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It's just standard negotiation posturing. If you look back the same thing happened with Pogba (a transfer in the same ballpark price wise), a constant back and forth over price. It's obvious and has been for a while qualifying for the CL is important for our summer budget, so obviously we aren't going to commit to anything before that is confirmed. Anything either side says to the media is just going to be briefed nonsense, neither side is going to say publicly what price they are willing to accept.

Greenwood in a few years, hopefully.
Greenwood really isn't a RW though, especially in a few years. Most his best work in games actually comes through the middle. He's playing there because our options are abysmal, not because it's his natural position.
 

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€120m. Do some of you have any idea how much money that is?

Our cash reserve is less then €100m. All these sums don’t add up. We have repayments of almost 185m over the next 9 months. Even if we sell players for 60-70m, it will be difficult to make some giant purchases this summer.

With the information available, a purchase of 120m up front is not likely as long as there is no decision on when the football crowd is allowed to return to the arenas. It would be financially irresponsible to put the club in such a financially risky situation under the prevailing circumstances. United probably have resources of around £50m plus player sales based on the information provided in MUFC Q3.
 

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Greenwood really isn't a RW though, especially in a few years. Most his best work in games actually comes through the middle. He's playing there because our options are abysmal, not because it's his natural position.
Yep he's not a true RW. Neither our current system would really need one imo. Still we definitely should and need sign Sancho. He's actually not a typical RW either.

Tbh I don't really care how much he'd cost. If we pay a price that means our finance strength can afford that. I'm a fan and I want to see good players play for us. The money stuff, that's Ed's problem I think.
 

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€120m. Do some of you have any idea how much money that is?

Our cash reserve is less then €100m. All these sums don’t add up. We have repayments of almost 185m over the next 9 months. Even if we sell players for 60-70m, it will be difficult to make some giant purchases this summer.

With the information available, a purchase of 120m up front is not likely as long as there is no decision on when the football crowd is allowed to return to the arenas. It would be financially irresponsible to put the club in such a financially risky situation under the prevailing circumstances. United probably have resources of around £50m plus player sales based on the information provided in MUFC Q3.
Our reserves are 90m plus 140m we withdrew from credit and the deal is likely to have add ons worth at least 30m so we`d still pay a realistic fee up front. It only becomes a problem if we don`t get CL but if we do it`s more than affordable financially.
 

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€120m. Do some of you have any idea how much money that is?

Our cash reserve is less then €100m. All these sums don’t add up. We have repayments of almost 185m over the next 9 months. Even if we sell players for 60-70m, it will be difficult to make some giant purchases this summer.

With the information available, a purchase of 120m up front is not likely as long as there is no decision on when the football crowd is allowed to return to the arenas. It would be financially irresponsible to put the club in such a financially risky situation under the prevailing circumstances. United probably have resources of around £50m plus player sales based on the information provided in MUFC Q3.
Exactly people are forgetting that it is very possible that crowds will not be returning back to stadiums until next year. Stop acting like everything is ok. There is no money there. Sancho is still a young footballer. He can run down his contract and by the time United sign him he would still be a very young footballer. As brilliant as he is, he is not that crucial today, to spend 120 million on him. 120 million is at best our entire summer budget and would be unwise to spend an entire budget on one player.
 

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Nothing new. It's been pretty obvious all along any potential bid for Sancho is dependent on us getting CL money.
 

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Looks like we’ve briefed the media today.
 

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Exactly people are forgetting that it is very possible that crowds will not be returning back to stadiums until next year. Stop acting like everything is ok. There is no money there. Sancho is still a young footballer. He can run down his contract and by the time United sign him he would still be a very young footballer. As brilliant as he is, he is not that crucial today, to spend 120 million on him. 120 million is at best our entire summer budget and would be unwise to spend an entire budget on one player.
Crowds are coming back from October and don`t be lied to the money is there 90m in reserves plus 140m in credit it only becomes a problem if we don`t get CL but with that revenue any financial strain gets eased. Problem with waiting for Sancho for a year is if he has another good season and a good Euros competition for him will be high hence why now is the best time to get him with no competition and it could be why Utd are pushing for it now.
 

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I've just found out that Sancho is 5'11. For some reason I thought he was about 5'8!
 

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The muppetiers just put up a thread mentioning how whenever stone puts about a tweet about fee being far apart, it is usually agreed within a week.

They give tweet examples of AWB, Maguire and bruno.

