Future of Trumpism

[Boycott]

The future of Trumpism is a gradual, slow decline. Eventually, in a decade or so, it will become a hardcore of Q-Anoners arguing amongst themselves as to whether Q was a Deep State plot to divert their attention from real electoral politics, or, even worse, whether Q was Barack Obama himself.

I have to disagree with you here.

We're in the era of extremely online politics.

Trump's 2016 election opened the floodgates for a loud but hidden in a corner fringe of people to feel vindicated and be represented in the highest office. We've seen people in other nations and other continents try to emulate Trump's rhetoric and share the same conspiracies. Qanon is a conspiracy about evil people in the US government yet there have been marches across the globe about it. That lunacy isn't going back in the bottle with Trump out. Qanon will probably carry on through under Biden except the person/people behind it will now make out that under a liberal president the evil people in the US government are thriving once again and it will encourage violence and threats to low-level bureaucrats.

What Trump did was mobilize a group of previously disengaged and apolitical people who were the type of people who used to think being apolitical was cool. These people were never liberal minded at all and probably hated Obama due to racial prejudice but at the same time looked at Republicans like George Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney as representing elites and the business class who like globalism. Trump ran against globalism and somehow portrayed himself as the anti-elite candidate despite being born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Trump got those people engaged by hating the same people and same things they do and kept them engaged by being the extremely online conspiracy deviant which plays on their priors. It's just easy and convenient to convince people there is a hidden external factor that is blocking their dreams and progress rather than the real tangible causes.

There is not going to be a moderation. Trump has lost but he built a cult that the Republican party is scared of. More and more people are being radicalized through the online sphere where conspiracies run rampant across the globe. If in 2016 the Republican party bent the knee to the leading birtherism conspiracist enabling that right-wing conspiracy over Obama's birth certificate to be vindicated, then in 2024 the litmus test will be over Qanon.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

In a few years we'll all be laughing about the long term ineffectiveness of Trumpism, as we sit around the burning tyres deciding which one of us gets sold as meat to the Elite classes.

 

[Raoul]

The future of Trumpism is a gradual, slow decline. Eventually, in a decade or so, it will become a hardcore of Q-Anoners arguing amongst themselves as to whether Q was a Deep State plot to divert their attention from real electoral politics, or, even worse, whether Q was Barack Obama himself.

This will depend one whether the crazies in the post-Trump Presidency migrate from places like Fox and Twitter towards, OANN, Newsmax and Parler. Ultimately, the name of the game is to control an audience with a narrative and manipulate them as needed to achieve desired effects. Fox has been been doing this successfully for a long time and Trump perfected the art of using Twitter to control his audience. If Fox fall out off love with Trump and Dorsey bans his account for spreading lies once he leaves the WH, then chances are he will struggle to keep hold of the. MAGA audience they will fragment back into the political underground.

 

[GlastonSpur]

I have to disagree with you here.

We're in the era of extremely online politics.

Trump's 2016 election opened the floodgates for a loud but hidden in a corner fringe of people to feel vindicated and be represented in the highest office. We've seen people in other nations and other continents try to emulate Trump's rhetoric and share the same conspiracies. Qanon is a conspiracy about evil people in the US government yet there have been marches across the globe about it. That lunacy isn't going back in the bottle with Trump out. Qanon will probably carry on through under Biden except the person/people behind it will now make out that under a liberal president the evil people in the US government are thriving once again and it will encourage violence and threats to low-level bureaucrats.

What Trump did was mobilize a group of previously disengaged and apolitical people who were the type of people who used to think being apolitical was cool. These people were never liberal minded at all and probably hated Obama due to racial prejudice but at the same time looked at Republicans like George Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney as representing elites and the business class who like globalism. Trump ran against globalism and somehow portrayed himself as the anti-elite candidate despite being born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Trump got those people engaged by hating the same people and same things they do and kept them engaged by being the extremely online conspiracy deviant which plays on their priors. It's just easy and convenient to convince people there is a hidden external factor that is blocking their dreams and progress rather than the real tangible causes.

There is not going to be a moderation. Trump has lost but he built a cult that the Republican party is scared of. More and more people are being radicalized through the online sphere where conspiracies run rampant across the globe. If in 2016 the Republican party bent the knee to the leading birtherism conspiracist enabling that right-wing conspiracy over Obama's birth certificate to be vindicated, then in 2024 the litmus test will be over Qanon.

Except the things that Q predicted - and whose every word was adored and pored over by Q-Anoners - all failed to happen. Trump lost the election and there were no mass arrests of Hillary and the like (the supposed 'coming storm') etc etc. Their hugely inflated balloon has been punctured and the hot air is slowly hissing out.

I've no doubt many Q-Anoners will flock to other fantasies, but for some the illusion has been shattered. The trust in Trump - as some sort of demi-god, ordained for victory - is diminished. And in a few years he will likely be dead anyway, since the life expectancy for someone of his age, obesity and history of drug abuse (of which I've little doubt) is not great from here onwards.

Yes, the era of extreme online conspiracies and misinformation will continue, but I think that with Trump's departure from office we've seen the high-water mark. The tide has started to turn.

 

[Eckers99]

The future of Trumpism is that it goes back to being called plain old fascism.

 

[psychdelicblues]