Just for fun, if Bruno & others go, predict United's lineup next season.

UnitedSofa

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With the likelihood of Bruno being sold along with Garnacho, Rashford, Antony and Sancho we will have a substantial amount of money to put back into the squad.

Bruno £80M (I would like £100m but the fees are reported as less, hopefully we can meet at £90M)
Garnacho £60M
Antony £32.5M
Sancho £25M
+ 40M remaining after the Cunha sale from the £100M non-sale budget.
= £337.5M
This isn't really a thread to get into the weeds about how good INEOS are at selling players and what not, it's simply a bit of fun.

Onana

De Ligt
Yoro
Heaven

Amad
Ederson
Hjulmand
Dorgu

Mbeumo
Gyokeres
Cunha

If we sell our players who I deem as on the 'fringes' of being sold - i.e: if an offer comes in that's deemed acceptable

Onana -> Lammens
Højlund -> Ekitike
 
Giggsy13 said:
Not replacing Onana is laughable.
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While I agree we need to upgrade him, I just can’t see him being a high priority when we need goals, it’s why we’re focused on 2 10’s and a striker this window & then the rest will follow.
 
The Bruno thread is a bit depressing as he's a great player for us, a leader and for me he encompasses everything I see in the true Manchester United side I grew up with. It's a bit depressing to face the reality that he'll leave but I also accept the financial sense.

To make me and others feel better - I want to be optimistic on what his sale could bring. Many of us cant trust our decision makers to buy a tesco meal deal but surely they can't feck up a big kitty can they?

How would you fix our Squad with no Bruno, £200m, + further sales?

I'm going to just use euros to be consistent, so thtats about EUR 240m to start.

Outgoings
I'd expect Garna out for 50m EUR, and 'll assume both Antony and Rashford are loaned again.
If Sancho does go Chelsea we'd get 30m EUR,
Malacia's permanent signing to PSV should be a 10m EUR windfall.
40-50% Profits from Alvaro Fernandez to Real will be 15-20m EUR if I'm not mistaken.


Total budget 350m EUR
#10 role - Cunha locked (75m EUR)
#10 role - Mbuemo - (70m EUR)
#9 role - Osimhen / Gyokores (70m EUR)
# 8 B2B - Ederson or equivalent? (50m EUR)
#6 Holding - Wharton (80m EUR)

Holes for me still at LWB and GK but I accept we wont recruit there. Bonus if Onana fecks off and we can invest in a GK.
 
Yep this is bang on and what I've been saying ever since Rumors of Bruno to Saudi surfaced. Mostly aligned with the profiles and the list too. I just worry a bit about how much we have to pay for these guys because everyone will know we have the cash.

Ederson for example, there was a report where they were asking for 75M EUR recently.
Wharton they may demand Rice like numbers to see how much they can get. Could potentially go up to 100M.
 
UnitedSofa said:
While I agree we need to upgrade him, I just can’t see him being a high priority when we need goals, it’s why we’re focused on 2 10’s and a striker this window & then the rest will follow.
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Even if we get goals next season with an improved attack, Onana will make sure we concede to cancel it out so what is the point? Goalkeeper should be the number one priority for me, no doubt. Onana literally makes the whole defense nervous and we can not have that going into next season, he is that bad!

Seriously, I would rather have Chido Obi starting and a new goalkeeper (Joan Garcia preferably) next season than Gyokeres and Onana starting next season. In a perfect world, it would be Gyokeres and Joan Garcia starting for us next season.
 
VP89 said:
The Bruno thread is a bit depressing as he's a great player for us, a leader and for me he encompasses everything I see in the true Manchester United side I grew up with. It's a bit depressing to face the reality that he'll leave but I also accept the financial sense.

To make me and others feel better - I want to be optimistic on what his sale could bring. Many of us cant trust our decision makers to buy a tesco meal deal but surely they can't feck up a big kitty can they?

How would you fix our Squad with no Bruno, £200m, + further sales?

I'm going to just use euros to be consistent, so thtats about EUR 240m to start.

Outgoings
I'd expect Garna out for 50m EUR, and 'll assume both Antony and Rashford are loaned again.
If Sancho does go Chelsea we'd get 30m EUR,
Malacia's permanent signing to PSV should be a 10m EUR windfall.
40-50% Profits from Alvaro Fernandez to Real will be 15-20m EUR if I'm not mistaken.


Total budget 350m EUR
#10 role - Cunha locked (75m EUR)
#10 role - Mbuemo - (70m EUR)
#9 role - Osimhen / Gyokores (70m EUR)
# 8 B2B - Ederson or equivalent? (50m EUR)
#6 Holding - Wharton (80m EUR)

Holes for me still at LWB and GK but I accept we wont recruit there. Bonus if Onana fecks off and we can invest in a GK.
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I can’t really argue with this. As long as one or bith of those midfielders can take the ball on the half turn and play forwards most of the time.
 
