I agree, more a comment on the inference
Omg, you virtually posted through the entire thread taking law on one side and opinion on the other. Stop posting as if you are some of paragon of unvarnished truth here bro.I agree, more a comment on the inference
Part of my agitation in this matter has been how some people are so disconnected from the facts and still have a strong opinion. Then rather than debating on the corrected facts they question your motivation or outright insult.
It's like debating Brexit.
I've just grown up having no problem reading right wing and left wing magazines because I feel it gives me a better picture of things. The same with tv/youtube/twitter etc. And no I don't watch fox news, I'm not an american.
This is the case in most threads.I agree, more a comment on the inference
Part of my agitation in this matter has been how some people are so disconnected from the facts and still have a strong opinion. Then rather than debating on the corrected facts they question your motivation or outright insult.
It's like debating Brexit.
I just don't see how reading both Right and Left Wing media would give you the impression that you are gaining a balanced insight, surely you are just gaining one extreme versus another.
It doesnt have to be extremes providing the content is reasonable.
Oh well, you didn't say that mate. I must be on the look out for reasonable Right and Left Wing content.
Yes. My point is that Wisconsin lacks the logical and common laws of other states. I still would have voted for the reckless charges myself but Wisconsin still lacks some laws he would have been charged with in other states.
It does because it speaks towards the question of provocation which is relevant. Some will only consider the 5 seconds before the shooting to determine self-defense while others will look at a longer time frame and consider the provocation factor. For Grosskreutz, he would also have a legit self-defense claim because Rittenhouse appeared to be pointing the AR-015 at him and reracking it.
Well going with the media narratives and social media narratives he's either a hero or a terrorist while imo he is neither of those things. Him flashing white power signs on a picture with the proud boys is enough for me beyond all the other stuff to distrust stuff like saying he support BLM and all that.
There may well be something to his claims that his (later fired) lawyers set that photo-op up, and that he didn't know who the Proud Boys were or that the OK sign has been appropriated by the alt-right, though the latter two seem less likely for someone who is engaged enough to grab his rifle to "protect businesses". But either way, the right is going to make him a hero. The BLM comment is easily dismissed by the alt-right as a "nudge nudge wink wink" comment, like how Q-anon supporters read everything Trump did as supporting Q.
Whichever lawyer they pick would have no option other than to drag themselves in the mud with the image flinging contest.
At least Richards and Chirafici are moderate Democrats and were smart enough to move away from the culture war aspect that was actually damaging their client's case and chances of a normal life once cleared.
You're being naive, nothing in US court is not about optics, with 12 jurors up for grabs.
the white power thing is a reach though. I have seen pictures of AOC and Obama doing the same thing. its a pretty standard hand gesture which I do sometimes. His own Lawyer has said during an interview with Cuomo, that conservative politicians trying to profit off his result should be ashamed as this case was not about a victory for them or white supremacists and that no one should be celebrating. The media narratives have been pathetic in this case for both sides and you shouldn't get sucked in.
fecker was at Mar-a-Lago last night. Can’t wait til we start seeing the media from that circus.
Its him doing it with proud boys that does it for. Context means everything. It's also mudra in Buddhism that stands for "excellent". Im open to the idea that Rittenhouse is a complex person, but he should have known what that signal he was sending.
Yeah. He does appear a bit of a helmet. I was watching his Lawyer have a discussion and he gives the impression his family are manipulating things a bit, and the lawyer had a "chat" with him kinda implying he was advising him to be careful. He is 17 years old
As @Gehrman pointed out, it's when he's doing it in the context of taking a photo with alt-right thugs like Proud Boys. Whether or not he knew what he was doing or was just being misled by his lawyers, it's clearly not comparable to AOC or Obama doing it.
Very much this. It wasn’t a quick gesture of point articulation, it was a staged photo. It’s difficult not to read negatively into it.
It’s almost like it’s a cultural thing.
If you do it with some Proud Boys, it won't be.
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In Texas, trespassing, threatening the guy at his home - yeah he will definitely walk.
Wasn't he threatening him with legal action?
I don't know, but the fact that he was on the shooter's property and wouldn't leave, even after a warning shot, suggests that this would be a classic "castle doctrine" case.
Sounds about right.
Just read that the shooter hasn't even been arrested despite the fact that this happened a while back.
And the fact that he basically was the reason someone was shot dead. Poor kid.
That clip is masturbatory fodder for wacko gun humpers.
Their dead father's widow has filed a petition for custody. Probably a wise move given who the step dad is.
Based on this thread that's completely fine because Texas laws allow it.
