Under what planet is it pretty clear to you he couldn't reach it?
He clearly could and should have but choose not too it would have hit him had he not slowed down
Maguire wasn't at fault for the goal
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Under what planet is it pretty clear to you he couldn't reach it?
He clearly could and should have but choose not too it would have hit him had he not slowed down
I think he could very clearly reach it and don't know how it has come to this where we're trying to completely absolve one person from taking blame for a team wide breakdown where everyone contributed.
I could easily say De gea didn't come out early because he thought he had a competent defender he expected to clear a straightforward cross coming within his reach at such a low speed. Everyone screwed up. Let's stop playing favourites. Hold everyone and especially the team captain accountable so this doesn't repeat itself
I like to use a simple, but effective, method for evaluating defenders and how they should react in certain situations. It’s called WWVD, or What Would Vidic Do?
He would have reached the deflection and smashed it into the stands. And he would have apologized to Dave.
Maguire has not reached the “All I want to do is fecking win” mentality that is required to be a world class defender. Not sure he ever will.
DDG is also at fault for this goal.
He would have reached the deflection and smashed it into the stands. And he would have apologized to Dave.
Maguire has not reached the “All I want to do is fecking win” mentality that is required to be a world class defender. Not sure he ever will.
DDG is also at fault for this goal.
We could call in the body language experts, of course.
An education in human behaviour has taught me that facial expressions, body language and outward reactions can hint about inner processes, perceptions and thoughts, however it’s not a precise science. You can look to me to be irritated, but may feel rather eager, calm, worrisome or disgusted inside. What you’re thinking, I couldn’t tell.When I look at the clip above, I would guess that Maguire may be angry, disappointed, shameful, fearful, surprised or guilty, maybe some, maybe all in succession. If angry, is he angry with himself, with DeGea or with Lady Luck, I couldn’t tell. If guilty, is he guilty because he know himself to have screwed up for his team, or because he feels responsibility for the defence beyond what he can actually influence? I wouldn’t presume to know.
Body language is the biggest giveaway to a person's emotions or inner thoughts, it's an instinctive thing and humans cannot help but show their emotions in their reactions or the way they carry themselves or move themselves.We could call in the body language experts, of course.
When I look at the clip above, I would guess that Maguire may be angry, disappointed, shameful, fearful, surprised or guilty, maybe some, maybe all in succession. If angry, is he angry with himself, with DeGea or with Lady Luck, I couldn’t tell. If guilty, is he guilty because he know himself to have screwed up for his team, or because he feels responsibility for the defence beyond what he can actually influence? I wouldn’t presume to know.
In this instance, It's clear to me that Maguire regrets his decision to leave the ball instantly.
The usual reaction to conceding a goal is either look around for blame, hands behind the head which shows disappointment, or hanging if the head.
Rarely do you see the hands cover the face, which is usually a sign of hiding, be it embarrassment or shame etc.
It is so obvious he deliberately pulled up and let the ball go past him. There is no defending that it really was disgraceful play. You can try and blame others before and after but he was the one who could and should have put thd ball out and chose not too.
He should not be in the team and he should never be captain of any team
If you have such adamant conceptions about emotional expression, I hope you are not using it professionally. While there are many signs that are clear to see, what they mean in regards to a persons outlook is almost never entirely clear from the outside. Human beings are too complex. It can give you hints or clues to follow up with questions, but is never conclusive on it’s own. Which is why it’s inadmissible as evidence in and of itself, and a therapist will not presume to know the motivational make up of a person based on emotional expressions alone.
There are almost always plentiful of very different states of inner affairs that may explain a given bodily expression. My backround on the subject is a specialist degree in Psychology on the subject.
What!? Ofcourse Maguire was mainly at fault for that goal. Even Goldbridge has said the same
We'll agree to differ on the subject.
But I'll point out that law enforcement,high profile businesses, world renowned leaders, Cult leaders, therapists, NPL students (I could go on) all use body language as a viable alternative to linguistics and a tool to decipher fact from fiction in certain scenarios.
I have dealt with high end software which tracks people's gait, body language etc designed for these purposes in mind.
Is it black and white? Course not, but body language is a gateway to what a human is feeling whether they try and hide it or not.
What? Even Mark "I claim to hate agendas but have a massive agenda against Harry" Goldbridge has blamed Maguire? I'm shocked
Yes, it is valuable, certainly, as a part of reading and understanding other people. For me, it’s a central lynchpin of my work. I still think it’s equally important recognizing the limitations, complexities and imprecicions of it. Particularily for you who make software about it that can be used - and misused.
I’ve had discussions with police who use it to scan the danger of situations, and the trustworthiness of witnesses. What separates the good from the less good investigators is that the good do not think they can know for certain if a persons lying or not by body language, they use it in conjunction with context knowledge to make better questions and better hypothesis to be tested, where the less experienced read a face and think they know enough already, and close their eyes and ears for other interpretations.
Ed: I want to point out I’m not writing to make a point anymore, but because the subject interests me a lot and I get eager when someone like yourself also takes an interest in it
It's a fascinating exploit, and I have no claim to know more than anyone about it, just merely happy to discuss something A bit deeper than oles tactics with someone!!Yes, it is valuable, certainly, as a part of reading and understanding other people. For me, it’s a central lynchpin of my work. I still think it’s equally important recognizing the limitations, complexities and imprecicions of it. Particularily for you who make software about it that can be used - and misused.
I’ve had discussions with police who use it to scan the danger of situations, and the trustworthiness of witnesses. What separates the good from the less good investigators is that the good do not think they can know for certain if a persons lying or not by body language, they use it in conjunction with context knowledge to make better questions and better hypothesis to be tested, where the less experienced read a face and think they know enough already, and close their eyes and ears for other interpretations.
Ed: I want to point out I’m not writing to make a point anymore, but because the subject interests me a lot and I get eager when someone like yourself also takes an interest in it
I'm fascinated by human exploits, body language is a huge interest of mine,
I'm glad people with an interest further than my comprehension can point me in the right direction.
The deeper we get the better!!
Its quite simple really. Would Maldini, Puyol, Rio, Ramos etc shy away from the ball like Maguire did? Its basics. You dont know whats behind you, you own the moment and hoof the ball. Its a mindset thing. More so as a captain. No excuses, he's 100% at fault.
I’m unsure of how you calculate persentages.