List of the 30 biggest clubs (by France Football)

[Trizy]

France Football have compiled a list of the 30 biggest clubs on the planet. Judged over 10 factors.

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10 Factors:

1. Number of players in current squad to have won a World Cup
2. Continent level titles won (eg. Champions League)
3. Shirts sold per year.
4. Annual revenue.
5. Record transfers fee paid.
6. Average attendance.
7. Market value of current squad
8. Ballon d'Or trophies won since 1956
9. Social media following
10. Clubs with biggest mythical status.

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This is the final list.

Discuss.

 

[Moonred]

How did they measure the mythical status?

 

[Tommy]

Top 5 seems fair, but I'd personally nudge Juve up a spot (even if it's at our own expense).

In no world do I consider Chelsea/City bigger than Arsenal & AC Milan, though, and I really don't see the value in that first point (number of players to have won the World Cup in the squad).

 

[Trizy]

How did they measure the mythical status?

No idea. Top be fair to the list they got the top 6 right at least. As for City and PSG, they should be all the way down in 22nd and 23rd behind Celtic.

 

[dove]

Based on these 10 factors, it seems about right although it's weirdly missing domestic titles? Isn't that important?

 

[Revan]

Hard to disagree with the top 6. I think that Paris is too high, would have swapped it with Milan, maybe Inter is a bit too low too. Though on the other side, the Milan clubs are going the Ajax route of becoming not super relevant in grand scheme of things.

All things considering, it is a very good list.

 

[Trizy]

Top 5 seems fair, but I'd personally nudge Juve up a spot (even if it's at our own expense).

In no world do I consider Chelsea/City bigger than Arsenal & AC Milan, though, and I really don't see the value in that first point (number of players to have won the World Cup in the squad).

Fees, Squad value, World Cups.. it's by the French and seems to help PSG.

 

[coolredwine]

Clubs with biggest mythical status.

wut?

 

[dove]

No idea. Top be fair to the list they got the top 6 right at least. As for City and PSG, they should be all the way down in 22nd and 23rd behind Celtic.

Let's be real, they shouldn't You could argue that PSG should be behind Chelsea but seriously not Celtic?

 

[Lay]

Milan

Decent list.

 

[Trizy]

Let's be real, they shouldn't You could argue that PSG should be behind Chelsea but seriously not Celtic?

Celtic have won the CL (European cup) and are a historically big club. City and PSG have no history outside of the past 10 years. I'd argue Celtic have twice as many fans as both clubs too.

 

[Revan]

Top 5 seems fair, but I'd personally nudge Juve up a spot (even if it's at our own expense).

In no world do I consider Chelsea/City bigger than Arsenal & AC Milan, though, and I really don't see the value in that first point (number of players to have won the World Cup in the squad).

The first thing that came to my mind. However, it needs to be said that both Milan clubs have been total shit since 2010 (in case of Milan a couple of years earlier). They haven't been United after Fergie shit, they have been total shit, more like in the level of Italian Everton (with Serie A being weaker than EPL).

At some stage, Milan and Inter will need to not be considered as elite clubs, same as how Ajax is not considered anymore an elite club.

Chelsea is bigger than Arsenal nowadays. (Far) More trophies won in this century, better team, more attractive to players, a much bigger worldwide following. City probably not yet there, but it is very close.

 

[El Presidente]

Seems about right at the top. PSG are never 7th, though. They were founded less than 10 years ago. Also, Monaco? They don't even have an attendance. How is River Plate out of this? Seems pretty biased towards the French clubs but it's no surprise. Inter are pretty big club, too. You are always going to disagree with such kind of rankings but I'd say Top 6 is pretty spot on.

 

[cusmarr]

They try to mitigate past and present, that's why PSG is 7th.

 

[Revan]

Celtic have won the CL (European cup) and are a historically big club. City and PSG have no history outside of the past 10 years. I'd argue Celtic have twice as many fans as both clubs too.

Absolutely no chance that Celtic has more fans than City worldwide, not even close.

City are becoming a very big club, like it or not.

 

[Tommy]

Milan are on the up, though I believe.

You're right about Ajax, though. They're in the RO16 in the Champion's League, which is a pretty great achievement when you consider the financial discrepancy between the Eredivisie & the other top leagues. It's a shame, really...

 

[broccoli]

Laughs at no Porto in the top30. 2 UCL, 2ELs, 2 intercontinental cups, 1 supercup... Bigger than more than half of those clubs.

 

[Trizy]

Laughs at no Porto in the top30. 2 UCL, 2ELs, 2 intercontinental cups, 1 supercup... Bigger than more than half of those clubs.

Indeed, definitely on Benficas level of that list.

