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There has to be a about a 0.1 % chance that he gets sacked before the FA Cup final.
Weak line of reasoning. Honour isn't worth anything if the manager is failingNot right before a cup final he got the club to before giving the job to some crappy Spurs interim manager. Pep couldn't believe his luck
The sad thing is I don't think he's even lost the dressing room. The players are trying out there, they are just being set up to fail.A change is inevitable. I think the lack of options to succeed him had me warming to the idea of him sticking around and nuking the squad but honestly I think he has lost the dressing room and lost his mind - he will be out the door come end of the cup final. Just like the previous Dutch Man Utd manager.
No, nor have I said that.Be interested to know why you feel this squad is Premier League title winning quality.
Ten Hag is just a hopeless manager. Not only did he waste our fortune to buy a bunch of non-United quality players at ridiculous price, his tactic and his in-game management has been a total disaster. There is no other word for it.It does seem really shitty to sack a manager on the eve of a cup final (unless you're a wretched London club) when he's won the right to be there and I still think the sacking of LvG hours after winning a cup final was disgraceful by the club
However...How in the hell are we going to build momentum for the final when your team's fans hate you, the results and playstyle are pleasing no one, and you've got unhappy players in the squad?
He plays 4-2-3-1 with Bayern. Tuchel will play whatever formation suits the squadDoesn’t Tuchel prefer playing with a back 3? With all our CBs injured he will not get to play his preferred formation
How is there a lack of options?Only two reasons I see are lack of quality options, and INEOS will make him play progressive attacking style football similar to his Ajax team.
Mourinho started that shit. They both realised how stupidly easy the fanbase was to rule up and used it to their advantage. Fair play to them.I blame Ragnick for that, he was the one who would routinely throw them under the bus and whip the fanbase up against them. Got to hand it to him, he figured out most United fans.
I think in a one off game these players could beat anyone with a good manager. Worst case scenario just survive until penalties.We aren't going to win the final anyway. His disastrous £400m spending has built a squad with no chance.
We need 10 points from our last 4 games to match the Moyes/Giggs season.
We would also need to score 20 without conceding to match the goal difference
Well this match is proof they can't force him. Also, there are always options. They need to just sack him and hire someone.Only two reasons I see are lack of quality options, and INEOS will make him play progressive attacking style football similar to his Ajax team.
That would include all of Ten Hags signings.Then what is the point, we are so far away, let ETH run down his contract while we get rid of the 20-25 shit players and then the new manager can actually start with a clean slate so that he at least has a hope of succeeding. Anyone coming in this summer will be hounded out again by these players
Exactly he's nowhere near lost the dressing room yet this team performs like an outfit that has.The sad thing is I don't think he's even lost the dressing room. The players are trying out there, they are just being set up to fail.
Three players, mate. One of those just liked tweets. The rest have been thoroughly professional doing what he asks whilst he throws them under the bus.I don't know how anyone can say he still has the dressing room with some of the behaviour of our players this season. They do not respect his authority.
Neither of Fergie, Pep or Klopp could have beaten Burnley with all those injuries, horrible players and structure!Equally matched… with Burnley..
What have we become?
I remember the excuse being used here even back in the Moyes and LVG days, although probably not as much as during Mourinho vs Pogba/Shaw/Martial and then later in the Ole/Rangnick seasonI blame Ragnick for that, he was the one who would routinely throw them under the bus and whip the fanbase up against them. Got to hand it to him, he figured out most United fans.
I don't understand the lack of quality options as a reason to keep him. There is no quality at all in Ten Hag any replacement is an improvement.Only two reasons I see are lack of quality options, and INEOS will make him play progressive attacking style football similar to his Ajax team.
He hasn't lost the dressing room. The players are actually trying and fighting. He's just shit and the players are limited, and he's seemingly incapable of adapting/adjusting to make the most of the tools available to him - which, is a bare minimum requirement at this level.A change is inevitable. I think the lack of options to succeed him had me warming to the idea of him sticking around and nuking the squad but honestly I think he has lost the dressing room and lost his mind - he will be out the door come end of the cup final. Just like the previous Dutch Man Utd manager.
Why a disgrace?Its just a bloody disgrace we have not publicly announced he is leaving at end of the season. Everyone knows the decision has privately been made.
He got booed for subbing Mainoo off and then got booed at full time. I hope INEOS were watching and listening.Tried Amad upfront instead of Hojlund for 30 minutes...which should keep the crowd happy that bash EtH for not playing Amad.
Not much a manager can do if the team gives away a penalty in the last 10 mins every match...braindead players doing braindead things.
Great post, that's exactly what I see too. It's so basic.I'm getting tired of saying it, but we have no plan of attack. Our 'plan' is to win possession high up but our press is shambolic. The frontline go all the way forward to the box without the backline following, leaving the midfield completely open. And since we don't commit everyone to the press it gets broken every time.
Our build up is even more nonsense. When Onana has the ball we lump in forward to Hojlund who isn't good in the air, leading to possession loss. The few times we don't hoof it, our midfielders and FBs/wingers do not provide any movement to make space and break the press.
How has a manager not even tried to address this for an entire season is beyond me. I don't understand it. I'm a rando in front of a computer and even I see it. Why can't EtH?
I just don't see why it's not worth a shot. We are basically handing City the FA Cup at this rate. At least with an interim there's hope that we'll put up a fight. We could actually end this abomination of a season on a high.I've been of the opinion for months that it was pointless to change manager at this stage. So we might as well just wait until June to sack him.
But things are so bad I do wonder if an interim would give everyone a lift as team morale seems to be in the shitter.
Yeah you may be right. But it really got worse under Rangnick imo.I remember the excuse being used here even back in the Moyes and LVG days, although probably not as much as during Mourinho vs Pogba/Shaw/Martial and then later in the Ole/Rangnick season
CL next year is gone (not mathematically, but whatever), so there's that.If this new management has any clue then they will sack him immediately.
Mourinho only targeted certain players, still bad. Unlike Ragnick he knew how to spin it, because there was a kernal of truth to them.Mourinho started that shit. They both realised how stupidly easy the fanbase was to rule up and used it to their advantage. Fair play to them.
They are definitely still trying.The sad thing is I don't think he's even lost the dressing room. The players are trying out there, they are just being set up to fail.
The problem is the fanbase is just of a really, really low quality. They need to be fed a narrative to actually make sense of this sport. Without the narrative they're clueless.I remember the excuse being used here even back in the Moyes and LVG days, although probably not as much as during Mourinho vs Pogba/Shaw/Martial and then later in the Ole/Rangnick season
We need 4 points in our last 4 games to match the Ole/Rangnick season. With Palace away, Arsenal at home, Newcastle at home and Brighton away. There's quite a strong chance this ends up being our worst season in PL history (we also topped our CL group that season before going out against Atletico).We need 10 points from our last 4 games to match the Moyes/Giggs season.
We would also need to score 20 without conceding to match the goal difference
Pretty much. Might as well try beat City in the cup final. Once it's not fecking McClaren. This is just getting ridiculous.If this new management has any clue then they will sack him immediately.