Galacticos - ESPN series

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Anyone watched yet? Just watching the 3rd episode and some of the stuff they did was so absurd - such a circus of a club :lol:
 

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Aren’t they currently investigating them and Barcelona regarding this?
No, it's about keeping their status as supporters' trust back in 1990 and getting certain tax exemptions as a result of it. Osasuna and Athletic Bilbao also involved

Btw big thank you to GifLord for this!
 

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Will certainly give this a watch over next week.

Real Madrid were going along nicely up to 2003. Always felt while he wasn't to blame personally the Beckham signing was one too far in terms of the approach given Perez refused that summer to sign anyone to replace Makelele and they also had mediocre CBs so they won nothing and became more showbiz.

By next summer damage had been done particularly as likes of Figo and Zidane were well into their 30s by then.
 

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Letting Makelele go was a disaster, but mostly it was the combination of lack of control at every level of the club that was the killer. For most of the 03/04 season the team was still pretty great, then injuries, loss of form, lack of quality alternatives and a coach/president that lacked the ability to rein in the players started the collapse

Capello would go on to send Ronaldo off because he was uncoachable and his presence made the whole team uncoachable, in 2007
 

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Figo - 4.8 m euros, 32, 2006
Zidane - 4.8 m, 32, 2007
R. Carlos - 4.5 m, 31, 2007
Ronaldo - 4.8 m, 28, 2008
Beckham - 4.8 m, 29, 2007
Raul - 7.2 m, 27, 2010

How was Raul rewarded with such a crazy contract compared to the rest of the galacticos?
 

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Figo - 4.8 m euros, 32, 2006
Zidane - 4.8 m, 32, 2007
R. Carlos - 4.5 m, 31, 2007
Ronaldo - 4.8 m, 28, 2008
Beckham - 4.8 m, 29, 2007
Raul - 7.2 m, 27, 2010

How was Raul rewarded with such a crazy contract compared to the rest of the galacticos?
From what I have seen in some old news, the contract was signed by Lorenzo Sanz shortly before the arrival of Florentino.
Mc Manaman had signed a very good contract and Raúl took the opportunity to press the club,since there was interest from Juve and he had a very low clause. In fact, for a time he became the highest paid in the world ahead of Batistuta
 

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Salaries from 2005
Figo - 4.8 m euros, 32, 2006
Zidane - 4.8 m, 32, 2007
R. Carlos - 4.5 m, 31, 2007
Ronaldo - 4.8 m, 28, 2008
Beckham - 4.8 m, 29, 2007
Raul - 7.2 m, 27, 2010

How was Raul rewarded with such a crazy contract compared to the rest of the galacticos?
So, United were paying higher wages in 2005?

Keane was on somewhere around 80-90k GBP per week, which if I have the conversion rate per a google search, 1 GBP was about 1.45-1.50 Euro in 2005 (averaged over 12 months). Keane was right around Raul's wage. It also means Veron was earning more at United than any Real player from 2001-03 and guessing at Chelsea/Inter as well. Ruud was reportedly on 4m GBP per year by 2005.
 

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Letting Makelele go was a disaster, but mostly it was the combination of lack of control at every level of the club that was the killer. For most of the 03/04 season the team was still pretty great, then injuries, loss of form, lack of quality alternatives and a coach/president that lacked the ability to rein in the players started the collapse

Capello would go on to send Ronaldo off because he was uncoachable and his presence made the whole team uncoachable, in 2007
I remember a fair bit of the 03/04 season as in previous seasons Sky Sports would always show what was actually scheduled for the Saturday and Sunday evening games even if it was just 7th v 8th. Instead they went totally mad with Beckham and just showed every single Real Madrid game even if it was played at 1pm on a Sunday for delayed coverage. :lol:

Started the season with plenty of wins but always felt like built on a piece of string and first warning sign is I remember a game v Sevilla where Real Madrid were about 3 down in 20 minutes and eventually lost 4-1 with Pavon useless. Dani Alves first amazing game in europe that was. Then results really went downhill after losing cup final to Zaragoza, out of CL and losing to likes of Osasuna (3-0 in Bernabeu) and Real Murcia who were Sheffield United standard that season.

Perez did try to fix things in the non-sexy areas the next summer, signed Walter Samuel and errrr Woodgate for CB and think Gravesen came in for DM that season with Pablo Garcia also but big bust was Camacho not lasting long as coach and spent half the season under a caretaker and it didn't work if it wasn't Del Bosque.
 

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Figo - 4.8 m euros, 32, 2006
Zidane - 4.8 m, 32, 2007
R. Carlos - 4.5 m, 31, 2007
Ronaldo - 4.8 m, 28, 2008
Beckham - 4.8 m, 29, 2007
Raul - 7.2 m, 27, 2010

How was Raul rewarded with such a crazy contract compared to the rest of the galacticos?
Net or gross?
 

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I remember a fair bit of the 03/04 season as in previous seasons Sky Sports would always show what was actually scheduled for the Saturday and Sunday evening games even if it was just 7th v 8th. Instead they went totally mad with Beckham and just showed every single Real Madrid game even if it was played at 1pm on a Sunday for delayed coverage. :lol:

Started the season with plenty of wins but always felt like built on a piece of string and first warning sign is I remember a game v Sevilla where Real Madrid were about 3 down in 20 minutes and eventually lost 4-1 with Pavon useless. Dani Alves first amazing game in europe that was. Then results really went downhill after losing cup final to Zaragoza, out of CL and losing to likes of Osasuna (3-0 in Bernabeu) and Real Murcia who were Sheffield United standard that season.

Perez did try to fix things in the non-sexy areas the next summer, signed Walter Samuel and errrr Woodgate for CB and think Gravesen came in for DM that season with Pablo Garcia also but big bust was Camacho not lasting long as coach and spent half the season under a caretaker and it didn't work if it wasn't Del Bosque.
Camacho was in a way the emblem of the galacticidio. A club legend with a reputation as a tough but fair disciplinarian, brought in to try and rein in the players. He resigned 3 months in, before the season even started :lol:
 

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Camacho was in a way the emblem of the galacticidio. A club legend with a reputation as a tough but fair disciplinarian, brought in to try and rein in the players. He resigned 3 months in, before the season even started :lol:
That was summer 1998 I think.

2004 he came in with likes of Walter Samuel (who was class defender in Serie A but surprisingly flopped at Madrid) and lasted a few games.

Dropped Becks and Raul to the bench v Espanyol and was sacked a few days later so player power pushed him out. Seems he resigned anyway!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2004/sep/20/sport

Edit; I quite liked his work with the Spanish national team, done with his penalties in both euro 2000 and world cup so interested how he'd got in if he'd been there a few years before instead of Del Bosque who was the perfect fit as manager in those times.
 

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Letting Makelele go was a disaster, but mostly it was the combination of lack of control at every level of the club that was the killer. For most of the 03/04 season the team was still pretty great, then injuries, loss of form, lack of quality alternatives and a coach/president that lacked the ability to rein in the players started the collapse

Capello would go on to send Ronaldo off because he was uncoachable and his presence made the whole team uncoachable, in 2007
I know people like the way Perez has been running things at RM.
Economically, sure, he knows what he is doing, but he isnt all that when it comes to the footballing aspect of it, plenty of failed transfers and dumb decisions over the years.