Why do we get excited about reports like this from Simon Stone? A brief thread in pictures.

https://t.co/XRQ5oIzzIl
 

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You think our transfer spending will be the same either way?
Our transfer budget will absolutely depend on CL / Adidas deals and revenue from Match day. However whether we decide to spend the entire budget solely on Sancho or on a number of players will be the question imo
 

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The muppetiers just put up a thread mentioning how whenever stone puts about a tweet about fee being far apart, it is usually agreed within a week.

They give tweet examples of AWB, Maguire and bruno.

Why do we get excited about reports like this from Simon Stone? A brief thread in pictures.

https://t.co/XRQ5oIzzIl
Well clearly they going to get it wrong this time with Stone, since I really doubt this will be wrapped up in 1 weeks time.
 

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May I ask why? I can’t think of a more exciting and perfect signing for the RW spot that we have abandoned for a decade.

I know the drawn out nature of transfers is tedious but there isn’t a more ‘exciting’ option for RW than this lad.
Just a feeling. Sometimes you know a transfer is going to work. Like when we signed Rooney, Ferdinand or Van Persie. It seemed right.

Something about Sancho screams to me that it’s not a fit. And I’ve only seen him play like 4-5 times, but he’s never blown me away.

I’d have liked Pulisic when we had the chance. He’s a United player in a Chelsea shirt
 

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Well clearly they going to get it wrong this time with Stone, since I really doubt this will be wrapped up in 1 weeks time.
Not a week but I'm more confident about this one then any of the other big names we've signed and fairly relaxed about it too
 

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Just a feeling. Sometimes you know a transfer is going to work. Like when we signed Rooney, Ferdinand or Van Persie. It seemed right.

Something about Sancho screams to me that it’s not a fit. And I’ve only seen him play like 4-5 times, but he’s never blown me away.

I’d have liked Pulisic when we had the chance. He’s a United player in a Chelsea shirt
See I feel like Sancho belongs with those names. Like the perfect united signing.
 

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Just a feeling. Sometimes you know a transfer is going to work. Like when we signed Rooney, Ferdinand or Van Persie. It seemed right.

Something about Sancho screams to me that it’s not a fit. And I’ve only seen him play like 4-5 times, but he’s never blown me away.

I’d have liked Pulisic when we had the chance. He’s a United player in a Chelsea shirt
Wow. Sancho screams United player to me
 

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Doesn't sound like they want an opening bid. They have set a price, leave or take.
Well of course that's what they're going to brief. The reality of the situation is likely a different matter.
 

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Crowds are coming back from October and don`t be lied to the money is there 90m in reserves plus 140m in credit it only becomes a problem if we don`t get CL but with that revenue any financial strain gets eased. Problem with waiting for Sancho for a year is if he has another good season and a good Euros competition for him will be high hence why now is the best time to get him with no competition and it could be why Utd are pushing for it now.
You are assuming corona virus disappears by then as told by Boris Johnson. The experts are saying a different thing. Boris is just a politician, he has no idea about these issues.
 

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Not as good as Grealish, but we already have Greenwood starting. If we can get another player with quality on the right who can rotate with him, even if we use Grealish there sometimes, we would always have quality on that flank. What is clear as day as that Greenwood is going to become a star. Even if it means holding out for a year so that we can get Sancho, it would make sense. For me, at this present moment, even though I feel Greenwood does need a quality player to rotate with, I don't think our front 3 is our biggest concern anymore. Both Martial and Greenwood have improved immeasurably since the restart. A partner for Macguire and another defensive midfielder/central midfield that can deputise or take over from Matic/Pogba would be really useful. I would also love to have a versatile attacker that can play in the three attacking midfield positions. We haven't been able to rest Bruno since he came because we have nothing on the bench to replace him with.

My point is, aside from centre back, rather than just signing players who would be designated to one specific position, we can sign a few who are versatile enough and have the mental capacity to perform various roles in the team. If we can strike up a deal for Sancho at a reasonable price, then I would of course go for it without question. However I'm also skeptical of putting all our eggs in that basket in the way teams like Barcelona did for "surefire" signings like Dembele, Griezman or Couthinho. Or even Real Madrid for a proven quality star like Hazard, whilst still winning the league with him missing the majority of the season. The biggest case for this is Liverpool with Couthino. By selling a player that they deemed to be quality for 100m, they were able to sign both Salah and Van Dijk, who at the time, many viewed he was better than. 100m is a lot of money for a player, particularly during this period. Is it wise to spend all of that money on Sancho when players like Ziyech have gone for half the price.
Firstly, are you saying Jack Grealish is better than Jadon Sancho? Because that's just not true if you are.

