Javi Guerra - United most interested

[mazhar13]

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Manchester United have drawn up a plan to sign him in the summer. They have come to see him in the last few games and the player and VCF are aware of the interest.

The English are looking at 35-40M [Euros]. They know Valencia won't sell unless they make a big offer.

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VCF are calm because (at the cost of losing assets) they are not financially obliged to sell and are not negotiating in January for Javi.

Juventus have done the same scouting work as United, but they consider it almost impossible given VCF's demands.

So no wonder Javi said yesterday that "I'm staying until the end of the season at least.... If they don't throw me out" (as a joke). It's very difficult for him to leave in January.

By the summer things are starting to move, but United are moving knowing that if they come for Javi, they will have to pay good money.

I haven't been able to watch much of Javi Guerra this season, but from the little I saw of him last season, he seems to be a skillful playmaking central midfielder who's a decent attacking threat in the final third. He was playing a big part in Valencia's attacks as well, so he has what it takes to control the midfield. What makes him particularly appealing here is his size: he's 187 cm tall (6'2"), so he seems to be a ready-made McTominay replacement.

 

[horsechoker]

We're going to war!

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Another one where we are at risk of getting rinsed for a player of questionable quality.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

This is the type of signing I'd love us to make

 

[Ace of Spades]

We have plenty of talents from the academy in midfield, I would want to go for a bit more established player if we are going to lose some of the experienced players.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

This is the type of signing I'd love us to make

Why exactly though?

Of course he has potential but it’s a high fee for what he’s shown so far.

 

[DWelbz19]

https://fbref.com/en/players/3828f130/Javier-Guerra

Passing stats look a bit crap. How is his accuracy % so low if so few of his passes are 'progressive'?

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Why exactly though?

Players with ability we lack in our squad who no one else has noticed. At decent fees

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Sounds like a midfield warrior

 

[Skills]

https://fbref.com/en/players/3828f130/Javier-Guerra

Passing stats look a bit crap. How is his accuracy % so low if so few of his passes are 'progressive'?

10th percentile for passes attempted

 

[Loon]

It's funny, everyone expects our new recruitment team to hit bullseye every time and the people in this thread can't even agree!

 

[VP89]

It's funny, everyone expects our new recruitment team to hit bullseye every time and the people in this thread can't even agree!

Not every time. Even 50% would be great

 

[userman]

Been underwhelming the few times I’ve seen him. Might develop it but as of now I’d say he completely lack the intensity + physicality to make it in the PL, also often disappears in the games.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Players with ability we lack in our squad who no one else has noticed. At decent fees

And what abilities does he possess that we lack?

 

[Loon]

Not every time. Even 50% would be great

"50% of the time, every time."

 

[RedorDead21]

And what abilities does he possess that we lack?

And what abilities do we have??

 

[Offside]

Weird how people get castigated on here for being sceptical about possible signings. If someone wrote after every signing in the past 11 years that they’d be absolutely fecking shit they’d have a 95% strike rate. Don’t understand how muppets still survive.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

I don't care if it makes me sound like a broken record. Yes please. He might be great. I like shiny new toys at the club.

Edit: just found out that there's two Javi Guerra's. One is twenty and the other is 41. Without researching which one this is, because that would take too long, let's just say that he's 30 and we should stay well away from this one.

 

[Ali Dia]

He’s an FM legend at least

 

[USREDEVIL]

Is he a spanish Peter Crouch?

If so sign asap. I love peter crouch

 

[Giggsy13]

Likely only signed if Casemiro is sold, which is looking likely.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

And what abilities do we have??

Overly simplistic view but main strengths:

Casemiro - Ball winner
Mainoo - Press resistant
Eriksen - Progressive passing
Bruno - Creative threat
McTominay - Heart and goal threat
Mount - Positioning and pressing
Amrabat - A body
Hannibal - Energy

 

[AltiUn]

Players with ability we lack in our squad who no one else has noticed. At decent fees

Which Guerra does not possess ...

