2 man midfield
Last Man Standing finalist 2021/22
Didn’t he come out about a week back saying how much he wants to retire at Barca?
That was before Ten Hagrid got on the blowerDidn’t he come out about a week back saying how much he wants to retire at Barca?
As long as he'd be earning less than Pogba it would be a net improvement. At 24 he'd be a mainstay in our midfield for years too.He’s on silly money isn’t he? Personally i hope we don’t go for anyone earning that sort of money, strip back to basics for me.
Thought he was on more than that. Will check it out tomorrow but i recall him being on close to or circa €400k per week (gross) which translates closer to at least €18m gross pa. But yeah, not really sure where I read that or which reports are reliable. Was always under the assumption that Barca offered him an eye watering salary when he joined.Quick Google Search and he seems to be on 10 million euro's base (gross), rising to 16 million. That fits with our wage structure.
Not crazy different from what the likes of Varane, Sancho, de Gea are reported to be on then.Thought he was on more than that. Will check it out tomorrow but i recall him being on close to or circa €400k per week (gross) which translates closer to at least €18m gross pa. But yeah, not really sure where I read that or which reports are reliable. Was always under the assumption that Barca offered him an eye watering salary when he joined.
Indeed, we’re known to hand out silly contracts too soon but agreed, we could generally “afford” him and I wouldn’t mind him but we’d need to blow a large portion of our transfer budget in that case. He’s quality though.Not crazy different from what the likes of Varane, Sancho, de Gea are reported to be on then.
But it seems that it is including bonuses.
Lumping Ziyech in with VDB and saying he looks average. My lord Really!?People raved so much about many of the Ajax side that did so well a few years back. We have seen a fair few lookign average at other clubs like ZIyech amd VDB for example.
Been disappointing for Chelsea. I think that is his point. Been struggeling for playing time for a Chelsea side where they really lack a really good RW.Lumping Ziyech in with VDB and saying he looks average. My lord Really!?
Been brilliant every time I tuned into Chelsea last 3 months (which isn't that often). Must be pure coincidence then.Been disappointing for Chelsea. I think that is his point. Been struggeling for playing time for a Chelsea side where they really lack a really good RW.
Spent more time on the bench this season than starting. Has not really changed. He is in and out.Been brilliant every time I tuned into Chelsea last 3 months (which isn't that often). Must be pure coincidence then.
Isn't he starting more often than not right now?
I've seen this line about the old Ajax players trotted around often, but De Ligt, Ziyech, De Jong are starters for their respective teams. I don't know why people expect standout Ajax players to also be standout at top clubs rather than just good. The only real flop is VDB who is way closer to Dest in ability than the aforementioned players.
It’s become clear that VdB is the perfect system player than anything else. He has a bit of everything that helps systems tick over. IF we get ETH I’d expect to see VdB back at UnitedBeen brilliant every time I tuned into Chelsea last 3 months (which isn't that often). Must be pure coincidence then.
Isn't he starting more often than not right now?
I've seen this line about the old Ajax players trotted around often, but De Ligt, Ziyech, De Jong are starters for their respective teams. I don't know why people expect standout Ajax players to also be standout at top clubs rather than just good. The only real flop is VDB who is way closer to Dest in ability than the aforementioned players.
Will never happen, but he and Rice would be an absolute dream and I’d gladly spend the £200m it would take.
I said he looked a class above them, maybe read the post properly before respondingLumping Ziyech in with VDB and saying he looks average. My lord Really!?
You said nothing of the sorts about Ziyech. Are you okay?I said he looked a class above them, maybe read the post properly before responding
People raved so much about many of the Ajax side that did so well a few years back. We have seen a fair few lookign average at other clubs like ZIyech amd VDB for example.
For me DeLigt and DejOng stood out way aboved the rest. I think DeJOng is quality, think he fits Barcelona perfectly too and unless he gets pushed out by some of the youngsters, I think he would be mad to move personally.
Dont see it happening at all, but wouldbe all over him if truth, as someone else mentioned, him and Rice would be a grat midfield partnership potentially....but again...potential prices, sadly rules out moves for either or Bellingham being prudent this summer when we realistically need up to 7 signings, even though that is unlikely ot happend either, we really NEED to make a bare minimum of 4
There's no vomiting emoji .Will never happen, but he and Rice would be an absolute dream and I’d gladly spend the £200m it would take.
