Seen them, not saying he's never scored a top goal. I'm just not sure he can drag a team to victories and leagues. Right now I think he's more dependant on his team mates than say Suarez or a young Rooney.
You could have said the same about Shearer. I was a huge fan of Shearer and while he scored a few from distance, he wasn't a game changer in the way that Rooney, Henry and Suarez were at their best.
Yeah agree with all that. Whilst I don't think he's the guy who can transform a team he would be a brilliant addition.
Well, that sums up your ridiculous, pre-determined attitude.
What makes you think that? Rooney played first team football from 17 onwards. Kane finally got his chance at Spurs when aged 21 (may be 20 would need to check). He did go on a few loans before that granted, but he hasn't played the same amount of football time wise as Rooney did at his age. Would be interesting to check minutes played and see if thats an accurate statement I guess.
Exactly - no idea what that guy is on about. Utterly bizarre claim. I assume then according to him that Pogba only has 4/5 years left in him max considering he has played more top level football at the same age as Kane and is almost 24? So dumb.
It's not a bizarre claim at all to suggest Kane might peak at 24/25. Plenty of players do including Messi. I just don't think Kane is going to improve much more past his current level which is hardly a cause of such outrage as he's already arguably the best striker in the league.
I think people were reacting more to this claim:
That he may be reaching or have already reached his peak isn't that controversial. And if he scores as he has the last seasons that would hardly be bad. But I don't see anything in his game that suggests he will quickly decline. His game is mostly about finishing and clever movement, not something you're likely to suddenly lose at say 28.
So in your opinion then, having a poor period at the club in 6th place is more of a problem than having a poor period at the club in 2nd place.
A guy like Mario Gomez also scored a shitload of goals, who the hell ever feared him?
Fair enough. I just don't think he's going to be banging in 30 goals a season still at 28 but time will tell.
That's still different from "decline quickly".
Also played in a far superior PL, which is something that is not being contextually factored into Kane's feats, as good as they seem.
Lol, yeah sport and athletes are always moving backwards, never advancing physically, technically and mentally etc.
Good grief. You really need to stop. You can't possibly dream of arguing this one. One played in what has been the peak of PL-era football with countless representation in Semi-finals and finals of the CL, the other plays at a time when English clubs can't even get to the QF's of the CL. One played against, and did very well, against peak best CB's on the planet, the other does not.
The PL not doing as well in Europe doesn't mean the standard in the PL is regressing, quite the opposite there are many contributing factors. The overall standard hasn't declined, the lower level teams have more money than ever and can attract better players than ever. There are more top coaches and continuous scientific and technical advances improving standards.
Hmmmm. I think that's a wash. Torres played in a Liverpool side that almost won the league. United and Chelsea were good then. Arsenal were 4th as per. The rest of the league arguably wasn't as strong in relative (ie when all 20 teams are judged against each other) terms as it is now.
Even if you look at the centre-backs in the league of the time, on an intra-league basis, the very fact they were the best in the CL makes them a greater prospect than anything Kane has ever faced. Facing perennial CL semi-finalists and finalists brings up the standard of the entire league, just as facing sides who are making disgraceful showings in the CL, lowers it collectively. Those teams who had to face literal CL-chasing top-end teams had to do more to get a result simply because they were facing the best teams on the continent to do so.
See my post above.
Kane is a far more rounded player than Mario Gomez ever was. It's a pointless comparison.
Not arguing for the sake of being a dick. But that's my point.
Think it's probably that mate. The fella is a great first time finisher, you rarely see him take two touches. He's a good one touch passer, he rarely dwells on the ball. I don't think anyone would point at him and say he needs too much time to be effective.
Best example I can give is when Utd played Spurs at home this season. Kane was very underwhelming because of Utd's pressing. Suarez for example thinks faster than Kane does.
I don't see having an objective discussion as either party being dickish. Kane's a hot topic, so he's going to be held to the scrutiny of strikers at the higher end of the game.
Funny, I seem to recall Kane taking Terry apart and making him look like a total donkey.
How old was Terry then?
Right, because close-to-retirement-Terry is the same as world class Terry in his prime.
