But City managed to sign Alvarez from the same team and bypass the £100m tax the Portuguese clubs add to the valuations of these players. But you're right, I guess fans will always be more excited about potentially signing the latest £100m man on the market than signing the same player for £10m before all the hype.
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But City managed to sign Alvarez from the same team and bypass the £100m tax the Portuguese clubs add to the valuations of these players. But you're right, I guess fans will always be more excited about potentially signing the latest £100m man on the market than signing the same player for £10m before all the hype.
If the sale happens before the summer I think we will get him because we will hve the money and the upward trajectory. I think Eriksen will be more useful to us if his minutes are managed and if he is used in a more attacking role, bar Bruno there is simply no one else with his vision to see and ability to execute defense splitting passes.
Enzo Fernandez's skillset will complement Casemiro and they will build possibly the best deeplying midfield duo in the PL. I pray he doesnt move in January and we sell before the summer to give us a chance on him.
It matters feck all for FFP whether a transfer is paid in one go or multiple installments though, so either Romano is clueless or the one sharing what he said is clueless. My money's on the latter.
In either case the fee is amortized equally over the full contract length on the buying club's accounts. 120M€ transfer fee and a five year contract means 24M€ a year (+ wages, bonuses) on the books even if the actual transfer fee was paid in a one-off payment. For cashflow purposes it's definitely better to have the payments spread out over a longer period but that's not at all what FFP is about.
Now whether a 120M€ signing would have some FFP implications for Chelsea to begin with is another question entirely, but the payment schedule has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Is that why Maguire got that stupid 6 year deal then?
Amortization purposes may have played a small part but more likely the decision makers at United just thought Maguire would be one of the leading CBs in the PL for the full duration of the deal so they wanted to tie him up for all his prime years.
Chelsea have also used long term deals for some of our biggest signings (for example Kepa, Fofana, Cucurella) when the player is both a huge financial investment and also of the right age profile. Doing so both spreads the yearly amortization on a longer period than a normal 5y deal and also protects the long term value of the asset. Now with Kepa we've seen the downside to a long term deal when the transfer just doesn't work out, just like you have with Maguire. When it works out it's seen as great business but when the player is a flop it's like an egg to the face.
We could try gazump Benfica on their two Enzo replacements
Not really. What's special isn't just his football qualities. Others would still rather pay less for FDJ with that in mind.
Go watch him against Mexico. Argentina in disarray, a goal away from elimination, Scaloni chopping and changing on the go and on comes this kid and takes full control of the game.
In your lifetime you will see hundreds of players who can pass, shoot, press or tackle like this chap but you will see very few that can boss a big stakes game like that under immense pressure. You don't get that at Asda.
That's the main reason I think stats are only any use for scanning, not deciding.
In fairness, I'm not sure we could get a work permit. In any case, we would have said he needed to bulk up and go spend a year in the Championship.
Mind, for some time I got Verón vibes with him and haven't fully shaken that off.
It's easier to be good and effective at dominant teams within their league, rather than a lesser team and still do well against better teams. It's just that you used West Ham being worse than other teams as a stick to beat Rice with, when it should really be a positive.
Julian Alvarez had no issues getting a work permit for City after impressing for River Plate so what makes you think Enzo would have had any problems with it?
When a top club wants to buy a player for reasonably big money (+10M) it's very rare their work permits get denied. For example Chelsea are just about to buy Andrey Santos from a second division club in Brazil and as it stands it's likely even he will get a permit.
The framing here is hilarious
The framing here is hilarious
I would love it if United got sold in Q1 of 23' and then just went and blew everyone out the water in the summer.
Enzo
Felix
FDJ
Bellingham
Diogo Costa
Sesko
Just to fulfill the muppet in all of us
I fear Chelsea will get him as their spending seems to be freely crazy. We obviously can't afford him now, in the summer maybe but he'd be the one signing essentially. So it's picking between Enzo and Joao Felix for making a big splash in the summer. Also depends on when we're sold, but nobody knows what that will bring when we are, and it naturally puts a pause on transfers.
You don’t rate Mbappe?
I would expect us to have a budget big enough to acquire both of them should we wish. On top of a goalkeeper and potentially a right back too.
- Enzo - 120m
- Joao Felix - 100m
- Diogo Costa - 70m
- Frimpong - 30m
Didn’t the recent numbers show that we have the grand sum of £24m left? Unless we want to get into yet more debt of course.
I expect us to spend between £250-300m.
Even if we get new owners who are willing to spend that kind of money, I doubt we could do that and still comply with FFP.
Yeah, I have no idea how much we are allowed to spend. New owners will want to make a big splash though.
Maybe we could sell The Cliff for 2bn or something, i´m sure they (our new overlords) can get creative if neededWe will start creating our own sponsors
Any chance of a number 9?
Maybe we could sell The Cliff for 2bn or something, i´m sure they (our new overlords) can get creative if needed
Sell the naming rights of each seat in the stadium. £10m per season per seat.
seat 127 is now known as the 'Felix wage chair' to the ownership
Actually for a defensive minded player like Rice it's much easier to shine playing for a Moyes set up (ala plucky compact underdog).
Look at players like Gravesen and Lescott playing under him compared to when they got their big move. For all of Moyes' faults his system is perfect for a player like Rice.
It's not a matter of ignoring the roles they're playing - you are assuming that Rice could play as an 8 and be a more expansive passer in a better team, and I don't think there's any evidence of that. Rice has been equally mediocre at passing for England - about 3 progressive passes a game is shocking for the main 6 of a top international side.
How is Chelsea complying with ffp?
The framing here is hilarious
Why am I seeing this Ben Jacobs cnut everywhere these days? He's always banging on about Chelsea. I thought Chelsea was Matt Law's beat.
Complete nobody. Chelsea cheerleader, nothing more.Why am I seeing this Ben Jacobs cnut everywhere these days? He's always banging on about Chelsea. I thought Chelsea was Matt Law's beat.
Also, why does he look like a knock off Stephen Merchant?
It is Matt Law, few in the athletic, too. Jacobs knows very little re. club business as a whole. Unless he suddenly has a source in the new ownership, which i dont think is the caseWhy am I seeing this Ben Jacobs cnut everywhere these days? He's always banging on about Chelsea. I thought Chelsea was Matt Law's beat.
Benfica have said they want to keep him and thank lord for that, hopefully we get our shit sorted by the summer and at the very least nick either him or de jong.
Chelsea are best placed to sign Enzo Fernandez and want to activate the exit clause.
Translation: we dont want to negotiate, pay the clause or feck off
Let's hope no one does because we sure seem unable to.
Yeah means little unless the player himself comes out and says he wants to wait till summer. That would make me happy.
I think Chelsea will end up signing him because they'll know that come the summer window, there may well be much sterner competition for the player.
Mate, that's obviously a negotiating stance. You will get their President to dress like Santa for an 80M profit in 6 months.
That's why I can see him stay put.
You had to go and crush my hopes like that huh?
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