ColvaleGoa
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Kobbie should just hold on till Southgate is gone. Pretty sure waistcoat will mess it up in Germany soon.
Think Southgate should be gone if he doesn't win anything this summer regardless. He's had a fair crack, his trusted players are getting older, it's time to bring a new manager in to help phase in the next generation and phase out those outstaying their welcome.Kobbie should just hold on till Southgate is gone. Pretty sure waistcoat will mess it up in Germany soon.
Agreed. He’s had multiple chances to win things but messed them up.Think Southgate should be gone if he doesn't win anything this summer regardless. He's had a fair crack, his trusted players are getting older, it's time to bring a new manager in to help phase in the next generation and phase out those outstaying their welcome.
I don't see why it's too soon for Mainoo. If he can start regularly and perform well for united, why isn't he ready for England?It's probably a bit soon for mainoo to be getting a call up, I would look at Curtis Jones though. Depends how many we take I guess.
That's the real problem imo. Even if Southgate somehow picked Mainoo or whoever, it's not like he can create a functional team with them with his brilliant tacticsI think that double pivot midfield with an advanced player like Bellingham is what's working in modern football currently and suits the players England have in midfield. Phillips has fallen off a cliff and Henderson should be phased out now. Really the only options are Mainoo, JWP and Garner, with Mainoo having the most potential of the bunch.
EDIT: I forgot Gallagher and Jones existed. Having a mare. They'd probably be in over JWP and Garner too, but without Rice the options for the 'destroyer' midfielder is limited.
England actually have a problem now where there are quite a lot of good options in respective positions, they just have a wank manager that is incapable of creating a good tactic with them so he picks the old guard that are past it.
Waitrose meal deal over tescosHe just needs a"few extra pounds" (mostly muscles) then he will be "the real deal"!
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“I think he’s doing brilliantly for a young player. He’s had an excellent start for United. I’m not certain he’s necessarily going to be a defensive midfielder, as such. He’s quite a progressive player, but he’s had a fabulous start to his career and it will be good to monitor him as we go forward.”
Southgate spoke about him briefly yesterday;
Contrary to popular opinion, I don't think he'll be afraid to use Mainoo. If there's a great player who hasn't yet built up his reputation, I think he'll give him chances. No one expected Saka to start every game at the Euros and yet he did. In hindsight, it was the obvious choice but a lot people didn't like it.Southgate spoke about him briefly yesterday;
But the manager isnt so talentedI can’t see England not winning the Euros with or without Mainoo. This squad is stacked in talent.
That is true but hopefully the talent will shine through regardless.But the manager isnt so talented
Southgate will grab defeat from the jaws of victoryI can’t see England not winning the Euros with or without Mainoo. This squad is stacked in talent.
That was generationalThat pass to Dalot
This.Such a promising player but the game can pass him by a little when he's not on the ball. He's going to be a gem though.
Kalvin Philips and Henderson playing every minute ahead of BellinghamSouthgate will grab defeat from the jaws of victory
This really does summarise it. Hope he improves his positioning, awareness etcGreat on the ball, poor off it.
Yep, I don't think there's anything there that would hinder his development and with the right coaching along with the right attitude, he's got all the ingredients to achieve it all.First half the game seemed to be being played too fast for him. He had some flashes here and there, nice feet for the 2nd goal but was a passenger for most of the game. Hopefully as he develops he starts to learn how to get himself more involved in the game.
that will come with with age and experienceThis really does summarise it. Hope he improves his positioning, awareness etc
Agreed. As you say, hopefully this will come with experience. Given how composed he looks when the balls at his feet it's easy to forget how new he is to first team men's footie.This.
It's a fault of our coaching/set up but hopefully with more experience he can learn how to mitigate this too. That casual left footed ball at the end of the 1st half, where he then got booked to stop the counter is the kind of things he need to cut out and learn.
Not closeHow close was he to being offside in the build up to the winner? Anyone got a still of it?
Was waiting for a VAR check and relieved when Villa kicked off...
I remember seeing Messi take on United in the Rijkaard era. He was really good but not some GOAT. But the jump he made year on year was sensational. That’s what Kobbie needs to do. Make jumps every year. Add arrows to the quiver. Become stronger. Become quicker. Become a better presser. Become a dominant passer.He's good without excelling. Feels like he's biding his time. Nothin wrong with that! Good enough to earn his place and learning his trade. I'm waiting for him to take the next step which will come in time.
Messi aye, we're really managing expectations around here.I remember seeing Messi take on United in the Rijkaard era. He was really good but not some GOAT. But the jump he made year on year was sensational. That’s what Kobbie needs to do. Make jumps every year. Add arrows to the quiver. Become stronger. Become quicker. Become a better presser. Become a dominant passer.
He’s 18! Amazing really now that he’s cemented his place in the starting XI. By 23, I expect him to be the best midfielder we’ve had in a long time.
Messi was ridiculous as a kid. 19 when he scored that goal against Getafe and scored that legendary 3 goals against Real Madrid.I remember seeing Messi take on United in the Rijkaard era. He was really good but not some GOAT. But the jump he made year on year was sensational. That’s what Kobbie needs to do. Make jumps every year. Add arrows to the quiver. Become stronger. Become quicker. Become a better presser. Become a dominant passer.
He’s 18! Amazing really now that he’s cemented his place in the starting XI. By 23, I expect him to be the best midfielder we’ve had in a long time.
I think he already has been excelling in parts of the game. Taking the ball out of defence from under pressure, he’s already done at a brilliant level. Add to that a few goal contributions from midfield.He's good without excelling. Feels like he's biding his time. Nothin wrong with that! Good enough to earn his place and learning his trade. I'm waiting for him to take the next step which will come in time.