There would be no grounds to do so. They could release him and pay him off for the entirety of his contract but to sack him would be illegal.
Have we signed anyone yet? | Yes, with stupid tax
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Going to be fun around here when Ten Hag is forced to make the 'I am happy with the squad we have' speech after only signing one of to underwhelming squad players in the final days of the window.
You wold think that unless a player is at least charged they can't sack him , but then again most clubs have players sign 'bringing the cub name into disrepute' clauses in the contract , given the publicity around him Utd may be able to trigger that to end his contract, assuming such a clause exists.
Whatever it will be a huge blow to the club both financially and squad strength wise , cannot see him play for a premier league club anytime soon. His name is too toxic and no club these days will risk the PR nightmare that will unravel by having him in the squad.
What's the point of revamp football structure and scouting department?
The main targets we are going for are so obvious which naturally costs a bomb.
1) De Jong 80mil
2) Nunez 80mil
3) Timber 50mil
3 players already costs 210mil. Is this how we rebuild a club? Do we have so much money?
The main targets we are going for are so obvious which naturally costs a bomb.
1) De Jong 80mil
2) Nunez 80mil
3) Timber 50mil
3 players already costs 210mil. Is this how we rebuild a club? Do we have so much money?
scary, isn't it?
So doubts over moves for Timber and De Jong, Nunez close to joining Liverpool, Pau Torres on Spurs’ list…. this place will be fun!
I do think the club are just tight. Reluctant to pay up for anyone. Everyone knows we’re desperate so quote silly prices. All down to Woodward mouthing off over the years and spunking money on crap. Yes I am blaming him. Still 2 months until the season starts, nobody has really got going in the transfer market.
I do worry we're gonna have a Moyes window. Ugh.
When you consider we also got to replace Greenwood and build half a squad we are in deep shit
We haven't signed even 1 of the 6-7 players we want in this summer. Once again, it is all smoke and no matter.
Sell the club
Sell the club
We've been able to shift a lot of deadwood from the squad already which is good, and likely with more on the way out.
But we are also losing some regular first-teamers in Pogba, Matic, Lingard, Greenwood and Cavani.
To make their leaving worthwhile, we are going to have to bring in at least 5 players you would have thought.
I sincerely hope there is more going on behind the scenes than would first seem. It's looking painfully familiar at the moment.
But we are also losing some regular first-teamers in Pogba, Matic, Lingard, Greenwood and Cavani.
To make their leaving worthwhile, we are going to have to bring in at least 5 players you would have thought.
I sincerely hope there is more going on behind the scenes than would first seem. It's looking painfully familiar at the moment.
What we more people expecting, for all the talk of a new structure, it’s pretty much all the same people who were involved previously just less of them. We’ve also spent lots of time in limbo because of not having a permanent manager and have now appointed someone who will want completely different type of players.
I doubt we are well prepared for the window and if people who’ve failed repeatedly like Judge aren’t still involved in transfers it will be people like Murtough learning on the job. I’m sure we will sign 3-4 players but it will take time.
I doubt we are well prepared for the window and if people who’ve failed repeatedly like Judge aren’t still involved in transfers it will be people like Murtough learning on the job. I’m sure we will sign 3-4 players but it will take time.
When United signed Cavani, we were told that it was a one year deal to give us time to sign a long-term striker as we prioritized signing Jadon Sancho (unsuccessfully)
It was 2 years and we still don't have the long-term striker.
It was 2 years and we still don't have the long-term striker.
We haven't shifted anyone. Players out of contract left. Hardly something a lot of work was associated with
Honestly feels like the club is dead in the water. It really feels like another Moyes-esque window.
That still has to be based on an employees proven conduct though. Even if charged, if he isn't found guilty then the club cannot cite that as a reason for termination. The only option would be to pay it off in one, but I don't suspect they will. He may be integrated back, or be with the reserves or just not be seen whilst his contract winds down.
We do have a legal system for a reason and court of popular opinion/kangaroo court are irrelevant when it comes to a contract.
The De Jong deal is reminding me a lot of the Fabregas attempt in the Moyes Summer. It never seemed likely to happen, but United spent 2 months focusing all their energy in getting him, losing out on many other targets along the way and then eventually losing out on Fabregas too.
Just hope we don't panic buy Fellaini on the last day again.
Would it be acceptable if we let things drag until the final day, then put a bid of 120m on Rice out of nowhere, and West Ham finally say yes?
But Rice is not convinced.
But Rice is not convinced.
Window is not open until Friday
The Liverpool Nunez news is a bit annoying knowing that the only reported movement we've made is chasing a player that doesn't want to come here for a price we don't want to pay
Can’t wait to see mcfred line up for our first game of the season.
