Confidence may explain something like not rushing out closing angle in 1 vs 1, punching crosses, making risky difficult passes... Right now the problem comes from tame savable shot that. It's basic goalkeeping. No team reached a level to prevent shot so that they don't require a goalkeeper making save with his hands.
Confidence is a complex issue: its absence makes humans do stupid stuff. You stand outside yourself watching, worrying. Simple things things that you would normally do effortlessly become trials of your worth. I think this is (among other things) what is happening to Onana and some of the other players.
That is clutching at straws to defend him. It’s a howler from him. The shot had no real pace and was very saveable. He has just not started well for United. Hope he turns it around, but I don’t think he will ever inspire confidence in fans that he has the goal locked down. Tame shots will get past him!
It’s not clutching at anything, it’s an opinion. He saved harder shots than that one and the same game so it’s not his saving ability, and any shot that you don’t have a perfect view of from that distance has the potential to go in. Confidence may be an issue but our defence has not helped him in the slightest. When we stop allowing shots at him inside our own box on a consistent basis then we will see the bets of him. He’s not a shot stopper like De Gea but nobody ever said he was. But even Allison would concede goals in our team. He needs protecting more.
I agree with that - the defence could take a lot of pressure off him by just not allowing as many shots to come at him. Onana doesn’t have the luxury of playing in front of a settled back 4.
DDG wouldn’t struggle.
Neither did DDG for 10 years and yet kept us above a minimum 70% save rating all the time. Onana ran out of excuses fast.
No DDG wouldnt struggle. Neither would he be more than a stop gap solution and neither do you find the type of goalkeepers like De Gea going forward. It’s like saying this cog is optimal for the machine, but it’s the machine that needs changing.
Some of you may want to take a step back and think about the following info and it’s implications -
He’s been shite at saving the shots he’s saved…?
He’s been utterly shite! I’ve never seen a keeper make a worse start to life at the club or any club for that matter.
It's football. Opposition forwards are going to have shots on your goal. The keeper's job is to at least save the easy ones. And from what I've seen of Onana so far, he seems incapable of doing even that.
Brentford had 3 shots on target all game, and they scored from the one that went in the middle of the goal for onana to make a routine save.
Really interesting stats those. I’m not bashing Onana, However, surely all keepers need to be shot stoppers? Otherwise we would see midfielders in goal if it was just down to passing ability.
I'm sorry but the problem is the one he has let in were easy shots or came from his own mistakes.
Number of saves is about the most rudimentary stat you can use for keepers, and laying them out like this doesn't tell you very much. People's chief complaint with Onana is that he is not making routine saves or saves that you would expect any other keeper to make.
And he has literally stopped more shots than…
3-3 draw but felt like a defeat.
Are you sure a football club will sign a goalkeeper not to be a shot stopper?
You’re being pedantic. It’s a phrase, as you know, to describe a style of keeper.
if those are the facts than the team has to worry more about their defending then anything else. It isn’t really a badge of honour in this context that Onana has more saves then the others.
These stats are disgraceful, and as an outside observer I suspect that Man United's defence is more than happy to let Onana be the scapegoat.
I’ve watch him all season for Inter, to know he is a good goalkeeper. My rating of him is just not exaggerated.
All keepers are shot stoppers. If he's not brought in to be a shot stopper then that's a huge problem as he has made 27 saves and conceded 12. Some of those keepers with a perfect record of saves couldn't get to 25. We concede a lot of shots but honestly I don't think any of the shots he's saved was a shot that I didn't expect our keeper to save 100% of the time. He most definitely should have saved more. His only good piece of goalkeeping came in the 2nd half against Bayern after he had already gifted a goal.
This table basically tells how bad our defense has been. It matches our league position, lower mid table.
The fact that the team in front of him is shite does not alter the fact he has been pretty dire so far. Many of the goals he has conceded to date have been soft and that is a fact regardless of whatever your narrative is. I hope he improves and does so soon because at present he does not look fit for purpose.
What was instantly impacted and better was our ability to not be pressed high and dealing with that. Unfortunately, injuries killed our main build up players, so the build up went back to struggling but we still aren't bad under a high press. It's doing anything else where the struggles lie (the Galatasaray goal was a brain fart, unforced mistake, not a pressing forced mistake).
Yeah but what about mistakes and letting in tame shots. Is he top of the list too?
