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Sir Alex Ferguson for nearly 20 years managed to expand the use one class of players from the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Gary and Phil Neville, John O shea, Wes Brown, Nicky Butt, Fletcher, evans and many more during that period. I keep wondering - a 20 years of dominance from a group of players all revolving around the same age group +-3-5 years, having the understanding of playing together from a young age right up until they retired or left - its madness. These players were not just sitting on the subs - they formed the core basics of our team with other players usually bought providing the cutting edge around these guys.
Whether it were players like Cole & Yorke playing upfront or later on Rooney, Tevez & Ronaldo - these players that won us our games were playing behind a core basis of Manchester United who understood how to play the football that they had grown up with. Whether it was Stam or Vidic & ferdinand playing in defence - these guys were still part of our defence & it was understood what needed to be done on the day they walked out on the pitch. The same thing is seen by the busby babes and the likes of charlton & best afterwards.
They formed the core basics and environment that we should play around. Even towards the end of the tenure SAF had managed to win a title by using a player like Cleverley being one of our main midfielders during that season whilst including Rafael who had played in our youth team also. Then what happens? Januzaj is our own shining light during Moyes's tenure. LVG's tenure lead to the introduction of player like Rashford, Lingard, TFM, Varela looking like our last shining light during that period. What happens when Giggs takes over manager for a few games? Wilson scores a double on his debut. What happens under Jose - nothing much, players like TFM & tuenzebe get loaned instantly whilst we break the bank paying 90 million pounds for a player who was already in our youth system in Pogba. Players like Rashford look lost and there seems a significant gap between our youth team & our first team.
My question is - have we done enough? Do we need to do this more?
What's stopping us from unearthing the class of 2019? Or do you believe this was just a one off coincidence that we managed to get top class players when we did?
In my opinion we can buy all the players we want but we will simply not have the ability to play like a Manchester United team without playing our youth players in a path to take over our core basic understanding of the football that we play; something they do from as kids.
It's not method made up - we have arguably the best youth teams historically in the PL alongside clubs like Southampton, Arsenal & Liverpool. I look at teams like Barcelona who constantly introduce players from their youth team who end up becoming better than nearly anyone they bought. The same with Ajax, the same with Bayern, the same arguably for Juventus or Milan back in the day. The same for Monaco, the same for Lyon - the list is endless.
Hell look at City, they seemingly missed out on Sancho whilst still using foden - players that dont look strictly out of depth. I look at Liverpool right now and I am more jealous about their use of players like Alexander Arnorld & Joe Gomez having the ability to play their type of football for 10-15 years rather than the type of football they are getting from players like Salah or VVD who may not be there in 2 or 3 years time.
I think it needs to happen - a group of 5 or 6 players to come up soon and just play first team football & i'm pretty confident that it will get us playing a more team orientated type of football that revolves around the core understanding of our great club. This is one of the main reasons I want a homegrown bred manager like Giggs, Butt or Carrick. Success will come soon after.
Whether it were players like Cole & Yorke playing upfront or later on Rooney, Tevez & Ronaldo - these players that won us our games were playing behind a core basis of Manchester United who understood how to play the football that they had grown up with. Whether it was Stam or Vidic & ferdinand playing in defence - these guys were still part of our defence & it was understood what needed to be done on the day they walked out on the pitch. The same thing is seen by the busby babes and the likes of charlton & best afterwards.
They formed the core basics and environment that we should play around. Even towards the end of the tenure SAF had managed to win a title by using a player like Cleverley being one of our main midfielders during that season whilst including Rafael who had played in our youth team also. Then what happens? Januzaj is our own shining light during Moyes's tenure. LVG's tenure lead to the introduction of player like Rashford, Lingard, TFM, Varela looking like our last shining light during that period. What happens when Giggs takes over manager for a few games? Wilson scores a double on his debut. What happens under Jose - nothing much, players like TFM & tuenzebe get loaned instantly whilst we break the bank paying 90 million pounds for a player who was already in our youth system in Pogba. Players like Rashford look lost and there seems a significant gap between our youth team & our first team.
My question is - have we done enough? Do we need to do this more?
What's stopping us from unearthing the class of 2019? Or do you believe this was just a one off coincidence that we managed to get top class players when we did?
In my opinion we can buy all the players we want but we will simply not have the ability to play like a Manchester United team without playing our youth players in a path to take over our core basic understanding of the football that we play; something they do from as kids.
It's not method made up - we have arguably the best youth teams historically in the PL alongside clubs like Southampton, Arsenal & Liverpool. I look at teams like Barcelona who constantly introduce players from their youth team who end up becoming better than nearly anyone they bought. The same with Ajax, the same with Bayern, the same arguably for Juventus or Milan back in the day. The same for Monaco, the same for Lyon - the list is endless.
Hell look at City, they seemingly missed out on Sancho whilst still using foden - players that dont look strictly out of depth. I look at Liverpool right now and I am more jealous about their use of players like Alexander Arnorld & Joe Gomez having the ability to play their type of football for 10-15 years rather than the type of football they are getting from players like Salah or VVD who may not be there in 2 or 3 years time.
I think it needs to happen - a group of 5 or 6 players to come up soon and just play first team football & i'm pretty confident that it will get us playing a more team orientated type of football that revolves around the core understanding of our great club. This is one of the main reasons I want a homegrown bred manager like Giggs, Butt or Carrick. Success will come soon after.