Beside Juve are the rest broke or just tight. Always looking for freebies, loans and any other deal that does not involve any great deal of money.
Italian clubs - where has all the money gone?
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Italian teams were largely bankrolled by rich men. But the game has grown so much and even richer men have come into the sports that these men have found their limits. Now they are gone. But for a long time their money was a sweet drug for Italian clubs and they did not bother much to grow their own revenue and to adapt to the modern football world. Now they have a lot of catching up to do. It doesn't help that the Italian economy is not doing too well, either.
I am not sure the money is gone, it's more the fact that other big clubs have stepped up financially, while the Italians were unable to do so.
The English clubs earn more and more through TV rights.
The Spanish giants get a huge chunk of the La Liga broadcasting rights.
Bayern were always rich. PSG have oil money.
And then you have the Italians, playing in old, half-empty stadiums, with no where near the global reach that they used to have.
The English clubs earn more and more through TV rights.
The Spanish giants get a huge chunk of the La Liga broadcasting rights.
Bayern were always rich. PSG have oil money.
And then you have the Italians, playing in old, half-empty stadiums, with no where near the global reach that they used to have.
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Serie a is shit from what i remember in the 90s. Not talking about the quality of the football but the stadium, the whole broadcast package seems gloomy, the fans the pitch is dull compared to the bright and sharp premier league.
They miss that window of opportunity and it's very hard to keep up.
The money is in the brand, tv rights and sponsorship. Gate receipt are peanuts these days they barely cover the player wages.
They miss that window of opportunity and it's very hard to keep up.
The money is in the brand, tv rights and sponsorship. Gate receipt are peanuts these days they barely cover the player wages.
Is bayern really rich though? They have the luxury of a one horse team in germany and their prestige with german player meaning they dont have to pay high wages. They're hoarding young german players at basement price it's not even funny
Put them in the pl i dont think they'll fall into the rich club category.
Tottenham now has a higher turnover than Juve.
Bayern have a higher turnover than any club bar United and the Spanish pair. All three of those clubs have far more debt than Bayern.
Yeah. Fair play
They really made the best out of their niche strenght in germany i guess.
90s Italian football was funded by sugar daddies and accumulating debts until bankruptcy. Then the bubble burst and multiple corruption scandals affected the public and political support towards football. Most Italian clubs thus missed the train of globalization.
Counterfeit goods are also free flowing in Italy, hurting some potential revenues. TV rights are very top heavy which impacts a lot the likes of both Milan clubs who don't qualify consistently for CL either.
Counterfeit goods are also free flowing in Italy, hurting some potential revenues. TV rights are very top heavy which impacts a lot the likes of both Milan clubs who don't qualify consistently for CL either.
1) Attendance at the stadiums are growing compared to the last season (+9%), Inter have an average of 65k per game to remind you….
2) Revenues are growing compared to the last seasons (Juventus and Inter are doing great things in this way, especially since Suning came Inter have done a significant step up. Milan are expected to following after the Elliott takeover.)
3) Italian clubs in the last summer have spent more than La Liga,Bundesliga and Ligue 1 clubs. Look more carefully.
4) Real issue is not owning the stadiums. This should be the main change for italian football.
2) Revenues are growing compared to the last seasons (Juventus and Inter are doing great things in this way, especially since Suning came Inter have done a significant step up. Milan are expected to following after the Elliott takeover.)
3) Italian clubs in the last summer have spent more than La Liga,Bundesliga and Ligue 1 clubs. Look more carefully.
4) Real issue is not owning the stadiums. This should be the main change for italian football.
The team that probably killed the Serie A is the only team that's thriving ironically...
How did Juve kill the Series A?
Yeah, as a kid I tried to watch all sorts of football and the best players were in the Serie A so I watched a fair bit of it.
The atmosphere, half empty seats, stadiums with running tracks were terrible to watch compared to the Prem in the 90s.
Serie A in the 90's was by far the strongest league in the world. And when I say by far is really far. And the atmosphere was great too. No comparison with other leagues at the time. But yes they lost the train of the globalization viewing rights.
Probably with Calciopoli is what he's getting at
Serie A clubs had started struggling financially before that scandal broke.
The simple truth is that most Serie A clubs were sugar daddy clubs and the money dried up. Instead of investing in the league and infrastructure, they lavished it on players and wages .
That's the long and short of it.
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Agree with this but Seria A really fecked up badly. They were THE league to watch in the 80s / 90s so whilst I can see where the Premiership benefitted I still struggle to get my head around how La Liga overtook Seria A that quickly.
