You did, which I ignored, as it's not an opinion I've stated.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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Unfortunately Corbyn's going to do the same with Labour's seat count next time round.
we have a shadow chancellor whos listed hobbies in who's who is
"generally fermenting (sic) the overthrow of capitalism"... I think thats the craziest one
I also didn't say it was your opinion.
I'd have thought he was pretty unelectable as PM unless the UK takes a big leap to the left. Plus even then people still might think he just isn't PM material?
He seems like someone who is bound to have limited popularity, which is a big problem in a popularity contest.
Okay.
If you think Katy Perry's contribution to turnip farming in North Yorkshire is criminally underrated, then more power to you.
brilliant. I do get his point now though, Corbyn is more Obi Wan than Han Solo, more Jesus than Thor, more Mr Miyagi than Chuck Norris, more Woody Allen than Tim Allen
Personally I don't understand those who claim he lacks charisma as his following clearly demonstrates otherwise. PMQ will certainly reveal all anyway.
Obi Wan was pretty charismatic in his own way.
I do get his point now though, Corbyn is more Obi Wan than Han Solo, more Jesus than Thor, more Mr Miyagi than Chuck Norris, more Woody Allen than Tim Allen
Personally I don't understand those who claim he lacks charisma as his following clearly demonstrates otherwise. PMQ will certainly reveal all anyway.
He did have a pretty strong aura but his presence became very see through.
You could say any ridiculous statement, my point still stands that in my opinion he's not a great leader, because it's my opinion. I'm not presenting it as a fact.
About as likely as you lot electing Trump
No other country would welcome you. They wouldn't dare risk their national security to do so.
I know. It was only the aura bit I had any interest in, though.
I think it's fractionally more likely than that. Simply because he is at least already leader of the opposition, and the Tories are surely more hated than the Democrats.
But neither are going to happen.
I see what you did there!!!
Why does it always seem Labour do their best not to get elected?
Corbyn has style and character, it's just not the style and character that people are used to. People are used to charming, forceful, self serving egotists rising to powerful positions because they are "strong leaders". People have been moaning about typical politicians for as long as I can remember - Corbyn is an actual human being. Let's see if people will wise up and see past the media's smear tactics. I have some faith, and if not then feck it people deserve the Tories.
Lack of aura.
Can anyone sum up his main policies please?
He wants to nationalise all your friends and family.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/the-suns-front-page-about-jeremy-corbyn-is-wrong-says-its-ow
You'd think that with all his barmy views and policies that they wouldn't have to resort to bending the truth so much eh?
The Sun’s Front Page About Jeremy Corbyn Is Wrong, Says Its Own Source
The Sun launched a fresh attack on Jeremy Corbyn on Tuesday, dubbing him a “hypocrite” who had only accepted a place on the Privy Council so Labour would keep receiving £6.2 million a year of public funds.
The Sun
The front page, the first produced by the paper’s new editor, Tony Gallagher, portrays Corbyn as a court jester and says he took a “humiliating personal climbdown … so he can get his hands on £6.2m of state cash”.
One constitutional expert, Richard Gordon QC, is quoted in the article:
A refusal would have triggered a constitutional crisis and jeopardised £6.2m of annual funding, it is claimed.
Expert lawyer Richard Gordon QC said “rejection of PC membership by Jeremy Corbyn could raise issues relating to the status of the official opposition”.
However, when contacted by BuzzFeed News, Gordon distanced himself from the story and said his quote had nothing to do with Short money, the term for the public funding opposition parties receive.
“My reasoning that refusal of a place [on the Privy Council] could (the word I allowed to be cited) raise constitutional issues was not related to Short money,” he wrote in an email (emphasis his). “It was based on the constitutional relationship between the monarchy and main political party as the official opposition.”
Instead, the issues Gordon said could be raised by a refusal to join the council related to the constitutional relationship between the opposition and the crown.
“However, I have little doubt that in the longer term and in practice that relationship could be changed,” he continued, “which was why in the phrase I allowed to be quoted I suggested that the issues if they arose would be ‘short-term’.”
In practice, such issues will not arise as Corbyn yesterday accepted a place on the council. He is believed to have done so to more easily receive briefings on security issues.
No other experts are quoted in The Sun’s story to support its front-page claim.
