Football & Sports Betting Thread 2022/2023

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Thanks Rasendori and Big Andy. I think I will get an account on both sites and problem solved. I see there is a Superboost today on William Hill on Salah +1 SOT at Evens. Free money surely?
William Hill are terrible odds though, use Coral.
 

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Thanks Rasendori and Big Andy. I think I will get an account on both sites and problem solved. I see there is a Superboost today on William Hill on Salah +1 SOT at Evens. Free money surely?
On William Hill I see Salah over 1 SOT at 13/10. I'm personally not going for it, as Salah has yet to have 2 shots on target all season. Maybe with the Champions League he'll feel more responsibility to chase for individual accolades. I'm going with a special from Paddy Power Liverpool to Win, Liverpool Most Corners in Each Half & Liverpool Most Shots On Target in Each Half 14/1.

@Deery Cheers, I'll add Coral to my pool of bookies.
 

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Pity about Frankfurt, don’t always chase money but payed off today..

 

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Just use Oddschecker to get the best value each team, can compare doubles, trebles etc. too
 

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Somewhere in the world @ItsEssexRob put his remaining life savings on u2.5 @ 1.0000000000001 in the 90th minute.

 

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Have bet365 removed some stats from their in play games? Sure it used to show much more. Free kicks, fouls, etc
 

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Some decent games tonight. Anyone think Barca and sporting have a chance tonight? There odds are ridiculous and surely worth putting something on them.
 

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I'm sure even the televised games haven't had those stats on recently either. May have to pay more attention next time we've got a prem game on sky sports
I've noticed they only do certain things for televised games, such as player shots on target, etc
 

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I've noticed they only do certain things for televised games, such as player shots on target, etc
Yeah that's always happened.

But it's the stats on the live in play box at the top of the screen, the one where the pitch is viewed seems different.
 

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Yeah that's always happened.

But it's the stats on the live in play box at the top of the screen, the one where the pitch is viewed seems different.
They've changed it slightly, I'm not keen on the new layout they have for the pitch, goalscorers, etc. But then I've migrated away to SkyBet recently as their promotions are much better.

Bet365 used to give £50 free in play bets if you bet £50 pre match, they were money spinners. £50 on over 0.5 goals, to get your money back, then £50 in play on BTTS first half at around 3/1-4/1 used to be the best. Now they give you a free £5 bet once in a blue moon.
 

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They've changed it slightly, I'm not keen on the new layout they have for the pitch, goalscorers, etc. But then I've migrated away to SkyBet recently as their promotions are much better.

Bet365 used to give £50 free in play bets if you bet £50 pre match, they were money spinners. £50 on over 0.5 goals, to get your money back, then £50 in play on BTTS first half at around 3/1-4/1 used to be the best. Now they give you a free £5 bet once in a blue moon.
Yeah their offers have gone down hill but their odds are still usually the best for footy.

They do the shots on target @ 2.00 now and again too like skybet.
 

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Liverpool vs Ajax and Bayern vs Barsa look good for the over 2.5..
Anyone fancies them?
 

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I was missing my usual English footie 20*ov1.5s acca already… so that, I even made 2 for this evening games.
 

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My picks for today (made this morning)

Luton to win
2,10​
Fail
Norwich AH-1
1,96​
Returned
WBA without conceeding
2,24​
Fail
DNB Shakthar
2,25​
Returned
Milan&Chelsea&ManCity&PSG&Real to win
3,30​
Fail
Sevilla to win
2,15​
Fail
Real to win
1,54​
Win
France to win
1,53​
Win
Slovenia AH-16.5
2,11​
Fail

Edit: Added the outcome column. What a terrible day this was
 
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French meltdown on the 3rd period almost resulted on an unexpected defeat. Extra time now.
 

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Limited to 10p by all the main UK bookies. Which hurts, especially for horse racing.
 

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Man City will be the ones to bust the accums won’t they…
 

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What does this mean they only allow you to bet 10p? Did you win too much?
Not a lot generally. You get restricted if any of the following apply. You win consistently, you consistently use offers that the bookmakers promote (e.g. free bets, price boosts, extra places), you consistently bet on horses midweek on non favourites, or you consistently bet a horse at odds that beat the starting price.

Just a matter of time. The sad fact is if you remain on the main bookies for a substantial period with no restriction it's because you have a losing betting pattern. Sad but true, there is no competition between bookie and punter. If the algorithm flags you you're gone, just a question of when. They all have a system that scores you according to the above criteria and more and if you're any threat you get limited. Doesn't even matter if you win or lose.
 

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Not a lot generally. You get restricted if any of the following apply. You win consistently, you consistently use offers that the bookmakers promote (e.g. free bets, price boosts, extra places), you bet on horses midweek on non favourites, or you bet a horse at odds that beat the starting price.

Just a matter of time. The sad fact is if you remain on the main bookies for a substantial period with no restriction it's because you have a losing betting pattern. Sad but true, there is no competition between bookie and punter. If the algorithm flags you you're gone, just a question of when. They all have a system that scores you according to the above criteria and more and if you're any threat you get limited. Doesn't even matter if you win or lose.
I’ve never been restricted but I only bet for fun, probably am on a losing algorithm, just waiting on my big day to come in.

They shouldn’t be allowed to do that though proper shady business gambling glad I don’t have a problem with it.
 

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I’ve never been restricted but I only bet for fun, probably am on a losing algorithm, just waiting on my big day to come in.

