edcunited1878
Full Member
So how did Mancini and Pellegrini win the PL with City then get binned off within a handful of years within each other?Pages and pages and nobody has outlined that, for a manager on the up, who is head-hunted, the world is their oyster and they can outline their terms and have them agreed to, or simply say no?
Without assurances met, the inquiry doesn't go much further than the opener.
re. Woodward and the board, they are not intentionally this incompetent; they have let coaches come in and do what they want, which was the beginnings of our disastrous post-Fergie era since Moyes gutted a title-winning backroom staff! From man to man, they've had carte blanche to switch the squad (hence LVG's massive in-out phase) and only became weary (and wary) of Jose when he started playing silly buggers.
Fact is, they need guidance from an authoritative figure, and if that figurehead brought success and praise, he'd get even more freedoms along the way. A confident manager with a clear vision, plan and execution would have a free-for-all here with far more leeway than at any other top club in the world. The guillotine only drops when the situation is unsalvageable here, which many seem to be forgetting.
The problem, then, is that these all-conquering managers of yore who could come into a club and essentially take over with their sheer charisma and force of personality, are very, very few and far between. If Nagelsmann, or whoever else, is cut from that kind of cloth, this is - still - the perfect club to launch themselves into super-stardom with, and Lord knows, we are absolutely desperate for a saviour who ends this rotten post-Fergie era once and for all.
If we do make contact, and Nagelsmann has the stones from the outset to demand what he wants, he'll get it; ours is a board to be led, they are not big, bad shot-callers or a boardroom with a cunning master plan; they're just clueless and unable to tell an arse from an elbow until told.
The saviour isn't a Russian roulette of managerial merry-go-round. It's a system that has to be aligned and functional from top to bottom independent of who the first team manager is.
Was LVG and Jose not authoritative and respected figures who brought trophies to United? A clear vision, plan and execution isn't done in a year. It's done over a period of time, i.e. more than a few years, especially as it relates to United right now. Mancini and Pellegrini were recipients of a football brain trust formerly of Barcelona and a blank check....every single year. Then came Pep who elevated the team, which was already elevated to begin with.
Nagelsmann or whoever can demand whatever they want, but it's already been shown that Woodward isn't afraid to renegade on his own words/actions. LVG 3 year contract, binned after year 2. Jose given a contract extension, binned shortly thereafter. United will not hired a full time manager until a director of football is hired, Ole given full time position and no director of football was hired.
United have to be a self-sustaining football club where manager and player ins and outs do not cause a crater like crash in performance.
I think it's extremely naive to say that one manager will come into town and turn everything around in short order at United. There must be long-term plan and vision that can sustain the ins and outs of managers, coaches and players, but that cannot start until you get the quality players and staff that allow you to grow and branch out from.