Jeremy Corbyn outside Labour HQ yesterday. Justin Tallis / AFP / Getty Images
In reality, Short money, named after the MP who introduced it, is not dependent on a party leader having a place on the Privy Council.
It is received by all parties who are not currently in government, but who have accepted their seats in parliament. For this reason, Sinn Féin does not receive the funding, as its MPs will not say the oath of allegiance to the Queen required to take up their seats – though the party receives other public funding.
As Corbyn first took up his parliamentary seat in 1983, he first said this oath of allegiance 32 years ago.
The money is used to fund research support for frontbench staff, and to support party whip offices, used to maintain party discipline.
The funding is based on a formula relating to the number of seats won by each opposition party, and the number of votes each received, with some additional funding for the leader of the opposition.
In a statement on Tuesday lunchtime, The Sun stood by its story.
“Our story asserted that there would have been a constitutional crisis in the event that Jeremy Corbyn had refused to be a member of the Privy Council. This was confirmed by a QC, who we quoted accurately,” said a spokesperson.
“If he had refused to be a Privy Councillor, Corbyn would have been unable to be a fully serving Leader of Her Majesty’s Most Loyal Opposition. There would have been a huge debate about his ability to carry out the job, and the funding allocated to both his Office and his Party would have been legitimately brought into question.
“The story stands.”
You'd think that with all his barmy views and policies that they wouldn't have to resort to bending the truth so much eh?
Seems Corbyn has gotten a bit of flak from certain media outlets for not singing the national anthem at this Battle of Britain memorial: a perfectly acceptable decision since he's a republican. Of course, had he gone ahead and sang the anthem, he'd have no doubt been criticised for selling out or not really meaning it.
These clowns and their stories are going to drive many people into supporting him.
It really is bottom of the barrel stuff. Yesterday the discussion was about what colour of poppy he would wear.
...Are a good thing?
These lefties trying to force allotments on us. Glad the BBC has revealed the dark truth about Corbyn's passion for people having the option to grow their own veg.
Allotments are great!
Still many years off being leader at election time and although still FPTP there are more parties to vote fore here rather than just republicans or Democrats
Hopefully 10/1 is a realistic chance of either and 100/1 a fair assessment of both happening
I'm biased, but other than that Minister for Jews thing (which never actually happened), what has Corbyn done wrong so far?
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So many people are insisting it's going to be the end of Labour it's almost inevitable he's going to win the next election by a landslide.
His rather rambling speech to the TUC today, during which he forgot whole sections that had been pre-briefed to the media?
People can listen to it in full here :: https://audioboom.com/boos/3575961-jeremy-corbyn-s-full-address-to-the-tuc
Who the hell cares?
And jesus, people preferring slick, media savvy, 'dominant male' typecasts over someone who actually believes what he says. Says it all. I mean I get the point if you think he needs to inauthentic to be electable, like all other fecking politicians, but even that point still is indicative of modern politics. God I hate the media.
McDonnell.
Apparently all the papers are going with the not singing the national anthem pic tomorrow, which is a genuinely ridiculous thing to get worked up about. It's a shit anthem, should be changed.
I like the tune.The Sunday Mirror columnist on Sky's paper review was very scathing of him just few moments ago. She accused him of standing there like a "sulky teenager", drawing attention to himself when the occasion called for better.
What has it do with the media if Corbyn's speech was poorly written and came across in a disjointed manner? Whether you like it or not, the competent delivery of one's message is important.
He's been in the job 2 days. The media's hounding over every little thing would be frustrating if it wasn't so predictable. The not singing bit is case in point. the woman on newsnight basically saying he should not be authentic to win. Maybe the public is sick of this false politics, but then again judging by some people in this thread perhaps not.
You need to pull yourself together.
I'm as critical of Corbyn as anyone, but I very much doubt he looks for attention at all in that way. I'd say it's more the opposite and he's unprepared for there to be cameras and journos at absolutely everything you go to, analysing the tiniest thing. Granted, if he carries on with it then it might start getting a bit awkward, given that if you want to be PM you need to have a working relationship with the Queen/monarch and there is (alas) no republican sentiment in the country at all, but it's just not a big deal at this stage. Still, it's PMQs tomorrow so it'll be quickly forgotten. My prediction for which is that Cameron will go straight in with the "hands up if you want the honourable member from Islington North to be the next Prime Minister".