It amazes me that after 9 years of failure fans are still desperate to defend the club's competence in the transfer market.
We have 5 signings to make and many players to sell, and yet again we're slow off the mark. And truthfully, if we were anywhere near close to signing someone the media would know. We're a shambles every summer.
Agree , personally I think if a person is not changed or found not guilty I think they should have a right to resume their lives as normal including their job.
But we have to live in the realities of the world as it is now and how big brand corporations(which is essentially what Football clubs are) run scared at the first sign of pressure from media on moral issues , sponsors and corporate partners these days are very easily scared off with the merest hint of controversy of this kind.
Our current squad if we don't sign a starter:
Rashford Ronaldo Sancho
Bruno
Fred VDB
Shaw Varane Maguire Dalot
De Gea
Subs: Martial, Elanga, McT, Lindelof, AWB, Mejbri, Telles
Starting 11 isn't too bad. But the bench is a real drop. Top 4-6 at best.
Rashford Ronaldo Sancho
Bruno
Fred VDB
Shaw Varane Maguire Dalot
De Gea
Subs: Martial, Elanga, McT, Lindelof, AWB, Mejbri, Telles
Starting 11 isn't too bad. But the bench is a real drop. Top 4-6 at best.
Let's be frank, some of the prices being banded about are mental....
nunez all of a sudden 85million
de jong 72 and today barca want 80
pau torres 60
im reading Wolves want 70 for neves today
Maybe its newspaper sh1te, but prices are mental
nunez all of a sudden 85million
de jong 72 and today barca want 80
pau torres 60
im reading Wolves want 70 for neves today
Maybe its newspaper sh1te, but prices are mental
The starting XI is also ridden with glaring holes and underperforming players.
Doesn't exactly help when every man and his dog knows how desperate we are. You'd be mad not to stick a Utd tax on any player we're interested in.
Yeah that's true. Which is why I see more of a scenario where he just disappears i.e. is on the clubs books but never really plays again IF the club want to cut ties. Paying him off in one go wouldn't look good either, I guess.
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Are we inept now because Liverpool (haven't actually signed anyone yet in the real world) have signed Nunez?
No one actually knows how long either club has/hasn't been talking to the player or the club. But hey, we're inept anyway!
No one actually knows how long either club has/hasn't been talking to the player or the club. But hey, we're inept anyway!
Even if we did sign Nunez or De Jong, id still be worried about the direction. It feels the same as the last 6-7 years. I'd almost be more content with signing smaller names if there was a clear strategy behind it.
Are you suggesting we already have signings sorted and we're just waiting till Friday before we announce the big secrets to the world? If not, what relevance is Friday?
Are you telling me @Fridge chutney was off with his prices??
If we were in the CL we would have got De Jong, Nunez as they would have definitely wanted to come .
I do think most of the rumours are nonsense because the journalists literally have no clue what we are up to at this point and so they are speculating and linking us either to the hot name of the moment or anyone who has been to Amsterdam. I am optimistic that when we do hear some concrete news there will be a couple of names in there that we have not been linked to at all.
Things will be slow until the Nations League gets out of the way but the proof of the new approach will come in the period between June 14th and June 27th when our pre season starts. We need to have at least 2 or 3 deals completed so that ETH can get on with coaching the squad knowing what he has to work with. International players may not arrive until a week or two into training camp but knowing who is coming will have an impact on the work that is done with the rest of the squad and we cannot leave our new Manager twisting in the wind.
Things will be slow until the Nations League gets out of the way but the proof of the new approach will come in the period between June 14th and June 27th when our pre season starts. We need to have at least 2 or 3 deals completed so that ETH can get on with coaching the squad knowing what he has to work with. International players may not arrive until a week or two into training camp but knowing who is coming will have an impact on the work that is done with the rest of the squad and we cannot leave our new Manager twisting in the wind.
Nice post, agreed.
Probably they could start working(or maybe thinking) on signings after Friday. Who needs quick signings? Pre season is meaningless anyways.
David Moyes first summer window, written all over it.
Players rejecting us, left right and centre and chasing players who don’t want to join us.
Players rejecting us, left right and centre and chasing players who don’t want to join us.
We are definitely not getting a dm and a rw this summer. Just waste as much time as possible to show they tried everything to get the unrealistic targets.
Its crazy the amounts being thrown around.
Just not sustainable to rebuild in this manner.
We've surely got to go for players lesser known with potential, that won't cost too much.
Would also love it if we actually made an effort to sign free transfers. Like the rest of europe ffs.
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