Oh how you brought me down (down, down)Will never happen, but he and Rice would be an absolute dream and I’d gladly spend the £200m it would take.
You have to be joking....i wouldn't give 2 tesco sandwiches for Rice to come to United alongside Frenkie. Frenkie won't leave Barca as he has no reason to do so based on how they have turned things around with Xavi. Only way he leaves is if they need money to balance the books as he's their biggest asset to sell.Will never happen, but he and Rice would be an absolute dream and I’d gladly spend the £200m it would take.
Erm I am fine and have no idea what you are on about but thanks for the commentYou said nothing of the sorts about Ziyech. Are you okay?
Rule of thumb with Marca is all Real signings the reported figures are upfront, net, no variables, no agents, both for wages and fees. If it's Barca or anyone Real are missing out on, the opposite applies.Thought he was on more than that. Will check it out tomorrow but i recall him being on close to or circa €400k per week (gross) which translates closer to at least €18m gross pa. But yeah, not really sure where I read that or which reports are reliable. Was always under the assumption that Barca offered him an eye watering salary when he joined.
Yeah, you’re not making it any easier antoRule of thumb with Marca is all Real signings the reported figures are upfront, net, no variables, no agents, both for wages and fees. If it's Barca or anyone Real are missing out on, the opposite applies.
The Barca likewise, and so on.
Then the British press pick the numbers up (unbeknown to them if gross or net) in Euros and report them as pounds, not that it makes that much difference these days.
"Baller"What a baller this guy is...
Virgil van Dijk. de Jong is overrated.The only world class player we (the Dutch) have.
He single handedly turned the game by taking the ball on the turn and dribbling out of the German press numerous times.Virgil van Dijk. de Jong is overrated.
There's countless games for Ajax, Barcelona and Holland where he's dominated in top games. As @VanDeBank said above, his ability to resist pressing opposition and break through an oppositions press changes games. I mean, he singlehandedly convinced the footballing world that Donny was a competent player by carrying him in so many big European games."Baller"
Oh. My. Word
Let's see him put in these performances in games that actually matter. The Germans outplayed Holland till they couldn't be mithered and brought on inferior players.
Countless? Baring the season where Ajax reached the semi final of the Champions League, he's underperformed for both Holland and Barcelona. Yes, he's had some good games for Barcelona and he played well in the nations league (glorified friendlies) when Holland reached the final.There's countless games for Ajax, Barcelona and Holland where he's dominated in top games. As @VanDeBank said above, his ability to resist pressing opposition and break through an oppositions press changes games. I mean, he singlehandedly convinced the footballing world that Donny was a competent player by carrying him in so many big European games.
Dreadful in the Euros? Thought he was in contention for best team of the group stage.Countless? Baring the season where Ajax reached the semi final of the Champions League, he's underperformed for both Holland and Barcelona. Yes, he's had some good games for Barcelona and he played well in the nations league (glorified friendlies) when Holland reached the final.
He was dreadful in the euros last season and he's doing better under Xavi than he did under Koeman but for the love of Christ.. Let's take it easy.
We're incredibly biased in this country and we have a tendency to get carried away far too quickly, something we tend to accuse the English of I'll have you belief.
What? Him and Dumfries were the best players in most Euro games, with the exception of the Czech game, when everyone was shit.Countless? Baring the season where Ajax reached the semi final of the Champions League, he's underperformed for both Holland and Barcelona. Yes, he's had some good games for Barcelona and he played well in the nations league (glorified friendlies) when Holland reached the final.
He was dreadful in the euros last season and he's doing better under Xavi than he did under Koeman but for the love of Christ.. Let's take it easy.
We're incredibly biased in this country and we have a tendency to get carried away far too quickly, something we tend to accuse the English of I'll have you belief.
Okay, let's take out the Ajax games.Countless? Baring the season where Ajax reached the semi final of the Champions League, he's underperformed for both Holland and Barcelona. Yes, he's had some good games for Barcelona and he played well in the nations league (glorified friendlies) when Holland reached the final.
He was dreadful in the euros last season and he's doing better under Xavi than he did under Koeman but for the love of Christ.. Let's take it easy.
We're incredibly biased in this country and we have a tendency to get carried away far too quickly, something we tend to accuse the English of I'll have you belief.
Somehow I totally forgot about Van Dijk. We have two.Virgil van Dijk. de Jong is overrated.