Can't really argue with that. Maybe Wharton would cost more but still achievable. Those players would fit into a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1/variant if Amorim gets the sack.
 
I did this is another thread a little while ago and came up with the following:


If I could list an ideal and attainable 23-24 man squad for next season, it would look something like this:

GK - Garcia
GK - Bayindir
GK - Vitek
CB - Mazraoui
CB - Yoro
CB - De Ligt
CB - Maguire
CB - Heaven
CB - Branthwaite
CM - Casemiro
CM - Ederson
CM - Ugarte
CM - Mainoo
CM - Yashari
RWB - Amad
RWB - Dalot
LWB - Dorgu
LWB - New Signing (can’t think of a name)
AM - Cunha
AM - Mbeumo
AM - Mount
AM - Cherki
CF - Zirkzee
CF - Gyokeres

Additional squad roles would be given to academy products like Collyer, Kukonki, Amass, Fredricson, Mantato, Fletcher, Moorhouse, Obi, amongst others.

Players in: Garcia (21m), Branthwaite (~65m), Ederson (50m), Yashari (20m), LWB (20m), Cunha (62.5m), Mbeumo (50m), Cherki (27.5m), Gyokeres (54m). - 370m of which I’d estimate 330m guaranteed and 40m in variables (add ons).

Players out: Onana (30m), Heaton (0), Evans (0), Martinez (25m), Lindelof (0), Shaw (10m), Eriksen (0), Bruno (80m), Garnacho (60m), Malacia (6m), Rashford (40m), Antony (38m), Sancho (25m), Hojlund (35m), Gore (1m), Wheatley (1m) - 351m, plus potentially another 30m in variables. Of that 350m, approximately 115m is going to be eaten up by remaining book value on their amortised acquisition. Giving a true sale number of only 235. However that still leaves us with a net spend of approximately 100m, which is our rumoured budget.

But then…..

Of all the outgoing players, the wages removed from the books would be more or less 2.055m per week or 106.7m per season. The incomings would add approximately 980,000 p/wk or 51m per year - using the most widely reported estimations of their wage demands. Given us a net savings of 55m per season in wages.

Even if you inflate their numbers significantly and add in improved contracts for other players, and took the number to 65m per season - which is an extra 275k per week spend - you’re still making a net savings of 40m+ per season with that squad.

Yes the numbers can be off somewhat, and players like Martinez with his injury are tough to shift. Maybe some of the fees don’t hit what one hopes, but likewise maybe some players like Bruno and Garnacho go for more, or some deals come in cheaper. Either way, it’s an approximate and not unrealistic blueprint of what you could spend and save on the squad and end up with a much better squad. More than anything it shows the staggering profligacy at play over the last few years. We have millions a week on our payroll of players who are completely surplus to requirements.
 
VP89 said:
How would you fix our Squad with no Bruno, £200m, + further sales?
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Go to the nearest casino -> find the roulette table -> put everything on red (except 100 quid for a good bottle of celebration/sorrow whisky).
 
VP89 said:
The Bruno thread is a bit depressing as he's a great player for us, a leader and for me he encompasses everything I see in the true Manchester United side I grew up with. It's a bit depressing to face the reality that he'll leave but I also accept the financial sense.

To make me and others feel better - I want to be optimistic on what his sale could bring. Many of us cant trust our decision makers to buy a tesco meal deal but surely they can't feck up a big kitty can they?

How would you fix our Squad with no Bruno, £200m, + further sales?

I'm going to just use euros to be consistent, so thtats about EUR 240m to start.

Outgoings
I'd expect Garna out for 50m EUR, and 'll assume both Antony and Rashford are loaned again.
If Sancho does go Chelsea we'd get 30m EUR,
Malacia's permanent signing to PSV should be a 10m EUR windfall.
40-50% Profits from Alvaro Fernandez to Real will be 15-20m EUR if I'm not mistaken.


Total budget 350m EUR
#10 role - Cunha locked (75m EUR)
#10 role - Mbuemo - (70m EUR)
#9 role - Osimhen / Gyokores (70m EUR)
# 8 B2B - Ederson or equivalent? (50m EUR)
#6 Holding - Wharton (80m EUR)

Holes for me still at LWB and GK but I accept we wont recruit there. Bonus if Onana fecks off and we can invest in a GK.
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People can complain all they want, but that’s a pretty fecking good team with a shit load of goal threat and huge upgrades in athleticism.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
People can complain all they want, but that’s a pretty fecking good team with a shit load of goal threat and huge upgrades in athleticism.
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If we won the Europa final we could in theory have done this and kept Bruno
 
VP89 said:
The Bruno thread is a bit depressing as he's a great player for us, a leader and for me he encompasses everything I see in the true Manchester United side I grew up with. It's a bit depressing to face the reality that he'll leave but I also accept the financial sense.

