Nice! Knew I recognised the dagger.Yes and the same one that killed the NK.
Nice! Knew I recognised the dagger.Yes and the same one that killed the NK.
Theyre trying to cover a couple decades in one season so pacing might be an issue.Meh, was alright
- Exact opposite of what many complained about in early to mid seasons of GoT with the slow pacing (which I didn't mind). This was like 5 episodes in 1.
- Did the Hand (Hightower dude) really whore his daughter out to the King?
- When the King talks to the daughter at the end showing her the dagger, was he referencing the white walkers?
Couple decades? Can't wait for the non-aging complaints to start rolling inTheyre trying to cover a couple decades in one season so pacing might be an issue.
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Think they have already casted other actors for playing older characters - at least for the actresses playing Alicent Hightower and Rhaenyra Targeryan.Couple decades? Can't wait for the non-aging complaints to start rolling in
Tbf one is between the opening scene with the council and then the next time you see everyone its 8 years (?) into Viserys' reign then there's a time jump mid way through the seasons where the actors for Rhaenyra and Alicent are switched out. But in between all that there's also a lot of passage of time. So the pacing might be an issue but assuming they'll get a second season this shouldn't be a problem anymore because there's no need for any time leaps anymore.Couple decades? Can't wait for the non-aging complaints to start rolling in
I'm not aware of the GoT lore, so I don't really have a knowledge on Valyrian/Targaryan ethnicities. My point is that the actors should be cast based on whether they're correct for the part. That is including their race. And in my previous reply to you There's an excerpt from the showrunner saying they didn't want more white people on the show. I think that's just misguided white guilt type of idiocy.Not sure what lgbt rights have to do with this convo but ok. Who knew that gay and black people existing is activism.
It's a good thing Velaryons arent Targaryens then. There is no question of legitimacy everyone knows, just cause they're pretending its not the case doesn't mean anything. I mean ffs, the kids all have brown hair when the parents are Valyrian blond. And sits perfectly fine with 99% of the fans, just not the racists.
If GRRM wanted the Targaryens black then he should have made them black. Unfortunately he didn't. Instead he made them of a certain characteristics which tend to be recessive. That means that if Corlys is black then his children would be black and if Rhaenyra's children from her first husband are not black then its evident that they aren't his. The rumours surrounding Rhaenyra's children being bastards was a bone of contention of why they shouldn't rule Westeros. If they happened to be white then that's perfect evidence that they are indeed bastards. Not to forget that the Velaryons and the Targaryens tend to mix quite regularly. So their appearance by now shouldn't be as pale as snow either.
Also note the Velaryons aren't exactly role models at the time. Corlys was close to rebel against the Targaryens and was bribing his way to have his son appointed heir to the IT. He was succeeded by his 'grandson' who was officially his son's bastard which is quite ironic considering that Laenor was gay. Some say that he was actually Corys' son not Laenor's which means that he had betrayed Rhaenys, one of the nicest persons living during the dance. As said Laenor was gay and was derided by half the kingdom behind his back because of it. Meanwhile his wife Rhaenyra slept with half the kingdom. Is this the sort of family you want as role model to the black community?
In my opinion there are way better characters for the black community then the Velaryons.
Hi my devilish mate. I don't get you complaint.Well his mistakes doesn't testify to that. As you perfectly highlighted Rhaenys hair kind of shit on GOT big time and had turned Ned/jon into fools. There can be Baratheons with non black hair after all
FFS, that spoiler should be titled book spoilerOtto Hightower is Lord's Hightower younger brother and is hand of the king. As a minor brother he'd probably had less pressure to marry a Highborn and since he's a Hightower (who rule over Oldtown the second biggest port in all of Westeros) the guy would probably be able to marry whoever he wanted. In fact GRRM couldn't be bothered to give us any details about Otto's wife. Thus it wouldn't be ridiculous to presume that Otto had married a black woman either from outside Westeros or a Sandy Dornish woman (an Uller or a Qorgyle ). After all they aren't exactly that far away from Oldtown and they are quite frightening families to be enemies off. If that's the case Alicent Hightower could be black as well.
Alicent is soon to become Viserys I second wife. She would have 4 children including the rightful king Aegon II and Aemond who would end up riding the last of the conqueror's dragons and the second most powerful dragon the Targaryens had ever had aka Vhagar. Regarding inconsistencies in the lore, well there would be none. Otto/Alicent line will extinguish itself long before Aerys, Danny and co were born.
happy now? Jeez I made it in spoilers and I hinted it hereFFS, that spoiler should be titled book spoiler
Only have myself to blame. Should have known better than to read one of your postshappy now?
No worries mate, you're forgiven. Enjoy the showOnly have myself to blame. Should have known better than to read one of your posts
It is against forum rules and shouldn’t have been posted at all.happy now? Jeez I made it in spoilers and I hinted it here
There is no book spoilers warning in the thread and as said I covered it with the spoiler tagIt is against forum rules and shouldn’t have been posted at all.
TV threadsThere is no book spoilers warning in the thread and as said I covered it with the spoiler tag
Didn't knew that. In that case I apologise and I delete the postTV threads
- any and all information from the original source material e.g. book or graphic novel must be in a separate thread. This sort of material must never be posted in a thread about the TV version, even if spoilered, and failure to comply will result in an infraction.
Was edited in the spoiler thread way back due to the original GoT book goons.Didn't knew that. In that case I apologise and I delete the post
Look it was a genuine mistake. I believed that it was on a thread per thread basis and tbf I took the extra precaution to cover it in a spoiler tag. IWas edited in the spoiler thread way back due to the original GoT book goons.
Thanks for your supportAll the drama about spoilers on this forum, just don't click a spoiler tag that clearly from context isn't gonna be about what just happened on the show.
GoT is officially back now, baby!Was edited in the spoiler thread way back due to the original GoT book goons.
Let me guess at a timeline...Was edited in the spoiler thread way back due to the original GoT book goons.
That's because the sets and everything is just way too clean. No dust, no shit and piss scurrying all over the streets... modern shitty way to do things.Wasn’t getting into it in the first half but the second half was good. The production quality is very good but just feel its a slight notch below the original series. And Idk why but the atmosphere we’re used to of the GOT series is not quite there yet. Hopefully, it builds up that atmosphere as the series goes along and gets better.
Viserys was top notch. Daemon less so and the weakest of the bunch.I thought it was good. Interesting characters, good acting (Viserys especially) and looks fantastic as always.
Daemon's armour is fecking class, similar to all the art and cosplays you see of Rhaegar's.
Only negative was the dragons looked a bit dodgy.
Thought so too. Slightly panto villain.Viserys was top notch. Daemon less so and the weakest of the bunch.
I really enjoyed Viserys tbh... heavy is the head that wears the crown but daemon was right about what he said about him in the end which the scene with Aemma really showed imo. That was really poignant. I also liked Daemon adding a bit of levity in the council scenes though I don't think there'll be much levity going forward.I wasn’t sure about Paddy as Viserys at first as he didn’t strike me as a Targ king, but that made sense by the end. It’s funny about the guy playing Daemon as some people loathe him and others love him, sort of like his real character.
Otto Hightower was cast well I think. As was ‘the Queen who never was’ who has good screen presence, or maybe I just have a cougar crush on her I don’t know…
The actor is not suited for the role. He's too dignified and regal for it. Daemon is a rebel without a cause who constantly lives on the edge. He is an oberyn martell on steroidsThought so too. Slightly panto villain.