If that really is the case and talk like that is coming out then I really do fear for him.
This is likely true because Tuchel is known to be extremely tactically astute and innovative in training. He has been praised for that where ever he has been and it crossed my mind once Potter was appointed whether he can fully keep up in that aspect. What is also worrying is he doesn't seem to be ruthless and is too much of a nice guy. Teams are often the reflection of their manager and Chelsea look too soft and timid.
Ziyech runs less in a club game than old man Messi does. Pulisic does a ton of work, gets nothing for it because he had no end product in pass or scoring, then is out again because his hamstrings are made of tinsel. Havertz … thinks he’s playing futsal, and then not only loses every 50/50 encounter, he pours for a few minutes after each one because he’s confused why other people are allowed to weigh more than 110 lbs.
There's still no way Potter keeps his job if he finishes outside top four this season, and again next season. I'm guessing he'll actually be sacked if they don't drastically improve this season. I get they have injuries, but there's literally zero positives from a footballing perspective so far. Some Chelsea fans are clutching at straws over a few little passages of play here-and-there.
No thanks.
I mean we stormed to a pretty easy top of the group finish beating Milan home and away, after Tuchel lost the first game against Zagreb. So I'd say you are wrong.
See what I mean? These really aren't some amazing positives. Ole best AC Milan ffs. Keep those straws clutching, you'll eventually see he's not a top level manager.
See, the thing is, Chelsea, in particular Chelsea, can’t afford to care about the dressing room.
You said literally zero positives. I gave you positives, and you pivoted to 'well they aren't amazing positives'.
Ah fair enough. I don't really see much positivity with beating those two sides but each to their own. I also didn't find many positives when Ole was winning games either, as it was clear he was out of his depth.
I hear what you're saying. I just don't agree that we have enough information yet to say he's out of his depth, and if you're saying it, I don't think it's based on anything other your feelings about Potter in general. So you think he's always been overrated, it makes sense that you think he would be out of his depth at Chelsea. I, on the other hand, rated him very highly at Brighton and therefore think he needs more time.
See, I don't think he's 'always been overrated'. I feel he done fantastic in Sweden, ok at Swansea and pretty well at Brighton. However - just like Franck at Brentford - I would attribute the succes of both clubs on how they're run, as opposed to who's managing them. That's not to say both aren't talented managers, but I don't see either as top level managers.
Not a single one of them is better than what we already have, and what we already have isn't exactly world class.
Really? Mason fecking Mount? Damn, I thought it was bad in the dressing room, but not that bad.
Seriously? What have any of them ever shown in the PL that they are good enough?
At least he had a core of good players that worked well and weren't injured - also him and Thiago had already a very good relationship so that must have helped a lot (especially since Thiago was/is unquestionable as per performances). How he talked and trained with the players nobody can say but safe to say he immediately reached a critical mass and they understood, wanted to and were able to follow.
I totally agree with you mate. If there are dressing room issues, you basically have 2 choices, back the players and keep the manager, which is probably easiest hoping for a short term fix, or back the manager and rid the dressing room. Most clubs do part 1 these days, i backed arsenal to do part 2 with Arteta partly because we weren't achieving anything with those players anyway.
And to top things off, he's fecking shite also.
He’s playing a two man game with Declan Rice, and they are using each other as leverage, just in different ways.
As far as I can see, Chelsea’s bizarre behaviour started quite a while before Boehly. In the past when they’ve made bad mistakes in recruitment they’ve tended to rectify them swiftly. Now they just compound their errors by making more of them.
I mean, if half of that is true it is Potter mistake to play him again yesterday. Or ever again, quite simple.
Valid point on having to corral that many new people.
I think what the poster is essentially saying is that player power is mental at Chelsea and always has been, which we kind of knew from the Terry days. The problem is you need a strong manager who's won things in that environment, not someone like Potter who they have absolutely no respect for.
With Terry and Lampard, it was somewhat understandable. But Mason fecking Mount?
You need a strong manager, yes., but it doesn't need to be someone with the CV of Ancelotti. Most important is that you need a strong board, who has belief in the manager and will back his decisions.
Well, they DID think about it from the start.
Well, it's massive shit atm.
Do you have any evidence for this, or are we supposed to take this stuff you say at face value? A cursory google search, even a twitter search, brings up nothing.
Well that's all fair enough. But they's still got this season to think about. And the next one. Don't you think that getting an experienced interim in to deal with a squad that's far away from being Potter-ready would have bought some time, as well as getting more out of the ragbag of signings brought in last summer at great expense?
As you say, he now has a series of winnable games and if Chelsea end up accumulating close to maximum points, I'm sure they'll be close to top 4.
A lot of people talking a lot but they don’t speak for me. I never advocate for sacking any manager and I sure as hell don’t want Tuchel back. It’s a thank you for your service but 7 months of shit football and a terribly organized pre season leaving us far more unfit than any other team in the beginning. He definitely deserved to be fired.
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One of those games where we basically camped in their half for the first 30 minutes and really should've killed the game off then and there. Then they made a few early subs and we totally lost momentum of the game. One of the more annoying dropped points this season, I agree.
It’s all about perspective innit. I thought we made those changes and managed to wrestle a foothold in the game and it was a pretty even game for much of the remainder of the game. It was one of those games I thought Potter showed good instinct and in hand management, even if he was only correcting his own mistake.
On top of that, despite their dominance for large parts of the game I never had any feeling they were going to score. Until we did, granted against run of play, but in the end it proved to be a boring game with only a couple of real chances.
