Apart from a Lewandowski I can't think of any at all. Their club seems to be a pretty poor stepping stone.
Jude Bellingham | Confirmed Borussia Dortmund player
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What are you talking about? You've got players like Can, Hummels and Witsel who wouldn't get anywhere near our first 11. They are good players but lets be real about it. Fred, Maguire and Pogba are better that those 3 and have age on their side too.
You are either on the wind up or your just not very clever.
I just threw the £90m out there. The truth is he could flop and end up somewhere else, Or be a worldy and go for £140m.
As for your Ole statement, what does that even mean? Who knows why he might snub us for bvb. You sound like you think that Ole managing us would turn young players away? How do you know? Why would you suggest I'm missing the point when you dont know any more than me?
Your post is a strange reply to a very flippant comment I made about us buying him in the future.
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Or their really average league
Yeah, it's weird that, despite their whole raison d'etre being the signing and inevitable selling of promising players, they get all prissy when it happens.
It's almost like they believe they have another purpose.
That too..
I joined because the football forum section is very nice and interesting. I like to know what people in other countries think and leave my filter bubble. Never had any particular interest in United, to be honest but that is starting to change since I'm posting here. I try to stay away from most United topics, though, because if you're not enthusiastic as an "outsider" people in here get salty quite quickly.
Jesus, what the hell?
I'd be cheering if he joins United because that would mean he won't join Bayern. I also prefer you over Chelsea Juve and the likes. just because I'd prefer Madrid and Barca for him over you doesn't mean I am "beyond bemused" if he joins you guys.I am not overly gutted about this one,was more annoyed with Haaland though especially with Ole connection. Also a little frustrated Chelsea beat us to Werner too.
We probably will go back for him in a few years after he has proved himself in Germany,really depends who is in charge of the club at that time.
We probably will go back for him in a few years after he has proved himself in Germany,really depends who is in charge of the club at that time.
Set of cnuts are Dortmind, i use to root for them too but feck em.
Feeder club cnuts.
Go Bayern!
Yeah, because I think Rashford is not as good as Sancho and don't rate Pogba (I wrote you a whole book of reasons why that is the case), I have to be a wum. Jesus, you're so incredibly close minded and deluded, it's unreal. You could almost be a Bayern fan.
I didn't ever remember the results, by the way, that's how much I care about stuff like that. But thanks for reminding, I guess?
Not everybody likes to indulge in petty tribalism cranked up so much, that arguments are seemingly only valid when you're part of the right team.
What I've seen here on reactions so far, doesnt really fit the term "criticism". Well, except if you count "selling club", "myth of being good place for youngsters", or, "OuR rEpUtAtIoN rEGaRdInG tALeNt iS sO sUpErIor" as "criticisms".
I'd rather say, there's been a lot of butt hurt over being snubbed a second time in 6 months going around here, on top of the mounting displeasure towards stubborn Dortmund and their unwillingness to sell a certain player for what caf experts deem reasonable.
Now you've (not just you as the poster quoted)conjured up the resident BVB Troll, and use that to fuel your pre-conceived notion even further. Well, have fun...
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Most of the clubs are like that, they pick up something random on twitter where people saying something bad about their league and then replay with a dig at premier league or the club that guy is supporting. fecking hell, they are so desperate for attention.
Yea, so I struggle to understand their lure. Even the two we got never really did anything of note, although I used to really like Shinji.
Hopefully Jadon changes this, if we get him that is.
Anyone who comes on a United forum, views our history through the wrong end of the telescope and then proves they've not even been paying attention to the current side probably deserves to be corrected, don't you think?
Spread polemics, get polemics in return...
Very much spot on.
Other than his age, I don't see anything special with this lad.
I think he (@Zehner that is - not the troll, whose nonsense everyone somehow happily laps up) was just given perspective on how random people who don't follow things closely might see things. And I tend to agree. As far as the broad perception (with a touch of ignorance) goes all the good SAF did for young players is history, they aren't aware or care how many squad players are from the academy or how many players made it to the likes of Everton or Burnley, they only have superficial knowledge so they are only aware of perhaps Martial (who lets be honest has not lived up to the "most expensive teenager in the world" price tag) and Rashford who may or may not have his true breakthrough season this year.
