Pogue Mahone
The caf's Camus.
Eh? Name one.When many on the forum thinks Ten Hag is as good as Pep, I'd say yes
Eh? Name one.When many on the forum thinks Ten Hag is as good as Pep, I'd say yes
Don’t think he’d ever accept interim and doubt we’d ever go for that. He’d ruin Garnachos progressIf we lose to Wolves tomorrow, get ready for the Jose interim stories to start.
Why do people keep saying this?!? I feel like I’ve gone through the looking glass here. WTF? Who cares?! They’ve all been shite. Being the best out of a bunch of shite managers is not a reason to hire him!!He did alright at Roma - won them a European trophy (the only one in their history?) and got them to a final which he lost on PK. Given Roma's budget and the forced sales to avoid FFP I think it's a respectable record.
I don't like his brand of football, but can't argue with the results. And while he hasn't been good enough for United, he's been the best manager post Fergie results-wise.
Didn't need him first time around either.Please no, the club surely doesn't need him again.
He’d bite Sir Jim’s hand off for an interim. Can’t see him at a top club again now, so expensive and volatile.Don’t think he’d ever accept interim and doubt we’d ever go for that. He’d ruin Garnachos progress
Relax, I wasn't leading the charge for his coronation. Just laying out the landscape, that's all.Why do people keep saying this?!? I feel like I’ve gone through the looking glass here. WTF? Who cares?! They’ve all been shite. Being the best out of a bunch of shite managers is not a reason to hire him!!
There’s been a bunch of people making the same claim. I just find it so strange. Who cares where he sits relative to other failures? All we know for a fact is that he also failed. That’s all that matters.Relax, I wasn't leading the charge for his coronation. Just laying out the landscape, that's all.
Probably have this side playing well.I want Moyesie back … Fred the Red. Phelan. Get the old band back together.
Really wasn't as bad as you say. You've predictably over exagerrated his low moments and forget how up and down Ole was whilst actually not having won anything in the process and having a lot more time.You have a very short memory. It was most definitely with shit football. We had a brief period of time before he coached out LvG’ s passing team where we looked like a side who could keep the ball and also attack when necessary, after that it was pure Jose attrition-ball. I’d sooner take LvG back than that “Sevilla are a better club that United” arsewipe, feck no.
Same. Anyone who thinks this would be a good idea needs their head examining.I would pack it in. This would be one of the very few things that would make me actively stop watching.
It depends on what you're after. Some people are hunting for crumbs of progress others are fantasizing about stumbling upon the next Fergie...There’s been a bunch of people making the same claim. I just find it so strange. Who cares where he sits relative to other failures? All we know for a fact is that he also failed. That’s all that matters.
There were posters arguing about it in the Ten Hag thread yesterday. @Chumpsbechumps was one of them.Who thinks Ten Hag is as good as Pep? Name names.
Moyes is the only one of our former managers still managing at a high level…Probably have this side playing well.
I refuse to believe anyone actually believes ETH is as good as Pep. Surely a misunderstanding.There were posters arguing about it in the Ten Hag thread yesterday. @Chumpsbechumps was one of them.
There were posters arguing about it in the Ten Hag thread yesterday. @Chumpsbechumps was one of them.
Erm, reads to me like he said Pep is inflated because he hasn't taken a real challenge without a chequebook.
A whole world of difference between Ajax and Sevilla.Ole was disaster. Not just because of lack results. He set up casual mentality which stuck in and can't go away.
Also, this rewriting history about his football is becoming laughable. Except first few months his football was awful. Parking the bus and waiting on counter attack. Even Jose didn't do that (except in few bigger games). Failed Cardiff manager did it every week.
Biggest difference between him and Jose were in EL finals. While Jose prepared team perfectly for Ajax game and studied every single detail, remember what Ole did?
"We didn't prepare specially for Villareal. We are Man Utd and we play our style. I told players to enjoy themselves". What a plonker
I’m not defending Ole, he was shit too.Really wasn't as bad as you say. You've predictably over exagerrated his low moments and forget how up and down Ole was whilst actually not having won anything in the process and having a lot more time.
So you don't like his managerial style. It's not relevant to today's game as much as it was. My opinion isn't as extreme as yours but it's still very detached to the point I was making.I’m not defending Ole, he was shit too.
I’ve jumped on to the caf to see if we have signed any players on deadline day as I’ve been busy at work all day and this fecking thread is top of the list.
I’m just genuinely stunned that anybody can have an opinion other than “feck no”.
You’ve clearly exorcised his whole “rest defence” football style and his shitting on the club as well as the players from your mind.
I agree our players are largely shite, but feck hiring a manager who’ll throw the whole fecking club under the bus to protect his own ego. Especially if he’s serving up shitty two banks of four football whilst doing it.
Don’t think anyone could get this side playing well. We’ve got a mixture of players who aren’t good enough with players who have bad attitude and that isn’t a good combination. Toxic dressing room. Players doing what the hell they want off the pitch which gives the club bad headlines.Probably have this side playing well.
Are you stupid ?There were posters arguing about it in the Ten Hag thread yesterday. @Chumpsbechumps was one of them.
Thank you, that was exactly my point…Erm, reads to me like he said Pep is inflated because he hasn't taken a real challenge without a chequebook.
Don't think he said Pep isn't as good as Ten Hag
Our EL win under Jose was one of the worst games of football I've ever seen. We did nothing but kick the ball into the air all night to make the game as messy as possible.Ole was disaster. Not just because of lack results. He set up casual mentality which stuck in and can't go away.
Also, this rewriting history about his football is becoming laughable. Except first few months his football was awful. Parking the bus and waiting on counter attack. Even Jose didn't do that (except in few bigger games). Failed Cardiff manager did it every week.
Biggest difference between him and Jose were in EL finals. While Jose prepared team perfectly for Ajax game and studied every single detail, remember what Ole did?
"We didn't prepare specially for Villareal. We are Man Utd and we play our style. I told players to enjoy themselves". What a plonker
But have we clarified that no one said that ETH is better than Pep?So we've clarified that no one said that ETH is as good as Pep. Thank goodness for that.
Gotta love some Caf hyperbole though.
If Jose (2 trophies) is the virus, what the feck does that say for the others?Jose can feck off. He was always the number 1 virus.
There'll have to be a VAR check on that.But have we clarified that no one said that ETH is better than Pep?
He's got no shot at the Old Trafford job, mate. I don't know why Pogue is all worked up, even though he's got the best managerial record post-Fergie.Does Jose think he can still chose whatever job he wants?
Precisely. He dropped off a cliff the season Rui left the club. I think he was genuinely a balancing and calming influence on Jose, and with him around Jose chose to go nuclear too often - here and at Spurs.He’s never been the same without Rui Faria as his assistant.
This forum never ceases to amaze.The feck are people on wanting him back?
Absolutely hilarious the state of this place. Fecking idiotsThis forum never ceases to amaze.
I didn't think it could get dumber than some of what churns up on here every week but this thread has actually done it
Do people just have no memory at all? Or they think that because what we're doing now hasn't worked, trying something else that we already tried and also didn't work somehow becomes a good idea? Like if you fail your driving test by driving on the wrong side of the road, and then fail your next test because you forgot the difference between red and green, the next time you take the test you should try driving on the wrong side of the road again?
We were quite good under Ten Hag for a fair chunk of last season and won a trophy. Maybe we should sack Ten Hag and then hire Ten Hag to replace him?