The debate rages on...
Everton's Disallowed Goal
- Thread starter Mindhunter
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You’re on the wind up.
Absolutely. It was a mad play by Sig, the lazy plonker.
Yes, I get that.
I think I could strengthen my interpretation but it would involve posting an awful lot of theoretical twaddle
Your interpretation of actual stuff should be enough on any common sense basis.
Of course he's interfering with the play, if he doesn't move the ball hits him and it's not a goal.
I don't understand why it's even a debate. If that should be a goal, then what's to stop players standing in offside positions and just dummying any shots that come their way?
????????? He had to move to let the ball go in the net.
That doesn't matter, the ref can't know definitely whether he can save it or not.
This VAR is taking the piss. We've a game tomorrow.
Being neutral. The better thing is , as soon as UTD defenders claim an offside (ref clearly saw possiblilty), the VAR “flag” should be raised . So fans dont get that horrible and bitter feeling of celebrating and 90 seconds later !
Throw a flag to show there will be a review.
Throw a flag to show there will be a review.
Should resign Ando just to stay in the penalty box and make faces at the goalie and dodge when theres a shot.
Does the wall interfere with play on a direct free kick?
????????? He had to move to let the ball go in the net.
Let it go that guy for the sake of your sanity .
Had he not moved his legs the ball would have hit him, so he must have interfered with play.
Right.
I am in complete agreement that he was offside.
I just don't see any need for a stupid law like the offside law.
What does it add to the game.
Imagine two people standing in front of the goalkeeper at all times as the midfielders peppered the goal with shots
Wouldn't that be fun?Players can hit a 60m long ball with ease. If the attacker is allowed to stay close to the box without being offside of course he's going to stay there so that as soon as his team mates get possession they'll hit a long one to him and he'd be through. Now that means that the other team needs to keep a man back, preferably two, to mark him. Now what if there are two forwards? 3 men to stay back at all time? Same situation at both ends of the pitch with a gulf of space in the middle between them occupied by fewer players than what were used to.
The offside rule is about 180 years old for a reason. I don't know how you can watch football and think that it would benefit from having no offsides.
So the current situation is better is it.
Play is stopped if a player is judged offside a couple of mm inside the opposition half.
A goal is disallowed because a players elbow or backside is a mm beyond the line of the last defender.
In my opinion, because of VAR, far too many goals are disallowed for miniscule infringement of the offside rule, ruining the fans enjoyment for no positive benefit.
It's because they have to draw a line (literally) somewhere and make it black and white.
4 2 4 playing 4 2 4 I suppose.
18 of the 22 players all about 7ft tall
Plenty of VAR involvement, probably after each launch into the box as they decide who fouled the goalie this time
18 of the 22 players all about 7ft tall
Plenty of VAR involvement, probably after each launch into the box as they decide who fouled the goalie this time
My point exactly. Why?
If he just sits there and does nothing, the ball hits him = offside, and this would have been him not interfering with play.
The fact that he does move, is interfering with play. His action immediately resulted in a goal. If he pulled his leg out the way and the call rolled across the goal and someone tapped it in then I’d see an argument for it being allowed.
it’s such an obvious offside though.
The fact that he does move, is interfering with play. His action immediately resulted in a goal. If he pulled his leg out the way and the call rolled across the goal and someone tapped it in then I’d see an argument for it being allowed.
it’s such an obvious offside though.
Now you're talking about how English football treats VAR rather than why we have an offside rule but in short it's absolutely better like it is now. VAR in the PL is shit however, much more so than anywhere else.
Have they allowed this goal yet or not?
So you want to completely destroy the spectacle of football because players can be judged offside by a couple of mm?
The ref should throw a flag aka American football, even if there is a slight doubt. Stops fans going wild only to be gutted 90 seconds later. Simple
Shows how conditioned you can become. My eyes are still recoveringthat you had to explain this to makes my eyes bamboozled
maybe better than watching 90 minutes of humpty dumpty where the majority of the game is played 25 yards either side of the halfway line.
im not convinced either but wouldn’t mind an experiment in a lower league. Surely the game has moved beyond primary school goal hangers. The offside law, or more to the point, it’s ever changing interpretations are a fecking joke.