To make me and others feel better - I want to be optimistic on what his sale could bring. Many of us cant trust our decision makers to buy a tesco meal deal but surely they can't feck up a big kitty can they?

How would you fix our Squad with no Bruno, £200m, + further sales?

I'm going to just use euros to be consistent, so thtats about EUR 240m to start.

Outgoings
I'd expect Garna out for 50m EUR, and 'll assume both Antony and Rashford are loaned again.
If Sancho does go Chelsea we'd get 30m EUR,
Malacia's permanent signing to PSV should be a 10m EUR windfall.
40-50% Profits from Alvaro Fernandez to Real will be 15-20m EUR if I'm not mistaken.


Total budget 350m EUR
#10 role - Cunha locked (75m EUR)
#10 role - Mbuemo - (70m EUR)
#9 role - Osimhen / Gyokores (70m EUR)
# 8 B2B - Ederson or equivalent? (50m EUR)
#6 Holding - Wharton (80m EUR)

Holes for me still at LWB and GK but I accept we wont recruit there. Bonus if Onana fecks off and we can invest in a GK.
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Dream scenario (if we get the GK too). We should get this done. Will you call Ratcliffe?
 
VP89 said:
The Bruno thread is a bit depressing as he's a great player for us, a leader and for me he encompasses everything I see in the true Manchester United side I grew up with. It's a bit depressing to face the reality that he'll leave but I also accept the financial sense.

To make me and others feel better - I want to be optimistic on what his sale could bring. Many of us cant trust our decision makers to buy a tesco meal deal but surely they can't feck up a big kitty can they?

How would you fix our Squad with no Bruno, £200m, + further sales?

I'm going to just use euros to be consistent, so thtats about EUR 240m to start.

Outgoings
I'd expect Garna out for 50m EUR, and 'll assume both Antony and Rashford are loaned again.
If Sancho does go Chelsea we'd get 30m EUR,
Malacia's permanent signing to PSV should be a 10m EUR windfall.
40-50% Profits from Alvaro Fernandez to Real will be 15-20m EUR if I'm not mistaken.


Total budget 350m EUR
#10 role - Cunha locked (75m EUR)
#10 role - Mbuemo - (70m EUR)
#9 role - Osimhen / Gyokores (70m EUR)
# 8 B2B - Ederson or equivalent? (50m EUR)
#6 Holding - Wharton (80m EUR)

Holes for me still at LWB and GK but I accept we wont recruit there. Bonus if Onana fecks off and we can invest in a GK.
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This but add Angel Gomes (#6) and Walter Benítez (GK) on a free.
 
Our targets seem to be from mid-table Premier League clubs. With that in mind.

Flekken
Maz - Heaven - Maguire - Yoro - Shaw
Rogers - Ugarte
Mbuemo - Cunha
Mateta​
 
Predict right? Not wishlist?

I suspect that if we sell Bruno, every other player we go for becomes more expensive and I think we struggle to attract top signings to join a club who lost their only top player.

I would guess something like:

-------------------Onana
------Maz-------De Light----Martinez
Amad-----Ugarte-----Mainoo----Dorgu
-----------Mbeumo------Cunha
--------------------Hojlund
 
I posted a possible line up in a transfer thread a few days ago, but I've decided to rein in my expectations, as I am truly not sure what business we are going to do this summer.

Onana
Dalot - Mazroaui - De Ligt - Yoro - Dorgu
Mainoo - Ugarte
Amad - Cunha
Zirkzee
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Shaw possibly in at LCB, Yoro displacing Maz from RCB

*I am sure we will sign some more players but I just have no idea who! If we do, I'd hope they would be a ST, GK, CM, in that order, with another #10 if possible.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
Predict right? Not wishlist?

I suspect that if we sell Bruno, every other player we go for becomes more expensive and I think we struggle to attract top signings to join a club who lost their only top player.

I would guess something like:

-------------------Onana
------Maz-------De Light----Martinez
Amad-----Ugarte-----Mainoo----Dorgu
-----------Mbeumo------Cunha
--------------------Hojlund
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It would be extremely depressing if we start next season with Onana and Hojlund as starters.
 
Red Rash said:
It would be extremely depressing if we start next season with Onana and Hojlund as starters.
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100% Onana stays as first choice, but I think we'll massively struggle to attract a top level striker. I feel like it'll come down to the last days of the window and clubs will be trying to hugely fleece us for bog standard strikers and we'll refuse to be fleeced, leaving us with Hojlund.
 
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