For me, I think Seria A has much more to offer than La Liga where Barca / Real just dominate with TV rights etc etc. As a league, Seria A has bigger teams almost equivalent to the PL. The Milan derby / Milans vs Juve / Napoli / Roma / Samporia etc those are big clubs who if had the right backing could actually overtake the PL
Nice try, Interpol!
I strongly disagree with you. From Transfermarkt:
In the last 3 seasons only a handful of clubs have invested more than Juventus, Inter and AC Milan
AC Milan just spent € 70 mln for Paquetà and Piatek. € 70 mln in JANUARY!
Inter, under Suning, haven't sold any key player yet and have invested more than € 200 mln net in the mercato. A few names: Joao Mario € 45 mln, Nainggolan € 38 mln, Gabigol € 33 mln, Bastoni € 31 mln, Skriniar € 25 mln, Vecino € 24 mln, Candreva 24 mln and Gagliardini € 25 mln (the only one in the list who was on loan € 5 mln + option to buy € 20 mln). All signed in the last 3 seasons without selling one single regular starter
Napoli.. Most of the people thought they would finish like AS Monaco at the end of the last season and what happened? How many important players did they sell? One. The only good player sold was Jorginho for € 57 mln and then ADL invested € 90 mln on Fabiàn (€ 30 mln), Meret (€ 25 mln), Verdi (€ 25 mln) and Malcuit (€ 12 mln)
Serie A is ok. Balance in the last 3 seasons:
£ 444,45 mln vs £ 176,24 mln and £ 181,07 mln.. More than double than LaLiga and Bundesliga and you ask about Serie A? I'd change the title in: Hey Liga and Bundesliga, where's the money?
PS: sorry if my english is not excellent
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Always stayed in the positive numbers. And as they saw that broadcasting money and income from the stadium are somewhat limited looked out for commercial partners very early. In that aspect it is easier if your country still has a lot football in public TV and not behind the pay wall and that you are the top dog of the most popular sports in a country with a lot of manufacturing companies that are one of the leaders in their industries.
Thanks for posting. Makes for interesting reading. Incredible how the PL clubs are spending above their means. Can't be healthy, though the insane TV money facilitates this. I guess it depends on how clubs use this money, invest wisely and reap the rewards, or risk going bust in the long run.I strongly disagree with you. From Transfermarkt:
In the last 3 seasons only a handful of clubs have invested more than Juventus, Inter and AC Milan
AC Milan just spent € 70 mln for Paquetà and Piatek. € 70 mln in JANUARY!
Inter, under Suning, haven't sold any key player yet and have invested more than € 200 mln net in the mercato. A few names: Joao Mario € 45 mln, Nainggolan € 38 mln, Gabigol € 33 mln, Bastoni € 31 mln, Skriniar € 25 mln, Vecino € 24 mln, Candreva 24 mln and Gagliardini € 25 mln (the only one in the list who was on loan € 5 mln + option to buy € 20 mln). All signed in the last 3 seasons without selling one single regular starter
Napoli.. Most of the people thought they would finish like AS Monaco at the end of the last season and what happened? How many important players did they sell? One. The only good player sold was Jorginho for € 57 mln and then ADL invested € 90 mln on Fabiàn (€ 30 mln), Meret (€ 25 mln), Verdi (€ 25 mln) and Malcuit (€ 12 mln)
Serie A is ok. Balance in the last 3 seasons:
£ 444,45 mln vs £ 176,24 mln and £ 181,07 mln.. More than double than LaLiga and Bundesliga and you ask about Serie A? I'd change the title in: Hey Liga and Bundesliga, where's the money?
PS: sorry if my english is not excellent
Having grown up in an era when Serie A was king, I do have a healthy respect for Italian football. Hard to see how Serie A can catch up with the PL or La Liga though when their European and British counterparts are so ready to dip into their bank accounts whether they can afford it or not.
Your english is just fine BTW! I wish I could speak and write in Italian
I think the clubs who spent above their means are mainly the top 6 sides. I think it's healthy to see every club in the premier league can make important signings. Perhaps the most balanced league in the world.Thanks for posting. Makes for interesting reading. Incredible how the PL clubs are spending above their means. Can't be healthy, though the insane TV money facilitates this. I guess it depends on how clubs use this money, invest wisely and reap the rewards, or risk going bust in the long run.
Having grown up in an era when Serie A was king, I do have a healthy respect for Italian football. Hard to see how Serie A can catch up with the PL or La Liga though when their European and British counterparts are so ready to dip into their bank accounts whether they can afford it or not.
Your english is just fine BTW! I wish I could speak and write in Italian
True 100%