count but Lionel and Leonel is just insane
And from this day forward I’ll be calling you Hendrik. I suggest others do the same.
I have a huge problem with ecstatic keeping his players as he's my opponent, and on this place you could put wimbledon 97 players around cruyff and neeskens and they'd still win votes.
Yeah sure but the criteria states very clearly first name not "known as" hence the cafu example. Literally bolded the first part of his name and everything so EAP didtbf both are well known as Johan so you can understand the rationale behind the pick and why it should maybe count but Lionel and Leonel is just insane
No, it's just you being boring.
So he has to find a player with the name Hendrik Johannes. Perfect.
Fair play, thanks
I agree entirely. But theres debate to be had there from a legal point of view. With first names there simply isn't. its crystal clear that his first name is Hendrik, or if we want to take harms research into account, his first name is Hendrik Johannes. I'll permit you to select a player with Hendrik as the first name though, you know, to help you outPart of the game that most of you wants me to have a max of sheeps I'm fine
My case set aside, for example, what the point of having a box "Players not born in Europe/SA" if the outcome is to have a lot of French/Dutch/.. who played for European countries at the international level?
I mean the spirit of the law - in these drafts - should always prevail, and ideally from a football standpoint. So, a European country should be defined by its participation in the Euro and so on...
Fair play, thanks
In the spirit of the draft I have no problems with you keeping both Johan's as that is the name they are known. The rules needed work and that's why I mentioned doing a full restart early on(that ship of course sailed). It seems that as we advance through the ladder every rule is challenged creating issues.Part of the game that most of you wants me to have a max of sheeps I'm fine
My case set aside, for example, what the point of having a box "Players not born in Europe/SA" if the outcome is to have a lot of French/Dutch/.. who played for European countries at the international level?
I mean the spirit of the law - in these drafts - should always prevail, and ideally from a football standpoint. So, a European country should be defined by its participation in the Euro and so on...
Fair play, thanks
That's a better argument. Although still it's mostly on Edgar
I think that in those criterias you should go by mod's judgement so that the pick wouldn't go against the spirit of the draft — but that should be written in the OP (any arguable decision goes to the mod) and it isn't.I bet you'd have a problem with it if you were facing him
yeah of course mate, you do have your say on it and if we're going by the rules I agree that it isn't a valid pick. My point was we either allow some leeway (as you and me will land on that box at some time and would have issue as well) or go strict by the rules.
think Edgar needs some help here. I bet he has around 10 alerts each time he logs in and his PM box is bombarded with requests..That's a better argument. Although still it's mostly on Edgar
Honestly think in order for the draft to remain competitive and fair, every bit of bad luck that can happen to players should happen otherwise you'll have a small amount of teams that everyone will know is going to win the draft. There will be many more meltdowns i'm sure
fixed
What happened to it being a fun draft? Let him have neeskens.
It’s much more fun for him to not have Neeskens
I'm loving it mate
. Never been happier to be a neutral.I have no clue honestly. For some weird catholic reason I suppose.
