Exactly. Fabinho would not be happy starting 15 games a season. We would not want to pay that much for a player with such little impact when we can sign Fred for the same price who will go into the starting 11 as a no.8.
Do you worry that changing the entire midfield in one go will upset the rhythm of the team? I mean your current lot know the runs etc that the front 3 and fullbacks like to make. The 3 incoming don’t know each other’s game never mind the team they are coming into. This season could be a ‘get to know you’ before they take strides. Alternatively they could just hit the ground running like they’ve always played together. It’ll be an interesting gamble for LiverpoolAllison (?)
TAA new CB VvD Robertson
Fabinho Keita Fekir
Salah Bobby Mane
Karius
Clyne Gomez Lovren Milner
Wijnaldum Hendo Ox
Lallana new CF Harry-Wilson
Need at least three more purchases after Fekir. Apparently that's what we're looking to do. Doesn't match up to City's squad obviously but covers a little more for injuries. No more Sturridge, Ings, Solanke, Moreno for example.
Might be that he will ease them in more gradually, as he did with Robinson.
Yeah well we can leave the positioning to pep. I was merely showing the sort of players at the disposal of city and the fact that all of them bar Jorginho will be proven in the pl.That first 11 is way too attacking. Look at the state of that midfield
I don't even know where to start with this.
A Brazilian named Frank?
Impressive. Not sustainable though.
Frange
Are these all his signings? There must be more surely. Hasn’t he signed a good number of flops?
Lukaku and Matic must be considered successful signings due to the impact they had on the team last season. How can anyone dispute that?
Lukaku? Sorry, for the money we spent on him, his contributions are poor. Without looking at the fee, then I’d say his contributions are average.
Surely just 8 of the 9 days were great?
This is not the thread to be discussing this. If you wish to re-post it in a thread appropriate to its content, I'll be happy to indulge.
For 75M, Lukaku got us 27 goals and 9 assists in 1st season.
Yeah. Franco, or maybe just Frak. Absolutely not. The whole thing was boss. Winning the cup was always just a bonus for me.
Last year, Liverpool finished 4th, Man Utd finished 6th.
Been no indication whatsoever of us signing a centre forward this summer. We've been linked with wingers like Dembele and Pulisic but nothing to indicate centre forwards. In fact I think when we want to rest Firmino it'll be Fekir who'll move into the false 9 role because he's probably one of a very select few that can do similar to what Firmino does for us.Allison (?)
TAA new CB VvD Robertson
Fabinho Keita Fekir
Salah Bobby Mane
Karius
Clyne Gomez Lovren Milner
Wijnaldum Hendo Ox
Lallana new CF Harry-Wilson
Need at least three more purchases after Fekir. Apparently that's what we're looking to do. Doesn't match up to City's squad obviously but covers a little more for injuries. No more Sturridge, Ings, Solanke, Moreno for example.
I don't see Klopp changing it all in one go to be fair, probably will be introduced gradually until all 3 are used to each other. However we will have pre season to get them used to each other anyway.
Or maybe, just maybe it was because we had a Champions League run to focus on and rotated heavily in the league costing us probably 6-9 points against Everton, Stoke, West Brom and Chelsea. Similar with why you dropped a lot of points at the end of the 2016/17 season because you moved your focus away from the league and focused on the Europa.Last year, Liverpool finished 4th, Man Utd finished 6th.
If Klopp's transfers are "exceptional" and Mourinho's transfers are only "average", then the only rational explanation for how we managed to finish 2nd is that Mourinho is a much better manager than Klopp!
Will agree with that but for your glaring inaccuracy. Players like Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar etc., will not come to Liverpool. And as you rightly point out too, we wouldn’t have the sort of money to pay such wages let alone sign them. Personally, that doesn’t bother me at our stage of development.
Oxlade Chamberlain rejected a superior contract offer from Arsenal (I don't know how legit the Chelsea one was) because of game time in midfield.
That must be the reason Ox Chamberlain chose Liverpool ahead of chelsea even though chelsea offered him more money.
More begrudary it seems. Try being more open minded and rational.
There's been a couple of academy signings bit I haven't added them as they're not for the first team. He's got a brilliant record of first team signings and although he's not buying players that you would say were world class, he's turning most of them into top quality performers
One should not be judging player transfers by their resale value (lets not forget LFC is still a football club and not a player trading network) but rather by how much they have contributed to the team as a whole. And judging them under those terms not one of them (Solanke might do so in the future, but this is not currently the case) had made anything like a decent contribution to the team in question.
Agreed, the only problem is that Lovern is even worse at defending (overall) than he is, so if there were any CB's that need to forced out of the team he should have been forced out before Sakho was. The same largely applies to Klavan as well.
True, but there was no requirement whatsoever to sell him in January instead of at the end of the season (and it was not like his contract was running out any time soon either). In fact had you kept him till the end and in the process won the CL with him on board, at the very least you could have got a even higher asking price then you ended up getting.
You should have done when Salah got injured, because for me the problem was not that he was injured, nor that Liverpool are too dependent on him and Mane either. The problem was that you did not have any attacking players of a similar quality (like Coutinho) to replace him and that more than anything else (1) that is what cost you your 6th European Cup/Champions League.
True, the problem is that that on its own it would barely be enough to get an attacking player of a simlar quality to Salah/Coutinho. So in that respect selling him is not really an ideal option for LFC.
Were Chelsea not going to play him as RWB though?
Depends on economics I guess. Liverpool spend less on players in general, to build, whereas Mourinho buys for the now. I guess the proof in the pudding will be where both clubs are 4-5 years down the line, and the positions, net loss, etc st that point.Last year, Liverpool finished 4th, Man Utd finished 6th.
If Klopp's transfers are "exceptional" and Mourinho's transfers are only "average", then the only rational explanation for how we managed to finish 2nd is that Mourinho is a much better manager than Klopp!
Spending 75 mil on a cb,60mil on Keita etc is buying players for the now.
Mourinho is a better manager than Klopp.Last year, Liverpool finished 4th, Man Utd finished 6th.
If Klopp's transfers are "exceptional" and Mourinho's transfers are only "average", then the only rational explanation for how we managed to finish 2nd is that Mourinho is a much better manager than Klopp!
Of course, you can see it in a way he plays. Pretty obvious that.
He was never first choice. We never seriously looked into him.
I don’t think it’s fair to judge him on his stint with us since January. The lad didn’t have a pre season, came to us just as our form was trailing off and hasn’t had a summer off in forever due to international commitments.
Sure, lets judge him next season. But i am telling you know, he won't be as good as we was at Arsenal.