 

[Tommy]

Laughs at no Porto in the top30. 2 UCL, 2ELs, 2 intercontinental cups, 1 supercup... Bigger than more than half of those clubs.

Need more World Cup winners in the squad, clearly.

 

[Matt007a]

It's sad to see a great club like Milan have fallen so far. Historically they're a top 5 team for sure.

 

[Class of 63]

Am I the only person that can't see a list ?

 

[Tommy]

Am I the only person that can't see a list ?

I couldn't either. I just see {IMG} (with square brackets)

But if you right-click & "Copy Image Location" you should be able to see it.

 

[altodevil]

Amazing how far Lyon have fallen since the turn of this decade/PSG injection.

 

[Class of 63]

I couldn't either. I just see {IMG} (with square brackets)

But if you right-click & "Copy Image Location" you should be able to see it.

I don't even see that, it must be my browser

 

[Trizy]

Am I the only person that can't see a list ?

I couldn't either. I just see {IMG} (with square brackets)

But if you right-click & "Copy Image Location" you should be able to see it.

I've added the tweet in a spoiler to OP.

 

[flappyjay]

The first thing that came to my mind. However, it needs to be said that both Milan clubs have been total shit since 2010 (in case of Milan a couple of years earlier). They haven't been United after Fergie shit, they have been total shit, more like in the level of Italian Everton (with Serie A being weaker than EPL).

At some stage, Milan and Inter will need to not be considered as elite clubs, same as how Ajax is not considered anymore an elite club.

Chelsea is bigger than Arsenal nowadays. (Far) More trophies won in this century, better team, more attractive to players, a much bigger worldwide following. City probably not yet there, but it is very close.

Thank you. People seem to forget that with the availability of football to a worldwide base a team that's won most of its trophies in the last 15 years can speed past some of those historic clubs like celtic. Chelsea for instance have a big fan base in USA and Africa. If I am not wrong they have won more trophies than any other English side in the past 10 years or so

 

[Adebesi]

Top 5 seems fair, but I'd personally nudge Juve up a spot (even if it's at our own expense).

In no world do I consider Chelsea/City bigger than Arsenal & AC Milan, though, and I really don't see the value in that first point (number of players to have won the World Cup in the squad).

A way to push PSG up the list?

 

[shahzy]

Top 5 seems fair, but I'd personally nudge Juve up a spot (even if it's at our own expense).

In no world do I consider Chelsea/City bigger than Arsenal & AC Milan, though, and I really don't see the value in that first point (number of players to have won the World Cup in the squad).

Personally for what its worth, I think Pool are a bigger club than Juve.

 

[TheLiverBird]

5 of the Premier Leagues top 6 making the top 10

Overall I think the top half of the list is somewhat there abouts what I’d imagine, but it is crazy when you think of some of the Giants that have fallen, and fallen hard

 

[JPRouve]

Amazing how far Lyon have fallen since the turn of this decade/PSG injection.

Not really, Lyon haven't been a big club in french football history outside of the 2000s and they are only popular in Lyon.

 

[Class of 63]

I've added the tweet in a spoiler to OP.

Cheers, yeah noticed when I refreshed the page

 

[JPRouve]

Seems about right at the top. PSG are never 7th, though. They were founded less than 10 years ago. Also, Monaco? They don't even have an attendance. How is River Plate out of this? Seems pretty biased towards the French clubs but it's no surprise. Inter are pretty big club, too. You are always going to disagree with such kind of rankings but I'd say Top 6 is pretty spot on.

Where is that from?

 

[Massive Spanner]

Where is that from?

Maybe he pressed 1 instead of 5?

 

[Nickosaur]

No Porto seems a bit strange?

 

[Adisa]

List isn't too bad.

 

[crossy1686]

Agree largely with that list in the current climate, but I'd also say the top 4 have been that way for the last 10 years also.

 

[crossy1686]

Based on these 10 factors, it seems about right although it's weirdly missing domestic titles? Isn't that important?

Juventus have won 36 domestic titles. At what point do you decide the weight of the league in each country? It's easier to discount it, especially in one horse leagues where the title has little to no value in Europe.

 

[anant]

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For those asking about the mythical status computation

 

[anant]

Seems about right at the top. PSG are never 7th, though. They were founded less than 10 years ago. Also, Monaco? They don't even have an attendance. How is River Plate out of this? Seems pretty biased towards the French clubs but it's no surprise. Inter are pretty big club, too. You are always going to disagree with such kind of rankings but I'd say Top 6 is pretty spot on.

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[Class of 63]

Surprised that Sevilla haven't snook in there somewhere, a hat-trick of Europa League wins and a strong fan base.