They shouldn’t be allowed to do that though proper shady business gambling glad I don’t have a problem with it.
It is, especially because of the way it is promoted and advertised which is genuinely dishonest. They make it seem like you can actually win or there is a competitive element. You can win individual bets, even a series, but not consistently. At the end of the day they're in the business of plundering losing accounts, but they're not happy to take the odd profitable account despite mammoth profits. They restrict you to 10p rather than banning you so they can say they never ban. They should have to provide more transparency about their restrictions.

I've also had it where I've won a big bet and you withdraw and they throw up every obstacle due to the KYC checks they're now supposed to do. They use it as an excuse to grill you, getting all sorts of documents out of you and delaying payment. They don't do this when you wish to deposit of course, oh no.
 

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It is, especially because of the way it is promoted and advertised which is genuinely dishonest. They make it seem like you can actually win or there is a competitive element. You can win individual bets, even a series, but not consistently. At the end of the day they're in the business of plundering losing accounts, but they're not happy to take the odd profitable account despite mammoth profits. They restrict you to 10p rather than banning you so they can say they never ban. They should have to provide more transparency about their restrictions.

I've also had it where I've won a big bet and you withdraw and they throw up every obstacle due to the KYC checks they're now supposed to do. They use it as an excuse to grill you, getting all sorts of documents out of you and delaying payment. They don't do this when you wish to deposit of course, oh no.
It’s a down right disgrace that they limit your account if they think you’re a risk to them.
 

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It is, especially because of the way it is promoted and advertised which is genuinely dishonest. They make it seem like you can actually win or there is a competitive element. You can win individual bets, even a series, but not consistently. At the end of the day they're in the business of plundering losing accounts, but they're not happy to take the odd profitable account despite mammoth profits. They restrict you to 10p rather than banning you so they can say they never ban. They should have to provide more transparency about their restrictions.

I've also had it where I've won a big bet and you withdraw and they throw up every obstacle due to the KYC checks they're now supposed to do. They use it as an excuse to grill you, getting all sorts of documents out of you and delaying payment. They don't do this when you wish to deposit of course, oh no.
You should of drip fed your money into your exchange better and accepted more losses. I do matched betting to a degree too.... but do it my own way now, lost my initial accounts in no time because I followed it too strictly ... now I have a 2nd and 3rd account with minimal management and effort that I haven't lost the key stuff on in about 2 years, maybe it is inevitable, but that's a good run. But I don't aim for massive FT equivilant money either.... and I still enjoy betting naturally too. I'll probably max out at about £4k total profit this year.... bit down from 5k last year, but I experiment more with how I do the bets to keep the accounts alive for sure. No massive interest in becoming a proper trader... but I guess I toy with ideals of it.

I more or less only use Bet365, BFSB, Paddy, SkyBet, Wills, Coral, Fred and Lads (x2 of course)
 

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Not a lot generally. You get restricted if any of the following apply. You win consistently, you consistently use offers that the bookmakers promote (e.g. free bets, price boosts, extra places), you consistently bet on horses midweek on non favourites, or you consistently bet a horse at odds that beat the starting price.

Just a matter of time. The sad fact is if you remain on the main bookies for a substantial period with no restriction it's because you have a losing betting pattern. Sad but true, there is no competition between bookie and punter. If the algorithm flags you you're gone, just a question of when. They all have a system that scores you according to the above criteria and more and if you're any threat you get limited. Doesn't even matter if you win or lose.
I've been hounded out by Betty Fair and Paddington Power so far but I try to fly under the radar by keping things relatively small and spreading my activity over the lot (Billy Hill, Coral, Ladbrokes, SkyBet, Virgin Bet, 32Red, Bet365, BetFred, 888Sport, Betway and very rarely, Unibet and BetVictor). It also means I get to juggle around £50-£100 in free bets every week. Last month I was able to net around £2K just off the freebies.

I'll probably get limited soon but they probably take pity on me because of all my near misses with my Bet Builders and accas being one away. I should start using the acca insurance I suppose.
 

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You should of drip fed your money into your exchange better and accepted more losses. I do matched betting to a degree too.... but do it my own way now, lost my initial accounts in no time because I followed it too strictly ... now I have a 2nd and 3rd account with minimal management and effort that I haven't lost the key stuff on in about 2 years, maybe it is inevitable, but that's a good run. But I don't aim for massive FT equivilant money either.... and I still enjoy betting naturally too. I'll probably max out at about £4k total profit this year.... bit down from 5k last year, but I experiment more with how I do the bets to keep the accounts alive for sure. No massive interest in becoming a proper trader... but I guess I toy with ideals of it.

I more or less only use Bet365, BFSB, Paddy, SkyBet, Wills, Coral, Fred and Lads (x2 of course)
I'm not even talking about match betting, I did that years ago and moved onto value betting horses. On horses there's no chance, you get done over in no time, really doesn't matter what you do once you beat SP. Bet on a low class affair and you'll be gone quicker than you can make a cuppa too.

Sure there's all kinds of "strategies" for avoiding getting restricted on promotions but for the most part they don't work as well as people think because they underestimate the bookies methods. They're not fooled by a slightly worse match or dumb accumulators thrown in, and all that stuff is also an opportunity cost in terms of efficiency.

Yes guy A will keep an account open longer while throwing in random bets, taking bad matches etc, and then subscribe all his success to that but then you'll get another guy who doesn't who can last just as long. You'll get someone banned in a week as well for a few matched bets.

Point is it's a matter of time generally, depends on the bookie and a bit of luck but the bottom line is they all catch up with you in the end whether you're a winner, matched better, arber, value better. It's way too easy to see smart money as a bookie, all the data is in front of them.
 
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