Watch him Robert. He's a right scoundrel.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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It's pointless pal. Laporta said it himself that he'll need to take a pay cut if he wants to stay, and yes I know he doesn't have too and could stay on his current contract, but if he was to do that, Barca would literally make him enemy number 1, no question.
He doesn't want a pay cut, and likely won't take one either, so he's either staying on his current contract, which he is fully entitled to do, albeit unwise to do so, or he's leaving after they sort everything out
I know I'm just at a loose end today
It's an absolute mess. I think when the money from the second lever comes, Barca might make him a good offer to pay off what he feels he's owed, meaning he leaves the club.
Whether or not they actually do that, or just get giddy and go on a spending spree remains to be seen
Barca gonna Barca
Maybe he could but it could hurt his case to get his money is what i have read atleast.
It is your right to doubt FDJ and i understand you.
BUT i refuse to believe that Ten Hag and the club would chase someone not willing to come, maybe under Woodward but not now!
He gets his money if he stays. Barcelona are contractually obligated to pay him it.
And its in his best interests to stay put to receive that money isn't it?
If he leaves, he ain't getting anything.. unless Barca fold and pay, at least a good portion of it.
As another poster pointed out above, they aren't even doing anything to freeze him out. He's part of the tour, going to play, he's not been left behind, not being ignored... life is carrying on.
This applies to most of us fella. The speculating is what makes transfers such fun. But it’s an educated rational guess based on info available rather than a headless belief of every bit of crap published on Twitter.
Exactly. For someone who seems absolutely impeccable with detail and meticulous in preparation it strikes me as odd he is just wasting his time on this. Just doesn't match what we know of his character.It is your right to doubt FDJ and i understand you.
BUT i refuse to believe that Ten Hag and the club would chase someone not willing to come, maybe under Woodward but not now!
They (Barca and their PR) can spin it all they want - apart from possibly the barca fans who would argue if he loved us that much why didn't he take a pay cut and write off the money owed - I'd like to think that most of those in the football world or who follow football know what Barca have done and are doing to their players
If he stays he gets his money. So he is free to come out and state that he wants to stay.
Perhaps it is stubbornness or ego. Managers can be like this.BUT i refuse to believe that Ten Hag and the club would chase someone not willing to come, maybe under Woodward but not now!
Of of course... they'll be making all these plans of essential stuff that needs sorting, the money will land in their bank and Laporta will be like:Barca gonna Barca
"Lads, lads it's here!! Get Mendes on the phone... now you idiot! €80m for Silva, make it happen! Kounde, yeah Kounde, Get him in too! Azpilicueta? Alonso, screw it, we hit the jackpot boys! Get all the players! Oh and someone order an all you can eat feast, were celebrating today!"
Or he's literally given him his word. Both are very possible.
Except he can't be forced to do either. The current contract both he and Barcelona signed is still legally binding.
Excatly! Ten Hag is not the guy who wants players that dont want to play for him,from what i read he is pretty ruthless when it comes to getting rid of players not buying into his tactics or want to fight for the team.
And he has and I'm confident he will again once the cameras are before him again on the tour asking questions.
TBF he has been on holiday and literally arrived back to jump on a flight out of Spain.
They've a game in 2 days and then Real in 6 days. I expect we'll get a quote by Real at the latest stating his happiness again with Barca.
As I've said above many times, he can stay on his current deal and he has every right to do so, even if the consequences are dire for Barca. It was Laporta that said he needs to accept a pay cut to stay.
I don't think it'll get that far though, a resolution will come soon and he'll move on I imagine
I should really have just pointed out player roles, rather than such extremes as that's not what I was implying.
You are of course correct.
It could be, but would he risk it in his first make or break season at United chasing ghosts? i highly doubt it mate.
If he messes up his first transfer window, it's not going to make a good impression with the board is it? They'd probably take more control of upcoming windows
How can he give him his word on a situation he can't control?
"Erik, I will join once I will receive money I am owed".
No certainty he'll get that, he can ask / demand Barca pay up, but they won't and I think you know it.
I'm confident he won't because he'd have done it already.
He literally liked a post on Instagram yesterday saying he's unhappy with Barcelona. It takes two minutes to post something, ending all speculation for good and he can fully concentrate on his career at Barca.
Once again he hasn't done this.
That's not the discussion though. The discussion is that he must have indicated to Ten Hag in some way he's interested for us to still pursue.
How the bloody hell can everything be agreed with Barcelona and then he goes on tour with them. They have also signed 4 or 5 players and can't afford to pay him his defered payments. Crazy?
If asked anything on his future I'd say he'll likely ignore it, change the question or just say I can't talk about it or something to that effect. If he wants to shut it down for good, he'll take that opportunity but my guess is he really wont
Yeah im pretty sure Ten Hag does not want to take risks when we are chasing Champions League.
Levers... magical, crazy levers that give Barca mucho cash... temporary cash all be it but enough to lead them into a false sense of security.
Plus FdJ is still their player so he can go on tour with them if they so desire him too
I don't think he'll even get put in front of a camera. Either Barca or his agent will advise him otherwise if indeed there is a standoff on the money.
It is the discussion it is *THEE* discussion.
It's what is holding up the transfer isn't it? Money owed?
But he's spoken with Ten Hag.
15 more pages and the situation hasn't changed? This thread should be locked until there's actual news. It's in the top 3 posts every time I log in, I get excited only to have to scroll through pages of the exact same posts over and over again.
You replied to someone suggesting ETH has received assurances from him. You disagreed.
Why would they wish for him to go if they don't want him. If he picks up an injury the deal could be off. Anyways I think we are taking a big risk if he doesn't really want to come here.
Yes and no doubt he's said if I can get the contract situation sorted I will join.
Doesn't scream to me he is dying to be here, more reluctantly so.
The only British journalist I would listen to is David Orstein. And you’re right Sky does talk a lot of crap especially this Keveh and Dharmesh.
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