The amount of players they help develop that end up being failures is pretty high. So I'm not sure how anyone can say otherwise when a door mat club like BvB doesn't have a good record at all in this regard.Yea, so I struggle to understand their lure. Even the two we got never really did anything of note, although I used to really like Shinji.
Hopefully Jadon changes this, if we get him that is.
Sancho was a youngster at Man City that wanted to join United just before he departed City. But City wasn't gonna allow him to join us so he reluctantly joined BVB as per the OP. Even that transfer is spun by one particular BVB fan like it was Sancho's preference to join BVB rather than come to United which is false per the Journos closely associated to both United and City.
Exactly.
And this is a similar case to Jude. He knows he's not currently going to get much time here so best to go to the German league and get some good experience and come when someone like Matic or Fred about to leave.
Are you really trying to shift the blame on the selling club here? You saying it's on Dortmund when players regress after their move?
Brain says let him go to Dortmund to develop faster than in any other club and the gut feeling says he'll be ours this year or in 3/4 seasons anyway.
He’ll be back in shop window within 2 years either way.
Yes, agree with all of that, and the Haaland release clause (if true, is it verified) would speak very clearly to the importance of that aspect.
I like that we are looking at the absolute top class youth in the world like we did with Ronaldo, Rooney, Anderson and Nani. They don’t always become a Rooney, and sometimes an Anderson, but on the total I think it’s a more likely bet than going for ten lower class talents, letting them scrap for game time (the likes of Obertan).
Then again, it makes more sense to splash millions on Haaland and Bellingham when we do have a lot of established and seasond top players at the club, and when we don’t have players like Greenwood and Mejbri already at the club in similar age and position.
At this point, I would rather overspend on the best RW we can Possibly get.
He'll slot right in, the Bundesliga isn't much better than the Championship anyway.
We have somebody in Mejbri who looks just as (if not more) talented than Bellingham anyway, just not as physically mature.
While signing him would have been great I don't feel a great sense of loss either - we shall see how he does in Germany.
While signing him would have been great I don't feel a great sense of loss either - we shall see how he does in Germany.
Yeah, that’s what’s happening here. We’re all so “butt hurt” about losing out on transfer deals. Not the deliberately obtuse postings of Bundesliga fans goading posters and then feigning innocence when called out on it.
I have a lot of faith in Mejbri and believe he will be good. But to diminish Bellingham isn't fair on him. Championship is a lot harder than U18's.
Polemics? Hardly. Talk nonsense expect to be corrected.
It's amazing to see how your perception is able to filter out the goading of your fan mates...
Then I’d say the people on “the streets” knowledge about football is pretty poor. Rashford, McTominay, Greenwood, Martial, Pogba are just a few that have been brought through the youth system and have been scouted that are in the team right now, getting regular first team football, playing at the highest level.
I'm saying a pattern is starting to emerge now that should be noted.Are you really trying to shift the blame on the selling club here? You saying it's on Dortmund when players regress after their move?
TBF to them 19 out of 20 clubs in that league are feeder clubs, and I'm a big fan of the BL.
Nonsense like "Dortmund making great players a myth anyway"?
How about you elaborate on your claim, instead of looking for "patterns"?
I'm not diminishing Bellingham at all. I'm just saying we have another superbly gifted talent that we have at the club who we all have to look forward to.
And as far as Bellingham playing the number of games he did for Birmingham's first team was due to Birmingham City covering all angles regarding a compensation fee. Which was reported by Neil Moxley who is probably along with two other journos the most trustworthy journo for the club.
How about you prove me wrong?
A minor exaggeration compared to some of the absolute uninformed guff being spouted by some of the German posters.
What's with the Bundesliga defence corps uniting to defend little old Dortmund anyway? Is it a big brotherly concern for your feeder club?
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