 

[JPRouve]

Overly simplistic view but main strengths:

Casemiro - Ball winner
Mainoo - Press resistant
Eriksen - Progressive passing
Bruno - Creative threat
McTominay - Heart and goal threat
Mount - Positioning and pressing
Amrabat - A body
Hannibal - Energy

McTominay has no heart and he isn't a goal threat. We are talking about a player that routinely jogs in transition and has scored 28 goals in 261 games played for United calling that a goal threat is a big overstatement..

 

[Nogho]

Overly simplistic view but main strengths:

Casemiro - Ball winner
Mainoo - Press resistant
Eriksen - Progressive passing
Bruno - Creative threat
McTominay - Heart and goal threat
Mount - Positioning and pressing
Amrabat - A body
Hannibal - Energy

Lovely - Shaped by the Moroccan cuisine

 

[BenitoSTARR]

McTominay has no heart and he isn't a goal threat. We are talking about a player that routinely jogs in transition and has scored 28 goals in 261 games played for United calling that a goal threat is a big overstatement..

Feck me for trying to respond with an overly simplistic view (which I stated).

Why is McTominay in this side?

 

[BenitoSTARR]

@Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber so what is he bringing that we lack?

Ball carrying I assume?

 

[pocco]

How's Joao Neves been this season at Benfica? He was the darling of the Caf last season, alongside Amrabat.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

@Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber so what is he bringing that we lack?

Ball carrying I assume?

He is a ball carrying high yield dribbler, is a goal threat and is young enough to be moulded into better as a squad player.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

How's Joao Neves been this season at Benfica? He was the darling of the Caf last season, alongside Amrabat.

Still balling at elite levels.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

He is a ball carrying high yield dribbler, is a goal threat and is young enough to be moulded into better as a squad player.

I agree.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Still don’t think he’s good enough.

 

[JPRouve]

Feck me for trying to respond with an overly simplistic view (which I stated).

Why is McTominay in this side?

He is a body like you stated for Amrabat. Goals and heart aren't things that you can count on when it comes to McTominay.

 

[USREDEVIL]

Feck me for trying to respond with an overly simplistic view (which I stated).

Why is McTominay in this side?

I think you got it spot on. Maybe he's not prolific but the only reason he's in the side is he can get into the box and potentially score.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

I think you got it spot on. Maybe he's not prolific but the only reason he's in the side is he can get into the box and potentially score.

Its also rather simplistic to look at his goal record at United and dismiss his goal threat as a player all together. As if he hasn't spent most of his United career pidgeon holed as a false defensive midfielder. What he has done for Scotland in his most natural role is what his actual goal threat is

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

Looks a bit like Kaka. Sign him up.

 

[JPRouve]

I think you got it spot on. Maybe he's not prolific but the only reason he's in the side is he can get into the box and potentially score.

If he isn't prolific then how is that a strength? For context Casemiro has 11 goals since he joined.

To me it's wild to suggest that McTominay strenght is scoring goals and heart when he actually provide neither with any sort of consistency and never had.

 

[USREDEVIL]

Its also rather simplistic to look at his goal record at United and dismiss his goal threat as a player all together. As if he hasn't spent most of his United career pidgeon holed as a false defensive midfielder. What he has done for Scotland in his most natural role is what his actual goal threat is

Good pointum chief.

 

[USREDEVIL]

If he isn't prolific then how is that a strength? For context Casemiro has 11 goals since he joined.

To me it's wild to suggest that McTominay strenght is scoring goals and heart when he actually provide neither with any sort of consistency and never had.

Again i did not say he was prolific. But that's kind of all he brings. Get me? If not then just press on.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

If he isn't prolific then how is that a strength? For context Casemiro has 11 goals since he joined.

To me it's wild to suggest that McTominay strenght is scoring goals and heart when he actually provide neither with any sort of consistency and never had.

I think you’re reading too much into 3 words given I’d clearly stated it’s an overly simplistic view of the player.

His role this season is to score goals and get into the box (paraphrasing Ten Hag here) or at the very least provide a box threat. It just is. He is also in the side because of the “energy” and “mentality” Ten Hags words not mine. Which I happen to interpret as a bit of heart. You can see he gives an enormous shit about the club = heart. It’s not much, he’s also not someone who is good enough to be a first team starter in a successful United side but I wasn’t debating that or making that point.

Whether he is good enough at that to be in the side was not even a remote consideration in such a brief post.