Secondly, Jadon Sancho can play across the front three. Absolutely. And Jack Grealish hasn't played right wing all season. In fact, he has played on the right 16 times his whole career.

We'll have plenty of football to go around next season. As brilliant as Greenwood is, not wanting Jadon Sancho because of him is just a tad daft. We lack a natural right winger. Jadon Sancho is the best one available by some distance. It's not really rocket science.
 

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Clear sign that we are in advanced negotiations with BVB for Sancho.

As pointed out already, Stones doesn’t comment on Utd transfers unless it’s something that is some way down the line. We've clearly briefed him.
 

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Both Dortmund and United's mouthpiece have said Dortmund will not budge from the price. What more do people want to believe that Dortmund wouldn't accept anything lower
Maguire, from 90m to 80m
Man United will have to pay £90m to sign Harry Maguire – report

Bissaka from 60m to 45m + 5m adds on
Crystal Palace slap £60m price tag on Wan-Bissaka to ward off Man Utd interest

Bruno from 80m euro to 55m euro plus adds on
Bruno Fernandes: Man Utd will not pay Sporting Lisbon's 80m euro asking price

We've seen this before. United will do lower plus adds on.
 
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Maguire, from 90m to 80m
Man United will have to pay £90m to sign Harry Maguire – report

Bissaka from 60m to 45m + 5m adds on
Crystal Palace slap £60m price tag on Wan-Bissaka to ward off Man Utd interest

Bruno from 80m euro to 55m euro plus adds on
Bruno Fernandes: Man Utd will not pay Sporting Lisbon's 80m euro asking price

We've seen this before. United will do lower plus adds on.
Can't believe people haven't noticed this. Stone is a club mouthpiece, he just gets briefed and says whatever we want to make us look better in these negotiations. Pattern is pretty clear ever time. He was saying there was no way we would sign Bruno about a week before it was completed, for far less than he said it would take as well.

This latest report makes me about 10x more confident Sancho is far more progressed than people realize. The press is always about 2-3 weeks behind these negotiations.
 

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Can't believe people haven't noticed this. Stone is a club mouthpiece, he just gets briefed and says whatever we want to make us look better in these negotiations. Pattern is pretty clear ever time. He was saying there was no way we would sign Bruno about a week before it was completed, for far less than he said it would take as well.

This latest report makes me about 10x more confident Sancho is far more progressed than people realize. The press is always about 2-3 weeks behind these negotiations.
Yeah, my bet would be that after season has concluded it wont be many days until «here we go».
 

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Just a feeling. Sometimes you know a transfer is going to work. Like when we signed Rooney, Ferdinand or Van Persie. It seemed right.

Something about Sancho screams to me that it’s not a fit. And I’ve only seen him play like 4-5 times, but he’s never blown me away.

I’d have liked Pulisic when we had the chance. He’s a United player in a Chelsea shirt
Explain?

A young English lad with flair who's one of the most skilled playmakers in the world at 20 years old ticks every box for a club like United to me on top of being mates with a lot of our players.

When someone is putting up Messi like numbers with 20 goals and 20 assists a season, I'm pretty convinced they'd make our young attack that much better
 

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Just a feeling. Sometimes you know a transfer is going to work. Like when we signed Rooney, Ferdinand or Van Persie. It seemed right.

Something about Sancho screams to me that it’s not a fit. And I’ve only seen him play like 4-5 times, but he’s never blown me away.

I’d have liked Pulisic when we had the chance. He’s a United player in a Chelsea shirt
How can you go through life( I mean football things only as I don't know you personally) and be pessimistic about things you should be excited about. Even if it doesn't work out, be excited for the moment because at the end of the day that's all you can do.
 

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Just a feeling. Sometimes you know a transfer is going to work. Like when we signed Rooney, Ferdinand or Van Persie. It seemed right.

Something about Sancho screams to me that it’s not a fit. And I’ve only seen him play like 4-5 times, but he’s never blown me away.

I’d have liked Pulisic when we had the chance. He’s a United player in a Chelsea shirt
Sancho benched Pulisic at Dortmund though.
 

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Even without Champions League qualification I believe we'll sign Sancho. The only knock on effect could be no Grealish or VdB which I'd be fine with.
 

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Greenwood in a few years, hopefully.
White text. But no, he will be an Elite centre forward, heaven forbid we shoehorn him into being a winger and ultimately less than he could have been. Mason will eventually compete with Martial imo not Sancho.
 
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